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Posted by Gamera on Sunday, September 13, 2020 7:32 PM

Piers: Good to see you again. I hope everything is okay now.

Gary: Hmmm, Tenchi is interesting. Something to think about.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

GAF
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Posted by GAF on Sunday, September 13, 2020 3:06 PM

Lostagain> Welcome back!  Was wondering where you had wandered off to.  Nothing like work to get in the way of... work?  Anyway, thanks!  I find the decal framing is a lot easier than freehanding or masking.  Just need some clear decal paper, a straight edge and a sharp Xacto knife.  Of course, some canopies are easier than others.

Gary

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Posted by lostagain on Saturday, September 12, 2020 6:53 AM

 

Hi guys, I am back after a work induced absence. I have progressed minimally until the last couple of weeks, hoping to push on a bit more now. Looking back I last posted in May, time flies when you are having fun!

 

A lot has happened since then, on and off this GB, so….

 

Steve, the girder work under the deck looks crazy difficult. And Zeros small enough to lose anywhere, my eyeballs would be spinning trying to see that fine a detail – that is seriously bonkers. And when you said ‘ I know it doesn’t look like much’ – It looks like more time than I spend on an entire model…

 

GreySnake, The 61 hull reminded me of a Cyberman! 32 degrees at 7:30? That is crazy hot! Cool and raining down here to welcome spring in. It really came together well with the two tone scheme but that thing with the wheels was really strange – never remember anything like that before. Yep, Tamiya’s moulding of the commander is weird, posed like he’s a few beers into the bbq.

 

Zvezda, serious detail work in the Kate there, and beautifully finished.

 

GAF, Nice work on the chipping and the result you achieved with the canopy framing is super. Going to pinch that one. And then the crazy crazing – what a pain in the rear. The finished result including the pilot is great.

 

Waikong – your interior looks fantastic – the extra effort was worth it, and yes it is a sickness, so I find an OOB build every now and then is mentally valuable. That front lens is a pain, but looks like you had a good solution. The weathering has come up well.

 

Cliff, the weathering on your Zero is well done – I am still finding it difficult to make extreme weathering look realistic.

 

 

 

GAF, I like your idea of a Tenchi GB badge…

 

GAF
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Posted by GAF on Friday, September 11, 2020 4:31 PM

waikong> Nice work!  Like Gamera, I think I read the ground crews kept the hinomaru touched up, so I didn't do much with mine.  One thing I did do is that after posting the pictures of my completed A6M5 I found a silver sharpie I had forgotten about and used it to add a few more chip spots on the leading edges, plus ran it along the aerial wire.  Worked great!  So if you finish her up and want to add a few more dings, I suggest getting a silver colored Sharpie pen.  It has many uses so is a good investment.

Gamera> No problem!  Maybe that is why I was thinking of the Yamato because I had seen the previous GB badge.  Well, there's always Tenchi...  Big Smile

Gary

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, September 11, 2020 10:12 AM

Yeah I think the ground crews did touch up the leading edges, hinomaru etc. So it all looks good from here! Yes

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by waikong on Friday, September 11, 2020 10:08 AM

Gamera, interesting you said that.  I put yellow on top of the brown, and those areas I couldn't really scrap off.  I guess I could use more force and with a tougher brush, but didnt' want to ruin the whole masking/painting of the yellow.  So I will put it to good maintanence by the ground crew :)

Falconmd - you can get it on Amazon or Ebay.  Just search for Bondic, that's the named brand, there other generic brands that make the same thing, but since I haven't tried them, can't say they work just as well.

 

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, September 11, 2020 8:18 AM

Waikong: That looks good!!! Love the UV glue lens. And the chipping looks great! Frankly I think it looks better than mine. I have some chipping fluid but since I was just going to do the whole thing I just hosed it with 2-3 coats of hairspray. I've got less and less use for hairspray with every passing year so might as well use the stuff.

I put down several coats of paint and let it sit for a few days before I started chipping. Which I think was a mistake, should have went with one coat of paint and chipped it right away. I mean it did come off as you can see in the photos but I had to use more force than probably was a good idea. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by falconmod on Friday, September 11, 2020 7:12 AM

waikong

Made some progress on my Dinah.  First, using Bondic, a clear resin that is cured in a few seconds with UV light, I fixed my missing nose lense issue.  This is great stuff, and the instant cure is wonderful for people like me that are impatient - I know, bad trait for a modeler.  Definitely will use it in the future for headlights, landing lights, etc...

Did some priming and I try to learn a new skill with each model and inspired by Gamera, decided to try chipping fluid. I've always done chipping by just apply silver paint with a brush or sponge.  For this one, I laid down metallic aluminum coat and then Vallejo chipping fluid. This is a pretty good technique, I find that it gives me more control than using a sponge and you can create much more subtle fading effects with light scrubbing with a stiff brush. More to learn of course.

 

Where can you get UV glue?

On the Bench: 1/72 Ki-67, 1/48 T-38

1/72 EF-111, 1/144 AC-130, 1/72 Me-210

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Posted by waikong on Thursday, September 10, 2020 4:10 PM

Made some progress on my Dinah.  First, using Bondic, a clear resin that is cured in a few seconds with UV light, I fixed my missing nose lense issue.  This is great stuff, and the instant cure is wonderful for people like me that are impatient - I know, bad trait for a modeler.  Definitely will use it in the future for headlights, landing lights, etc...

Did some priming and I try to learn a new skill with each model and inspired by Gamera, decided to try chipping fluid. I've always done chipping by just apply silver paint with a brush or sponge.  For this one, I laid down metallic aluminum coat and then Vallejo chipping fluid. This is a pretty good technique, I find that it gives me more control than using a sponge and you can create much more subtle fading effects with light scrubbing with a stiff brush. More to learn of course.

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, September 9, 2020 7:27 AM

Thanks Waikong. I'm not totally happy but it's another I'm chalking up as a learning exercise. 

Gary: My apologies, somehow I missed your post. I like your idea but we already had the Japanese lady dressed in a sailor suit with a battleship- I think it was JGB four or five? All my older stuff is back on Photo Bucket and hard to get to now. 

I dunno- maybe a flight attendant this time with a civilion jetliner? 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by waikong on Tuesday, September 8, 2020 3:26 PM

GS - I think that's a great job on the figure camo, that tank came out very nice.

 

Gamera - that is some nice weathering/paint work.  I always find peeling camo paint tough to pull off realistically for myself.  

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GAF
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Posted by GAF on Friday, September 4, 2020 9:04 PM

Ten?  How about "Operation Ten Go"?  A battleship Yamato with a beautiful Japanese Sailor Suited girl?  If it is the end...  Big Smile

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ten-Go

Gary

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, September 2, 2020 7:55 AM

Hmm, I'll do that Greysnake- thanks!!! 

 

And yes I'm planning on a JGB X next year. Not sure about XI, ten is a nice round number though. Anyone have any suggestions on a badge? The kitsune I thought fit well with nine being a nine-tailed fox. I'm not sure what would work with ten though. 

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Posted by GreySnake on Tuesday, September 1, 2020 11:08 AM
Thanks Gamera. I’d suggest looking for the Fine Molds Type 61 over the Tamiya one. There are two different versions an early version and a later version with various upgrades such as a searchlight. Not to mention the engine deck screens are PE and the tracks look much better. I was looking at them online and the kits are more expensive then I’m willing to pay.
 
 
If there will be another Japanese GB next year I’ll do one of the two Type 74’s that are in the stash.
 
 
GAF, thank you!

 
GAF
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Posted by GAF on Saturday, August 29, 2020 12:45 PM

Gamera> The hinomaru turned out nice.  Good work!  That aircraft has seen better days! Big Smile

GS> The Type 61 turned out very well.  I like the two tone camo.  The commander figure does seem very relaxed.

Better keep it away from Gamera though, as he will have Godzilla stepping on it!  Surprise

Gary

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Posted by Gamera on Saturday, August 29, 2020 7:48 AM

Greysnake: Despite the issues you had with the decals, air intake, and tow cables that's a beautiful piece of work there! Great job!!! Heart

Just put you down and thanks for joining us!!! 

 

PS: Now I want to build a Type 61... Hmm

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Posted by GreySnake on Friday, August 28, 2020 8:46 PM
Wonderful work on the Zero GAF, never would guessed you had trouble with it now.
 
 
That’s one beat up looking Zero Gamera I like it!
 
Waikong, the Dinah is looking good. The missing part will probably show up right as you finish the kit like always happens to me.
 
As for me started work on the commander figure on Monday.
Here he is finished apart from his goggles.
 
Can’t say I’m the best figure painter in the world I’m trying to improve my skills. Right now I’m slowly switching over to Vallejo paints and still trying to figure them out. The next figures I’ll do will have some shading on the skin as this figure looks very bland.  
Tools were painted and given some weathering.
 
Tools were then glued on the model.
 
While looking over the model something looked wrong. Somehow I placed the left air intake? too far forward.
 
At this point I was rather worried if I could get the intake off without damaging the kit and with a little help from a blade it popped right off. Glad I used the regular Tamiya extra thin and not the orange cap.
 
Took the airbrush out and sprayed the bare plastic NATO black, Flat Earth and then Field Grey try to match the tone of the original paint. The next day I gave the spot a gloss cote and once the model is given dullcote you’ll never know there was a mistake.
 
Then went ahead and picked some of the panels and details with a dark wash just to bring some life to the model. Tamiya includes a nylon string for the tow cable and I decided to replace it with a spare cable from a Dragon kit. This was a mistake as I soon found out as its smaller then the attachment points that hold the cable and also stiff and doesn’t look very realistic. I did my best to glue down the cable but at one point it wouldn’t hold and took some paint with it.
 
Gave the model a spray of dullcote earlier this morning and decided to call it good enough. 
I could have done a lot better on this model and there are a few mistakes that show. My T-55 from eariler this year was much better. The figure should have gone to the parts box as he doesn't really fit great at all. I should not work on models while stressed out. Lesson learned. I’m happy with the kit nonetheless and will strive to make my next model much better. Apologies for the pictures not being great I don’t have a great place to take photos and it's been overcast today. 
 
Gamera go with this picture if you don’t mind.  

 
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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, August 27, 2020 9:29 PM

Waikong: That looks good! If the glue is anything like the MicroScale stuff it will dry clear. It just takes awhile. It might even take a few days or even a week.

Gary: Please post more photos of your pilot when you get him done.

 

I got a little more done on my Zero. The decals really annoyed the krap out of me. I ended up airbrushing the upper wing ones since I couldn't get them to lay down completly over the airlon hinges.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by GAF on Thursday, August 27, 2020 3:43 PM

Waikong> Thanks!  I've done a little work on the pilot since then so maybe he's not as angry.  Big Smile

The Dinah is looking good.  It has such sleek lines it reminds me of an early jet.

As for the lense, if you have a HobbyLobby nearby or a crafts store, you might try looking for a bead to use as a replacement.  I've used them in a C-47 for landing lights and they look pretty good.  Maybe the lense will turn up when you least expect it.

Gary

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Posted by waikong on Thursday, August 27, 2020 2:31 PM

Gary, that zero came out looking great!  That pilot looks really angry :)

So I made progress, got most of it closed up, started putting the clear parts on

And this disaster strikes, while trying to put on the front 'lense' which is concave in shape, it popped off never to be found again.  I tried to use some testor clear glue to fill it in, but I guess it was too thick, as the innards dried white and cloudy.  Now I'm not sure what to do, got some bondic UV 'glue'. going to test to see if that will work. Happy to take any suggestions (sorry about the blurry pic)

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, August 24, 2020 6:22 PM

Gary: That turned out spectacular!!!

Love your pilot but I liked the photo without him a little better so I used it. But overall great job!

 

Sorry guys my schedule is going to be little off for the next few weeks. One of the guys at work just had a hernia operation and I'm working to cover for him.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

GAF
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Posted by GAF on Sunday, August 23, 2020 12:21 PM

Greysnake>  Thank you!  Considering all the disassembling, it turned out better than I expected.

I'll call the A6M5a Zero done.  The kit went together without many problems, but I created a few just to make sure I was still modeling!  Big Smile

The pilot figure is from the Hasegawa A6M2b kit.

Nothing special to report.  I painted the upper with Rust-O-Leum "Hunters Green" that, once you knock the shine off, is a fair representation of IJN green.  YMMV.  The bottom color was Testors "Flat Light Aircraft Gray" with a wash of "Sage".  I did repaint the rear canopy deck as black, but used "Gunmetal Grey".  You can hardly see it under all those canopies!  I did manage to cobble together enough decals to finish her, in addition to using painted clear decal paper to frame the canopy.  Chipping is just silver paint, and weathering was a Model Master black wash.

You will note the wheel-wells and gear doors were NOT done in aotake, as the latest research seems to indicate Mitsubishi aircraft had these painted in the bottom color.  This is a choice, and anyone who paints theirs in aotake (especially later war) will not be laughed at!

The pilot was done in Tamiya XF-72 Brown JGSDF.  The life vest is khaki, and the ribbons are sage.  The skin tone is Testors "Flat Tan".  Japanese pilots are not very colorful!  I tried detailing the face, but it's just so-so.  A black wash was applied, and then using a white prismacolor pencil highlighted the raised areas a bit.  The goggles were edged in silver and Future was applied to the lenses.

I still need to finalize the figure as I seem to have misplaced my bag of terrain grass.  I also need to add some insulators on the Zero's aerial wire, but that's not a big concern.

Anyway, here's the final images for you to study and snicker at.

And that's it for the Japanese!  Thanks to Gamera for running this GB!

Tenno Heika Banzai!

Gary

PS> Gamera, I'll leave it up to you on what photo you wish to place on the front page. Smile

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Posted by GreySnake on Thursday, August 20, 2020 9:40 AM
Thanks, Gamera.
 
 
I’ve only ever had one other part to a Tamiya kit fail and it wasn’t even plastic. A 1/20 Formula 1 car I built a number of years ago had the front rubber tires split sideways five years after being finished.  Built a number of other cars by them around the same time and never had the same issue show up. I also have a T-34/76 by Tamiya that uses the same type of method to secure the road wheels as the Type 61 built and didn’t have the parts split after painting.
 
 
GAF, Amazing work on the Zero!  

 
GAF
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Posted by GAF on Thursday, August 20, 2020 7:13 AM

Strike up the Gunkan March! I am happy to report that the A6M5a Type 52 is finished!  That heavy rushing of air you hear is me sighing in relief!

After the aerial wire (which is nylon thread) dried overnight, I cut the end at the pole.  I had jammed a toothpick between the canopy and the pole to force it back a little while the glue dried.  When I removed the toothpick the pole moved forward a little and kept the aerial wire taut.  Success!  I might want to add some insulators on the wire, but I won't press my luck today.

Gamera, I'll post up finished photos later when the pilot figure is complete so I can include both.

Thanks for looking!

Gary

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, August 19, 2020 7:53 PM

Gary: The pilot looks fine to me. Looking forward to the finished result!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

GAF
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Posted by GAF on Wednesday, August 19, 2020 7:16 PM

Waikong> Thanks!  You'll probably not learn much about figure painting from me.  I'm of the old "wargaming" school of figure painting where you slap on the base colors and call them done!  Still, I'm trying to give the pilot figure a bit more attention.  Here's where he stands now with the base colors on.  Still needs a lot of detail work.

Gamera> The A6M5a is finished, except for the aerial wire which is being glued into position.  I just have to wait for one end to dry before gluing the other end, which can take hours.  Should be ready tomorrow unless I screw it up (as I already have done once).

Greysnake> You've done some great work on the 61 so far.  The cracks shouldn't be a problem, though it is strange for that to happen.

Gary

 

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, August 19, 2020 10:53 AM

Greysnake: Love the camo, she's turning out great! Yes

Weird about the wheels though, I've never had an issue with poor quality plastic in a Tamiya kit. In a few old Warsaw Pact kits but never anything Japanese esp Tamiya. 

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Posted by GreySnake on Wednesday, August 19, 2020 10:20 AM
Thank you, RG and waikong.
 
 
waikong, the KI-45 is looking great.
 
 
GAF, nice save on the Zero it’s looking nice.
 
 
The Type 61 is coming along slowly, not enough time in the day it seems to make much progress. Found a nasty surprise while putting the road wheels back on for a glosscote. The middle section of the road wheel is made out of a softer plastic after putting them on I noticed a few have noticeable cracks apI’m not sure what has happened.pearing.Ruling out a paint reaction as only six of the wheels have this issue.
I’ll probably avoid using any enamel washes now around the wheels. Just because the plastic has made it known it’s fragile.  
 
After giving the model a glosscote the decals were applied.
The decals junk to say the least. Every decal was very thick and even with numerous applications of Micro Sol they still wouldn’t settle.
Another glosscote after applying the decals did help correct the issue somewhat. I’m hoping a dullcote will help out when it’s time to spray it. The markings are for JGSDF 10th Division. The division was raised in 1962 and is headquartered in Nagoya.
 
Annoyingly I forgot to paint the pioneer tools for the model. Spent more time cleaning the airbrush then I did painting the tools.
 
The horrid tracks were painted Tamiya XF-84 Dark Iron.
 
The commanders M2 that is included with the kit is very poor. Found a much better one in the spare parts box.
 

 
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Posted by Gamera on Sunday, August 16, 2020 8:29 AM

Gary: That looks great! You've made an excellent recovery there. And the figure looks good. The colour of the suit looks fine. If you want it lighter you can always just add highlights, if you want it darker you can add shadows to the recesses. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by waikong on Saturday, August 15, 2020 11:50 PM

Thanks Gamera, I think detailing cockpits is starting to be a sickness. :) GAF - oh, a figure, I've desperately been trying to improve my figure painting, can't wait to see yours.

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