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Japanese Group Build IX

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  • Member since
    March 2019
  • From: Post Falls, Idaho
Posted by Sigep Ziggy on Friday, February 7, 2020 6:13 PM

Not much of an update on my Zero, but very exciting for me.  Got this from Micro-Mark today!

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    October 2008
  • From: italy
Posted by bsyamato on Saturday, February 8, 2020 7:59 AM

Heres the truck updates before the primer; the only modify, i drilled the front lights to fill at the end vith something clear to simulate lens

 

 

all subassemblies ready, only rearview mirror out

 

At the next!

 

 

 

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Saturday, February 8, 2020 4:59 PM

Bsyamato: She's coming along great!

Ziggy: Ohhhh, nice! Tamiya makes some of the best paint!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

  • Member since
    March 2017
Posted by Armor_Aficionado on Sunday, February 9, 2020 4:58 AM

Latest progress on the Chi-ha.  Got all the wheels on, ready to start hand-painting the camouflage pattern.

 

 

 

 

  • Member since
    August 2014
  • From: Willamette Valley, Oregon
Posted by goldhammer on Sunday, February 9, 2020 7:29 PM

Got the rest of the bits together on the office, the wing and engine together.  Hopefully get that painted late in the week and pics to follow that prior to closing the fuselage up.

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Sunday, February 9, 2020 7:58 PM

AA: That looks good! Looking forward to seeing the camo go on.

GH: Sounds good, looking forward to the photos!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Sunday, February 9, 2020 8:05 PM

I got a good bit done on the Zero over the weekend...

I sprayed the whole aircraft NM but ended up with trash in the finish so I sanded the garbage out. But the wheel wells still looked okay so I went ahead and sprayed some translucent blue-green in there.

I then masked off the wheel wells with Silly Putty and added another coat of gloss black as primer for the NM. I did a F-51 Mustang for John 3:16's Korean War GB at the same time. 

I then sprayed on the Alclad NM finish doing the F-51 at the same time.

I'm going to let this dry for a couple of days just to make perfectly sure it's good and set and then apply a couple coats of hairspray and then the green/grey finish. Hopefully; it will come off properly to show the NM finish underneath.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Sunday, February 9, 2020 11:01 PM

AND WE HAVE BADGES!!!

 

Big thanks to Rock Baker and Jack/Jgeratic!!!! I decided this being number nine to go with a kitsune, the supernatural Japanese fox of legend with nine tails and the ability to take the form of a beautiful woman. Thanks guys for doing such a beautiful job transforming my idea into a reality!

https://rock-baker.blogspot.com/

Sorry they're a little late- I let the date slip up on me and Rock has been busy with a series of comic books. But he did his usual superlative job!

And Jack/Jgeratic did his usual super work on getting the thing coloured up and lettered. I love the fox mask on the side!!! 

Anyway here she is!!!

And part of reason for being late is the first pictures I submitted to Rock had the figure in a dress that looked more like a qipao or cheongsam which is a more Chinese sort of dress. I asked Rock if he could redraw the picture with a kimono and he nicely agreed to make up for my mistake. I'd already sent the picture out to Jack and he'd already whipped it into shape. So just for the heck of it I'm going to throw the other badge up here in case anyone would rather use it instead:

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Armor_Aficionado on Monday, February 10, 2020 3:50 AM
Badges? Badges? We don't need no stinking BADGES! (sorry, couldn't resist!)

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  • From: Naples, FL
Posted by tempestjohnny on Monday, February 10, 2020 7:39 AM
What a great looking badge

 

  • Member since
    October 2008
  • From: italy
Posted by bsyamato on Monday, February 10, 2020 11:24 AM

Good updates there Yes

Lately IBG covered almost all ww2 jap tanks included Chi-ha in 72 scale, i'll get em all asap Eats

Nice badge!!

 

More updates on the truck:

After mig primer i made a mix of various colors to get the japanese kaki color, protected after with glossy clear, also painted minor details and some washing

 

 

 

not all glued , just to show the whole thing

 

 

 

At the next!

 

 

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Monday, February 10, 2020 12:05 PM

Bsyamato: That looks good. The colour is spot on and nice work on getting all the tiny parts in the suspension together- can't be much left now. 

AA: Lol, I haven't seen that movie in ages. I need to watch it again- it's so quotable!!! 

 

And gotta say the guys knocked it out of the park with the badges. Buy one of Rock Baker's comics at Amazon and thank Jack/Jgeratic next time you see one of his posts! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

  • Member since
    March 2019
  • From: Post Falls, Idaho
Posted by Sigep Ziggy on Monday, February 10, 2020 8:54 PM

Bsyamato, the truck is looking good!

Gamera, both the F51 and the Zero are coming along, what did you use for the blue-green color?

Clean and waiting for paint.

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    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 7:43 AM

Ziggy: Looks like you're ready to dig in there! 

 

The blue-green is just Tamiya clear yellow and blue mixed and sprayed over the NM finish in the landing gear bays. It SHOULD have been more bluish. I sprayed a straight clear blue overcoat over top of this but the colour didn't want to shift so I just left it this way.

The aotake the Japanese used as a protective coating started off blue and gradually turned more greenish due to time and weather. As a new aircraft I wanted it more blue but I guess she's now an older plane... Tongue Tied

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Northern California
Posted by jeaton01 on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 2:37 PM

Super badge!

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.htm

 

  • Member since
    March 2017
Posted by Armor_Aficionado on Wednesday, February 12, 2020 12:23 AM

Latest progress - got the camouflage scheme cmpleted:

 

 

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, February 12, 2020 10:18 AM

AA: Ohhhhhhhh, looks cool! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

  • Member since
    August 2014
  • From: Willamette Valley, Oregon
Posted by goldhammer on Wednesday, February 12, 2020 10:21 PM

Nice camo AA.

Ordered out canopy masks for the Myrt today, so the interior paint is on hold till it gets here next week.

My lady saw the RoG beetle kit at HL tonight....she had a'68 back in the day so will be starting it at the club tomorrow night.

 

Gamera- love the badges, give my congrats to your helpers.  Well deservedBow Down

  • Member since
    October 2008
  • From: italy
Posted by bsyamato on Thursday, February 13, 2020 9:59 AM

Armor_Aficionado

Latest progress - got the camouflage scheme cmpleted:

 

 

 

 

Well done with the camo Yes Yes Yes

 

I broke my speed record :)

 

Wheels painted drybrushed and washed, also black border to the clear parts 

 

 

After glossy put the few decals

 

 

Then last night glued all pieces togheter , matt cote and and last retouches.. Finished :)

 

 

theres two little bottles under the cargo box

 

 

 

Asap under sun pictures

 

 

  • Member since
    April 2006
  • From: ON, Canada
Posted by jgeratic on Thursday, February 13, 2020 11:42 AM

Thought some might be interested in this Zero tail fairing posted on another forum.   Reveals portions of original paint not exposed to sun, along with good example of Atoke:

More photos/info here:

https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235032785-mitsubishi-zero-type-21-colours/page/2/#comments

 

regards,

Jack

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Thursday, February 13, 2020 2:11 PM

Bsyamato: That looks good!!! Nice work!! I'll wait till you get the outside photos up to post her, I'm assuming that's the one you want to use?

Jack: Very cool, thanks for posting! It's always helpful to look at the real thing. 

And I assume you read though the comments- we all love your badges! Heart

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

  • Member since
    April 2006
  • From: ON, Canada
Posted by jgeratic on Thursday, February 13, 2020 6:33 PM

Hi Cliff, and yes thanks everyone for the comments concerning this year's badge. Beer

 

regards,

Jack

GAF
  • Member since
    June 2012
  • From: Anniston, AL
Posted by GAF on Saturday, February 15, 2020 7:50 PM

Jack> I agree that the badge looks great!  Nice work.

AA> That Chi-ha is looking splendid.

Bsyamato> That's a good looking truck.  You don't see many Japanese WWII vehicle models.

Gamera> The aotake looks fine.  It could vary widely as I understand.

As for me, progress is glacial.  I've finished the pit in a desultory fashion, and installed it in the fuselage. I didn't have instrument decals, so I just hit them with a white prismacolor pencil and some dabs of black, red and yellow paint. I can get the wings on now and start putting on some base coats.

Take care!

Gary

  • Member since
    April 2006
  • From: ON, Canada
Posted by jgeratic on Saturday, February 15, 2020 10:26 PM

Thanks Gary.

From what I remember reading, the rear 'deck' behind the pilot's seat would be black like the cowl.

 

regards,

Jack

GAF
  • Member since
    June 2012
  • From: Anniston, AL
Posted by GAF on Saturday, February 15, 2020 11:53 PM

You're welcome!  Always some good artwork from you.  Smile

As for the rear deck, the instructions call out for Mitsubishi cockpit color, and I think I read that in doing research (which I've forgotten where).  Somewhere along the line they changed.  I do know that the A6M2b I did previously had a black rear deck.  Anyway, that's the reason it's green.

Thanks!

Gary

  • Member since
    March 2019
  • From: Post Falls, Idaho
Posted by Sigep Ziggy on Sunday, February 16, 2020 12:39 AM

I have to say...

Great Badges!

A.A., Outstanding Camo on the Chi-ha.

Bsyamato, the truck looks fantastic!

Gary, Your Zero looks Great!  It make me realize how small my Zero really is.

Started using some paint.

And some washes.

Maybe some glue next!

  • Member since
    April 2006
  • From: ON, Canada
Posted by jgeratic on Sunday, February 16, 2020 12:54 AM

Ziggy, glad you like the badge, thanks!

Gary, it's possible my notes are outdated on Japanese particulars.  There is a 2013 post from  Nick Millman (Aviation of Japan) concerning A6M5 Type 52 colours:

https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234951399-a6m5-type-52-colours-inetrior-and-exterior/

 

regards,

Jack

 

 

 

GAF
  • Member since
    June 2012
  • From: Anniston, AL
Posted by GAF on Sunday, February 16, 2020 12:36 PM

It's rather uncertain.

Posted By: Ryan Toews <mailto:ritoews@mb.sympatico.ca?subject=Re: Mitsubishi Zero Cockpit Deck Color>
Date: Monday, 19 November 2001, at 3:35 p.m.
 
In Response To: Re: Mitsubishi Zero Cockpit Deck Color (Don Marsh)
 
Thanks Don,
I was fairly sure about the Nakajima use of black, but I have a nagging uncertainty about Mitsubishi. Although the NASM Zero was incorrectly painted in a Nakajima scheme there still was some solid research done as to paint details. And the conclusion they came up with was it had the decking in the same color as the exterior. Now, I understand that the paint had been stripped from the plane when it was examined by the Army, but I doubt all the paint was removed and the remnants that were found were held to be green. But it would be nice to get other evidence to support this.
Ryan
 
I think it will remain "green" even if it is incorrect.  The color controversy is full of theory and speculation, based on old color photos and suspect remnants of pieces of crashed aircraft.  For example, recently Aviation of Japan posted an article on the supposed "tan" interior colors of the A6M3 cockpit sections.  After a bit of buffing, it was found that they were actually green!  I guess this just goes to show that sometimes eyeballing colors can be misleading. Smile
 
Meanwhile, it's possible my interior color is probably totally wrong anyway.  It seems most A6M5s were made at the Nakajima plant, so its possible all of it is way off.Oh, well!  In the words of a famous Scottish Chief Engineer, "It's green!"
 
Gary

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Sunday, February 16, 2020 5:30 PM

Gary: Looks good, nice work there in the cockpit!

Ziggy: Nice start!

 

About the turtle deck, I dunno. I painted mine the cockpit interior colour. Maybe I should repaint it black, I'll have to look around some more... Dunce

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

GAF
  • Member since
    June 2012
  • From: Anniston, AL
Posted by GAF on Sunday, February 16, 2020 8:45 PM

Gamera> Thanks!  The cockpit's only so-so.  I'm no Lawdog! Smile

After some consideration, I may go ahead and paint the rear-deck a blackish color (since even the black is not exactly black).  Instead, I'll leave it up to the participants here (and anyone who might like to chime in).

"What do you think would look better?  A black rear deck or an interior green rear deck"

Doesn't matter about historical accuracy.  This question is about what you think looks better!  No comments about "Well, it's up to you!"  This is your chance to show off your superior color coordination skills.  Big Smile

Gary

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