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Posted by jgeratic on Saturday, January 11, 2020 1:30 PM

Thank you Bish and Svenne.

This particular type of scout appears to have always been deployed in a mixture of vehicles within recce car regiments,  with both corps and divisional army units.  I think I've seen some within HQ of armour units as well.

Looking at the various box arts from Bronco, I think I do see a resemblance to Michael Caine.  I got mine on ebay (vendor dawngrocerystore), and same seller shows he still has at least 10 of these:

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Bronco-1-35-35009SP-Humber-MK-I-Scout-Car-AFV-Crew-Set/172175505821?hash=item281675b99d:g:tkYAAOSwdrRXGPF2

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Posted by Svenne Duva on Sunday, January 12, 2020 6:01 AM

Hi Jack,
I remember having some fit issues (probably self inflicted) so I went back to the instructions to check it out.

The firewall A26 is fitted to the main hull D on page 3. I found that in doing this I had pushed appart the sidewalls to be to wide to fit the hull roof E that is assembled on page 11 properly.
Lookig at reference pictures I decided that the panells should fit edge to edge with the exception of the lip over the door on the port side  and the minimal weld bead on the startboard side.
Check this page for reference (pictures from the WarWheels.net)
http://www.warwheels.net/humberscout2varga.html

I might have been wrong (yeah i know) but since the corrections I did at the time were quite laborius you might want to convince yourself.

With regards
Svenne

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Posted by Svenne Duva on Sunday, January 12, 2020 6:21 AM

Bish

Svenne, sorry, i think we were cross posting so i missed your post about the Staghound, now got you added. Out of interest, what Sea King kit are you getting?

Jack, really looking forward to that. I saw the kit a while back and thought it doesn't look like it is a WW2 vehicle, i really like the shape of it.

 



Hi Bish,
Initially I wanted to do the Hase #7456 but looking at the price tag that is only going to happen after the big lottery win next week...

Any suggestions wellcome, I wanted to do a Falkland kit.
I had just left the army myself bak in 82 (swedish military service) and could well imagine the horrors on everyone.

With regards
Svenne

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, January 12, 2020 6:53 AM

I just had a look, i do 72nd scale myself so not familiar with the kit. Thats an HAR. 3 and what you would need is an HC.4. I could not see one in that scale. I have the Cyber Hobby 72nd kit with Falklands markings, but its a bit confuseing. I have had to do quite a bit of research to find which to use for 82. I plan on doing a Falklands War GB in 21/22 to mark 40 years.

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Posted by jgeratic on Sunday, January 12, 2020 11:27 AM

Hello Svenne, thanks for the warning about the Humber Scout firewall section.  Have taken a look at the parts and tried some dry fitting.  The piece fit is not perfect, and notice a gap in one corner by the floor - so maybe the top on the same side of the firewall needs to be sanded down slightly.

The instructions are not the best illustrated either.  There is a lip along the interior hull sides to help align the piece in question, but they have you place the firewall right on the lip instead of behind it.

Have also looked at the hull roof.  Talk about fiddly, no anchor points and it just floats on top.  Hopefully the addition of front and back sections will provide some aid in that repect.

Also tried a little test comparison.  After scanning the firewall part, made another copy of the image (red coloured) and flipped it to compare the angle of the sides.  Seems one side is slightly of a different angle than the other:

regards,

Jack

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Posted by Gamera on Sunday, January 12, 2020 7:32 PM

Ohhhhhhh, love those armoured cars guys!!!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Real G on Monday, January 13, 2020 11:59 AM

Okay I started laying glue into the PIAT:

Fit is...lousy.  Most parts need a bit of trimming before they mate with their opposite halves, and even then I could not get a few seams to match up.  There are also lots of mold mismatch on parts, and lots of small bits of flash.  Nevertheless, it is coming together and should be finished soon(!!!).

I also started the Enfield rifle, which has all the same problems as the PIAT.  Pics to follow.

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Posted by Bish on Monday, January 13, 2020 2:41 PM

Despite the issues, the PIAT is looking very nice.

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Posted by Mopar Madness on Monday, January 13, 2020 7:33 PM

That's really cool G.  I had no idea Dragon made those. 

Chad

God, Family, Models...

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Posted by Real G on Tuesday, January 14, 2020 5:13 PM

Chad,

I think maybe DML made these for their 1/6 military figures, and just decided to sell them as assembly kits.  The moldings are rougher than their nice AFV kits, so even though they use slide molds on the parts, a lot of cleanup is needed.

Here is the Enfield rifle that came with the set.  I figured what the heck, just build the thing.

It comes with two magazines and a bunch of exposed clips for some reason.  Anyway, these kits are pretty simple, so I will try to get them done and finally have a GB completion under my belt.

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, January 15, 2020 11:32 AM

Real G: Those are cool. It's nice to see something a little different. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Mopar Madness on Thursday, January 16, 2020 5:10 PM

Howdy friends.  Subassemblies are done and base coats have been applied. Time to dirty this thing up!

Chad

God, Family, Models...

At the plate: 1/72 Revell He177 & 1/35 Tamiya Sdkfz 251

On deck: 1/35 Bronco LWS

In the hole: 1/144 Revell S-100

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Posted by Mopar Madness on Thursday, January 16, 2020 5:11 PM

You know G, I just saw somewhere online that Dragon just released a 1/6 Sherman. I think you need to buy that to go with all those weapons! 

Chad

God, Family, Models...

At the plate: 1/72 Revell He177 & 1/35 Tamiya Sdkfz 251

On deck: 1/35 Bronco LWS

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, January 17, 2020 7:45 AM

Chad: She looks fantastic! Looks like you've got some pre-shading there- I really like the results! 

Only issue is the side mirrors. Personally I think I'd leave them off till the end. If you can get the thing build and painted without knocking them off and losing them you're a better man (or orangutan) than I... Embarrassed

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Posted by Real G on Friday, January 17, 2020 12:01 PM

Chad,

That Saladin is looking good!  I had the old Tamiya kit, and it did NOT rate well, even back in 1980!

Funny you should mention a 1/6 scale Sherman - if DML did a Firefly VC...

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Posted by Bish on Friday, January 17, 2020 1:15 PM

Chad, that looks great with the paint and decals on. Nice work.

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Posted by Bish on Friday, January 17, 2020 1:16 PM

Nice tankie Real.

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Posted by keavdog on Sunday, January 19, 2020 5:23 AM

Okay - getting started on this one.  

 

Thanks,

John

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Posted by Mopar Madness on Sunday, January 19, 2020 8:55 AM

That's going to look neat John.  I love those Sioux's.

Chad

God, Family, Models...

At the plate: 1/72 Revell He177 & 1/35 Tamiya Sdkfz 251

On deck: 1/35 Bronco LWS

In the hole: 1/144 Revell S-100

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, January 19, 2020 9:06 AM

Look forward to seeing this John. I have just had a look and they do one in 72nd with UK markings, going to have to get one of those.

The Snatch is coming on slowly but its now ready to get some primer on. I am doing all of the inside before putting it all togther and then i will paint the outside. Its a pity there is no equipment to go on the inside. The mounting plate behind the front seats should hold ECM equipment (not a radio as the instructions say). I might try and scratch build something as the type of equipment that fitted there was just a metal box with a couple of switches.

The mesh over the rear lights is rather nice. It is attached to the plate that glues to the vehicle and can be folded to shape but left open so the lights can be added later. No need for masking.

I have fitted the mesh on the side doors, the glass goes in from the inside and can be fitted later.

And the same goes for the front wingscreen, the mesh is movable which is handy.

Now time to prime and try and mix up some paint to get the right shade of green.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

On the bench: Italeri 1/72nd Bell 212/MPM 1/72nd Bf 109G-12

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Posted by Mopar Madness on Sunday, January 19, 2020 9:14 AM

That's awesome Bish. Did you have any experience with these when you were serving? 

Chad

God, Family, Models...

At the plate: 1/72 Revell He177 & 1/35 Tamiya Sdkfz 251

On deck: 1/35 Bronco LWS

In the hole: 1/144 Revell S-100

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, January 19, 2020 9:19 AM

Thanks Chad. Yes, i was serving in Londonderry in 1992 when they entered service. Never drove them but was in the back quite often.

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, January 19, 2020 9:47 AM

OOP's, i seem to have forgotten somthing, the figure. Modern British army figures are pretty thin on the ground and seem to mainly aimed at Iraq and Afghanistan. Accurate Armour does have a range of 80's and 90's figures but i only found one which would fit N Ireland. Its not completly accurate as it seems to have body armour over the jacket when it should be underneath and is missing the ceramic plates on the front and back that covered the vital organs. But it does have the correct chect rig and an SA 80 so its close enough. Not the best resin figures i have seen but not to bad. The right arm is not a good fit, the puches are molded to allow for the rifle which is nice but the arm does not fit to the shoulder, so needed some filling at the back. The muzzle on the SA 80 has come off but i managed to save it and will attach later.

 

 

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Posted by Est.1961 on Sunday, January 19, 2020 1:43 PM

Nice start Bish, I've made a start on the scammell. Sub assemblies building up, the engine won't be visible unless the breakdown truck breaks down ideas flowing might follow your fine examples and set a scene to that end

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Posted by Gamera on Sunday, January 19, 2020 8:29 PM

Keavdog: Ohhhhhhh cool!

Bish: Nice work! Love the ability to insert the clear parts later, it can be a real pain to try to mask them and still get those PE screens painted.

Est. 1961: Looks good, shame you won't be able to see that nicely detailed engine.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Mopar Madness on Sunday, January 19, 2020 8:38 PM

Gamera

Chad: She looks fantastic! Looks like you've got some pre-shading there- I really like the results! 

Only issue is the side mirrors. Personally I think I'd leave them off till the end. If you can get the thing build and painted without knocking them off and losing them you're a better man (or orangutan) than I... Embarrassed

 

With fingers crossed I'll not break those mirrors! Angel

Chad

God, Family, Models...

At the plate: 1/72 Revell He177 & 1/35 Tamiya Sdkfz 251

On deck: 1/35 Bronco LWS

In the hole: 1/144 Revell S-100

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Posted by Bish on Monday, January 20, 2020 1:53 PM

Nice start Joe. My Snatch has a nice engine, it is a shame to cover that up.

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Posted by Sigep Ziggy on Monday, January 20, 2020 7:42 PM

It look like some great models have been started, can't wait to see more posts.

I have received the engine and machine guns.

I got four of these for $16 plus S/H, that's 8 guns and 32 magazines!

The engine has sparkplugs, pushrods and rocker arms!

These are the kit parts.

Here's the gun comparison.

  

And here's the size.

your shipmate,

Ziggy

 

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, January 21, 2020 7:35 AM

Ziggy: Wow those replacement guns are a 100% improvement! 

The kit guns, well they sorta remind me of balloon animals. Like some sort of inflatable weapon! 

 

BTW: I have gotten some work done on the Comet, not really enough for a photo though. I wish I hadn't bought the PE since now I feel duty bound to use the stuff, and things are going slowly with it. Check the kit instruction sheet, look at the PE instruction sheet, make sure they don't conflict and then add the part- it's slow as blazes... 

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Posted by Mopar Madness on Tuesday, January 21, 2020 9:12 AM

Those kit guns look pretty ridiculous next to that aftermarket gun!!

Chad

God, Family, Models...

At the plate: 1/72 Revell He177 & 1/35 Tamiya Sdkfz 251

On deck: 1/35 Bronco LWS

In the hole: 1/144 Revell S-100

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