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The 50 Shades of Gray Group Build!

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  • From: Nashotah, WI
Posted by Glamdring on Friday, February 12, 2021 9:04 PM

Bravo, Lostagain!  Very impressive!

 

68, nice inclusion of the false canopy.  I didn't even know such a thing existed.  

Robert

"Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm." 

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Posted by TheMongoose on Saturday, February 13, 2021 8:52 AM

Lost again I was finally able to see your pictures. The Melbourne is really looking good. can't wait to see some close-ups as you start adding details. That big decal on the Stern for the Helo landing spot was the bane of my existence. yours looks really great!

In the pattern: a dual build of my KittyHawk F-5's.

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  • From: Australia
Posted by lostagain on Sunday, February 14, 2021 4:54 AM

Thanks Mongoose, you are too kind - the helo deck decal was a monster for me too - I am using the Ronin decal set for the Aussie FFGs, and the deck markings are not the same as the USN so they don't line up with the markings etched in the deck.
So that gave me some problems chasing it round the place - so I managed to break off one corner, and it's repaired with a couple of bits of white strip.
Basically, don't look too close....

Tomcat, good luck with the replace/repair effort.

68, love the Thunderbolt painting. I have seen the fake canopy on some Canuck Hornets too.

 

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  • From: Nashville, TN area
Posted by bobbaily on Monday, February 15, 2021 6:12 PM

As always, great work being posted-you guys continue to raise the bar.

Finally got motoviated to get the Chevy finished-started with Bare Metal Foil-discovered real quick that BMF is a skill set that requires time & effort...and skills I don't have.

Masked the trim with Tamiya tape and moved to the Molotow Chrome Pen-2mm-it was ok but I think it was getting a little old-used some Golden Flow silver-I liked it but it is a litte thin for brushing (going to pick up the non Flow version).  Pulled the tape off....along with several decals....really thought that they had enough clear coat to prevent that....live and learn..Thought about doing some touch up-didn't work.  Body is soaking in 'Mean Green'-will try to clean it up and start over tomorrow.  If not, then Plan B....

 

 

bob

 

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Posted by Tomcat on Tuesday, February 16, 2021 5:03 PM

Well here is the final result of my F15E strike eagle with decal, redone....sort of. I was able to locate a picture of the original art:

from this I made a decal to place on the model. I had to reduce the image to be in scale (more or less) and the result yielded a fairly dark image, but i thought it was usable.

Since the image contains "white" I had to print this on white decal paper. Here I prepped the model by caefully scraping, rubbing away the damaged one. I used Solvaset to help soften up the decal...

 Let me tell you that trying to work on a completed model is vary harrowing to say the least. I was pretty sure I'd break something off. To my amazement she weathered the storm with no additonal damage. Before applying the new one, I painted over the general area where the decal was to be placed with white. I had hoped the white beneath the decal would help to lighten it up some and make the other colors a liitle more vibrant. After the white was dry, I brushed on a coat of Future to give the decal something to hold onto. Then I applied to decal, let it dry and then a coat of testors decal setting solution. some of the white protruded the decal edges so I carefully painted on Gunship Grey and blended it into the surrounding paint. After all that dried I brushed on some acrylic flat to even out the finish and here it is...

Pretty awful, don't you think. You win some and you loose some. I'm not going to spend any more time on her, unless of course I do come across a legitimate decal Wink. So call it done and use the last picture if you please. Thanks for hosting this GB and putting up with my ranting. Thanks for looking.

BTW, Bobbaily I love the Chevy and believe me I feel your pain with the decal.

 

Mark aka Tomcat

On the workbench: Monogram 1/24 '69 Pontiac GTO and a Monogram 1/67 (box scale) B-26 Invader

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  • From: Nashville, TN area
Posted by bobbaily on Tuesday, February 16, 2021 5:49 PM

Mark-so sorry for your battle with your decal-the Strike Eagle looks great-hopefully you will come across a decal that meets your goal.

Cleaned up the Chevy today-decided to experment a bit.  Tried some of the Badger primer-happy with it-still some learning but I can spray it indoors with no issues-I've always relied on spray cans so this is a good thing.

Came across an older Vallejo weathering kit-got it during one of Squadron's big sales several years ago....German grey...various shades of grey...hmmm...anyway, got the accents on and the lower part of the body painted....will use the darker grey for the roof tomorrow. 

Still learning using Vallejo-not thrilled about the auto paint applications but for this build, I'm good with it.  I have some Golden High Flow grey shading-may use that for the roof.  I've tested the Golden High Flow and it sprays great-but it will require mixing for military applications.

 

bob

 

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Posted by TheMongoose on Tuesday, February 16, 2021 9:37 PM

bobbaily

Mark-so sorry for your battle with your decal-the Strike Eagle looks great-hopefully you will come across a decal that meets your goal.

Cleaned up the Chevy today-decided to experment a bit.  Tried some of the Badger primer-happy with it-still some learning but I can spray it indoors with no issues-I've always relied on spray cans so this is a good thing.

Came across an older Vallejo weathering kit-got it during one of Squadron's big sales several years ago....German grey...various shades of grey...hmmm...anyway, got the accents on and the lower part of the body painted....will use the darker grey for the roof tomorrow. 

Still learning using Vallejo-not thrilled about the auto paint applications but for this build, I'm good with it.  I have some Golden High Flow grey shading-may use that for the roof.  I've tested the Golden High Flow and it sprays great-but it will require mixing for military applications.

 

 

 

i have found thinning the vallejo with Tamiya X-20A works the best. 1 drop of retarder medium per 20 drops paint and thinner. No graininess anymore and lays down smooth. Anyway hopefully I'm not to presumptuous and that's the kind of info you could use?

In the pattern: a dual build of my KittyHawk F-5's.

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  • From: Nashville, TN area
Posted by bobbaily on Wednesday, February 17, 2021 7:01 AM

TheMongoose

 

 
bobbaily

Mark-so sorry for your battle with your decal-the Strike Eagle looks great-hopefully you will come across a decal that meets your goal.

Cleaned up the Chevy today-decided to experment a bit.  Tried some of the Badger primer-happy with it-still some learning but I can spray it indoors with no issues-I've always relied on spray cans so this is a good thing.

Came across an older Vallejo weathering kit-got it during one of Squadron's big sales several years ago....German grey...various shades of grey...hmmm...anyway, got the accents on and the lower part of the body painted....will use the darker grey for the roof tomorrow. 

Still learning using Vallejo-not thrilled about the auto paint applications but for this build, I'm good with it.  I have some Golden High Flow grey shading-may use that for the roof.  I've tested the Golden High Flow and it sprays great-but it will require mixing for military applications.

 

 

 

 

 

i have found thinning the vallejo with Tamiya X-20A works the best. 1 drop of retarder medium per 20 drops paint and thinner. No graininess anymore and lays down smooth. Anyway hopefully I'm not to presumptuous and that's the kind of info you could use?

 

Mongoose-thank you and you're not being presumptuous.  I'm always looking for input to improve.  I have some X-20A and I'll give it a try today.  I have been hesitant to use non-Vallejo thinner based on what I've read in the forums about reactions but I'll give it a try.

Again, thank you.

bob

 

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Posted by TheMongoose on Wednesday, February 17, 2021 8:13 AM

Yep Bob I have tried a few others and created goo myself! seemsEven the acrylics that appear to not contain alcohol actually have a little bit in them. The X-20A has worked very well, I was totally surprised. I use a 50/50 mix with model color and just 80/20 paint to thinner max with model air.

The other side benefit was that I have not had any problems with paint pulling up from the tape since using the Tamiya  thinner.

In the pattern: a dual build of my KittyHawk F-5's.

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Posted by bobbaily on Wednesday, February 17, 2021 12:13 PM

TheMongoose

Yep Bob I have tried a few others and created goo myself! seemsEven the acrylics that appear to not contain alcohol actually have a little bit in them. The X-20A has worked very well, I was totally surprised. I use a 50/50 mix with model color and just 80/20 paint to thinner max with model air.

The other side benefit was that I have not had any problems with paint pulling up from the tape since using the Tamiya  thinner.

 

Mongoose-mixed up some of the Vallejo light grey that I used on the Chevy & some X-20A....found an old test mule to spray on-much better-I will be using the Tamiya moving forward.  Frustrating thing was that the paint itself was older/thicker (although labeled Model Air) so I mixed in some Vallejo Airbrush Thinner-either not enough and/or my skills are a work in progress....but still, the X-20A worked well and I have a full bottle or two lying about.

Again, thank you for sharing the tip.

bob

 

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Posted by Glamdring on Wednesday, February 17, 2021 8:05 PM

Tomcat - I will add you as complete.  A fine recovery from disaster!

Bob - That is a shame about the decals...but it looks to me that you inadvertantly found a way to replicate a race car that has been trading paint out on the track.  Glad you are moving forward though, and learning about Vallejo along the way.  Yes

Robert

"Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm." 

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Posted by bobbaily on Friday, February 19, 2021 9:16 AM

Thank you Robert...yes this has been a learning experience and continues to be so...

Ok-really wanted to do the Bare Metal Foil but decided that this isn't the time nor kit to do so-and my hand brushing the Golden Air Flow paint didn't work either...however, over in the Auto Forum, I did see NearsightedJohn built a '64 GTO A/FX and airbrushed Alcad on the chrome trim-looked great.  He taped off the trim, primed with gloss black and then Alcad Chrome.  He did a great job.

I don't have any Chrome in the paint supply, but I do have some Vallejo Metal Aluminum-figured it would work.  Didn't take the time to prime gloss black-fingers crossed that it would work...

I'm happy with it. Going to order some Vallejo Air Chrome and save the BMF treatment for later. Taping wasn't really that bad-somewhat relaxing.

Also, decided to weather the Chevy a little, thus the paint fade, especially on the roof.  Thinking about hiding some blemishes with some rust...hopefully get this one put to bed soon...several other Group Builds that I hope to finish before the deadlines....Wink

 

Bob

bob

 

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Posted by bobbaily on Friday, February 19, 2021 2:42 PM

Picked up the Vallejo Rust & Weathering kit @ HobbyLobby-not a bad deal with the 40% coupon that will be discontinued soon...anyway, rusted up the chassis first, then pulled out a test mule from the stash-a kit that I had started several years ago with the intent of extreme weathering.....anyway, I ended up rusting the Chevy a little....think barn find in the process of being restored...or at least taken to the drag strip on weekends...

Probably shoot some Future, decals and then dull coat...maybe with some dot filtering...maybe not...maybe a Fifty Shades of Rust GB...hmmmm

bob

 

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Posted by Glamdring on Saturday, February 20, 2021 8:25 PM

That is some sweet action Bob!  I love the two tone, and the rusting!

 

Robert

"Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm." 

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Posted by TheMongoose on Saturday, February 20, 2021 8:29 PM

Bob...50 shades of rust! Love it lmao

In the pattern: a dual build of my KittyHawk F-5's.

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Posted by lostagain on Monday, February 22, 2021 6:47 AM

 

Ah Bob, that is such a pain for you losing the decals, but you have turned it around very nicely there. Personally I live in fear of chrome trims and will cross the road to avoid them, so I reckon that is great work there.
And then the Chevy got rusty – that is super!

 

Tomcat, good recovery to get to the finish line – yep the result was not what you wanted but you got a good model you can put on the shelf with the right side out…

 

Mongoose, interesting using the X20A with Vallejo. For their metallics I use 1 drop Vallejo retarder, and 1 drop their thinner to 10 drops paint and it has been good so far. I will give your mix a go.

 

And after your comment about the helo deck decal, I thought I should look for your build – found yours and Steve’s over in the US ship GB. Should have looked earlier, following your builds could have saved me some pain…

 

The Melbourne? Fourth refill, resand and repaint of the superstructure joint and finally happy – I have to be ‘cos I am virtually out of my paint mix for the project. I learnt from other’s misfortune and kept the tape away from the decals…

 

The bridge is coming together too, just propped in place here, but good to see some progress.

 

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  • From: Nashville, TN area
Posted by bobbaily on Monday, February 22, 2021 9:47 AM

Robert, Mongoose & Lostagain-thank you.

Lostagain-the Melborne is looking good-I haven't built up the courage to attempt a ship in that scale...actually, a ship in any scale....and I'll add your Vallejo mixing tips to the list.

bob

 

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Posted by TheMongoose on Monday, February 22, 2021 2:51 PM

Lostagain how did you do those vents? mine werent in the open position and I was never happy with how they looked.

In the pattern: a dual build of my KittyHawk F-5's.

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Posted by Glamdring on Monday, February 22, 2021 5:35 PM

Lostagain, The Melbourne looks great, most impessive!

We are in the homestretch guys!  7 days left.   Funny how fast a year can go....

If you aren't done by 11:59 on 3/1, don't sweat it, I'll give some leeway to any active projects.  Yes

Robert

"Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm." 

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Posted by bobbaily on Monday, February 22, 2021 6:17 PM

Decals on today...again.  Fortunatly, there was a duplicate of the 'Mr. Chevy' on the Slixx sheet and I have more than enough drag racing kits/decals in the stash.  Should be able to get a Matt coat on tomorrow and then some light dot filtering w/oils on Wed.  Really want to get this one done on time..but...Robert, thank you for the extension...things happen...

bob

 

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Posted by TheMongoose on Thursday, February 25, 2021 7:55 PM

ok the Viper is all done. I finished up the base this week and we had a little sun todayin Cincinnati so I grabbed some pics. My accessories haven't even gotten on the water yet from Europe so I'm calling this finished for the group build. The base represents the USS Boxer



and let's use this one with Missile Rick grinning at everyone for the front page

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Posted by Glamdring on Thursday, February 25, 2021 9:02 PM

That is Phenomenal, Mongoose!  Thank you for joining and sharing it! 

Is the base premade or did you put it together too?

Robert

"Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm." 

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Posted by TheMongoose on Thursday, February 25, 2021 10:35 PM

Glamdring

That is Phenomenal, Mongoose!  Thank you for joining and sharing it! 

Is the base premade or did you put it together too?

 

thx glamdring! Yes, i built the base myself. Got some directions from a buddy over in Louisville. I drilled holes for the padeyes. Used 80 grit sandpaper for the deck. Designed the deck markings in Silhouette designer from pics off the Boxer. Then cut them out if frisket paper and used those to do the paint work.

In the pattern: a dual build of my KittyHawk F-5's.

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Posted by lostagain on Friday, February 26, 2021 5:15 AM

 

Bob, great to see the decals back, it is looking really good, gotta be happy with that recovery.

 

Mongoose, what a great build! The Viper is superb, the base has come up really well too The finish is great, details are great, like the humour of the rick and morty missiles and the touches of colour. The detail for the deck is great too – I like the angle cut at the edge of the deck.

 

The Melbourne is coming along well, but may cut into the extension time a bit though.
The boat decks were scratchbuilt on both sides; I used 0.6mm brass tube for the columns.

 

Then onto the PE; started with the railings on the masts and bridge and putting the radar together.

 

And started on the 02 deck; all the deck furniture went on, much of it specific to the RAN ships. Also got some of the railings going too.

 

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Posted by lostagain on Saturday, February 27, 2021 7:02 AM

Coming together quickly now, barring the usual stuff up or fat fingers on my part.
The bridge is on and the 02 deck railing is complete. The extra boat deck and extra railings on deck means some cannabalizing to stretch it far enough.

Frustratingly the railings on th estarboard side do not match up witht the torpedo tubes - I did look at chopping up what Academy supplied, but I don't have any spare to play around with, so it is what it is...

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Posted by bobbaily on Saturday, February 27, 2021 10:38 AM

Mongoose-great job on the Viper-and the base tops it off.  Love the weathering.

Lost- the railing issue is a bummer but it looks great-very impressive.

bob

 

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Posted by Glamdring on Saturday, February 27, 2021 8:12 PM

Lostagain, I am greatly impressed by the ship!  It keeps getting better and better.

As for my own ship, I now call it complete.  Suffered a minor disaster my accidently dropping a CA bottle on one of the safety nets around the flight deck, but I just needed to glue it back in place.  The CA was conveniently close by.

The final 3 components, chopper, drone, and anchor, are all firmly in place.

A proper completion photo will be forthcoming, then on the shelf it goes!  After making room...

Robert

"Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm." 

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Posted by bobbaily on Sunday, February 28, 2021 6:31 PM

Robert-nice job on your ship-so much detail-very good build.

Finished up the Chevy today-first a couple of pics of the engine and interior

borrowed the seat belts from another AMT kit

I have some follow up on the rear end-fought with the rear bumper and valance panel-figured I needed a break after the CA failed the task.

Fit of everything reminded me of why I don't like AMT auto kits-great subjects but the fit on these older kits leaves a lot to be desired....I ended up bringing out the Dremel to clear out the firewall so the engine wouldn't interfere with the firewall/interior...but I happy with it as long as I don't raise the hood...

Robert-thank you for hosting this GB and for everyone's encouragement. A lot of outstanding builds posted here-hope to build with you guys again soon.

Cheers

Bob

bob

 

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Posted by 68GT on Sunday, February 28, 2021 7:05 PM
I love the Chevy Bob even though I'm a Ford guy!

On Ed's bench, ???

  

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Posted by bobbaily on Sunday, February 28, 2021 7:14 PM

Thank you 68GT-yea, I'm a Ford guy myself but had enough family members that were on the Chevy side that I have fond memories of both growng up.

bob

 

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