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  • Member since
    August 2015
  • From: the redlands Fl
Posted by crown r n7 on Saturday, April 3, 2021 8:03 PM

all those builds are looking good.

my latest f-104c pics with intakes and nose in place .The f-104g still in preshade mode planning camo.

  .Nick

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    July 2019
Posted by Hoss WA on Saturday, April 3, 2021 8:53 PM

On Bartel's 109, the interior work on the engine compartment is complete as well as the insides of the interchangable covers. 

I'll show more of the interior during the final photos. I masked up the engine for painting before I thought to take some pics.

The main build is complete. Here it is primed and with the RLM 76 down. Wings next. 

 

 

 

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Posted by Hoss WA on Saturday, April 3, 2021 8:55 PM

John, wonderful 210. Your subdued camo application is perfect. Nice photos too. Crisp and clean. Congrats. 

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Sunday, April 4, 2021 4:36 AM

Hoss looking good there. Am i right in thinking this is the kit released a few years back with the removable panels. Looks like some very nice detail on those.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

  • Member since
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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Sunday, April 4, 2021 4:37 AM

Looks good Nick.

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    July 2019
Posted by Hoss WA on Sunday, April 4, 2021 8:40 PM

Bish

Hoss looking good there. Am i right in thinking this is the kit released a few years back with the removable panels. Looks like some very nice detail on those.

 

Hi Bish -- Yep, that's the one. Thanks for the comments. 

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    December 2002
  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Monday, April 5, 2021 3:01 AM

Your welcome, looks good. I was dubious when i first saw it, thought it was just a gimmick. But they seem to have mad a nice job of it. I think if i built in this scale, i would have to add one of these.

Now for an uodate on my 262. Got the cockpit finished up. The IP is all Eduard. I know the RLM 66 is a bit off on these sets, but i still really like thyem, certainly better than i could paint.

And the rest of the Pit. Here you can see the differance in colour between the Eduard PE and what i painted. Seatbelts are HGW, love these things.

And the gun bay was finished off minus the wiring. The bay and guns were all done with Alclad.

Got the top part of the pit fitted after fitting the IP. I wired up the back of the IP based on some pics of a build of these kit i found online. I could find any pics of the back of the real thing.

And then got all in inside parts of the fuselage fited, including the compass at the rear and camera at the front.

And got the fuselage together.

More soon.

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  • From: the redlands Fl
Posted by crown r n7 on Monday, April 5, 2021 5:50 AM

Very technical nice detailing..

  .Nick

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    December 2002
  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Monday, April 5, 2021 5:55 AM

Thanks Nick.

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    August 2020
  • From: Apex, NC
Posted by gomeral on Monday, April 5, 2021 10:15 AM

Alright, GB#3.  As with the Supermarine/Vickers GB, I showed interest in the 'feeler' thread, but have been out for several months.  So to make it official, go ahead and put me down for the Airfix 1/72 Bf109G-6 I claimed I'd save for this.  The boy took my Spitfire, but he left this, so no excuses, right? Stick out tongue

  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Monday, April 5, 2021 11:15 AM

And for the 3rd time, glad to have you on board. Is this one of the new tooled 109's?

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    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Monday, April 5, 2021 2:04 PM

WOW, those look amazing guys- big round of applause to all!!! 

 

Still dragging along here, haven't gotten much done all weekend. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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    January 2013
  • From: Athens, Greece
Posted by Zvezda1980 on Monday, April 5, 2021 3:15 PM

John: The finishing of the 210 is outstanding. Great result from a rather difficult kit.

Nick, I'm eager to see the final outcome. This is a metal delight.

Bish: Fantastic. Did you shrink an electrician to install your cabling, they look awesome! For the Eduard PE color, I once sprayed it with a mist of RLM66 and then took (a lot of) time to slowly wipe it off with the point of a thin brush (moist with IPA) from each dial/instrument. It kinda fooled the eye and reduced the contrast.

Hoss: Fantastic start and allow me to say... you are building fast! This is one of the prettiest 109 scheme options. I also wish to build one (perhaps motivated by the fact that this was based 5 miles from my home). I have some nice photos and accounts on sorties of Bartels , from the book on JG.27. If you 'd like a share, let me know.

 

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Monday, April 5, 2021 3:21 PM

Thanks guys.

Zvezda, thanks for that tip, nice idea. I use enamels as my main paint but Tamiya German grey is close so that would work. Will remember that for my next build. The RLM 02 parts look fine, it just seems to be the 66 thats to light.

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    January 2013
  • From: Athens, Greece
Posted by Zvezda1980 on Monday, April 5, 2021 3:32 PM

Assembly was finished as quick as possible (perfect fit) , so as to proceed to painting.

Engine & nose guns were masked. For this build, I decided to spray first overall with RLM02 (Tamiya acrylic).

Then I applied the cowling's yellow RLM04, splinter camo was masked and dark green RLM 71 followed.

I found it easier to then mask the upper surfaces and apply the gray-blue RLM65 everywhere (Gunze Acrylics), but this is subjective.

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    July 2019
Posted by Hoss WA on Monday, April 5, 2021 8:08 PM

Bish, your 262 is looking awesome in the detail department. Wow. 

And Zvezda - your Emil is coming along very nicely. Crisp and clean.

Here's an update on rot dreizehn. The main painting is now complete. I used paper cut out masks for the wing camo and I think it came out pretty well. The interchangable and removable covers are also complete. I painted the spinner because the decal didn't quite match my reference photos. Gloss coat and decals are next.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Hoss WA on Monday, April 5, 2021 8:11 PM

Zvezda1980

Hoss: Fantastic start and allow me to say... you are building fast! This is one of the prettiest 109 scheme options. I also wish to build one (perhaps motivated by the fact that this was based 5 miles from my home). I have some nice photos and accounts on sorties of Bartels , from the book on JG.27. If you 'd like a share, let me know.

 

 

Hi Zvezda - Thanks for your comments. It's certainly interesting that Bartels' actions were near your home. I'd love to take you up on your offer to learn more about the photos and accounts you have of Bartels and JG27. Part of the fun of this hobby for me is the history that goes along with it. Thanks!

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Tuesday, April 6, 2021 4:08 AM

Thats looking very nice Zvezda, love that engine and the camo colours look really nice.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Tuesday, April 6, 2021 4:09 AM

Nice work there Hoss. I like that jagged edge scehem, not seen that before. Lovely job on the spinner.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

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  • From: Apex, NC
Posted by gomeral on Tuesday, April 6, 2021 11:54 AM

Bish

And for the 3rd time, glad to have you on board. Is this one of the new tooled 109's?

 

 
You know, I'm not as knowledgable as I'd like to be in this hobby, so I went and looked it up.  The kit that I have looks to be a 2014 "new decals" rekit of the 2009 "new tooling" Airfix models, so...I guess yes?  To be quite blunt, I bought a handful of 1/72 Airfix kits when I decided to get back to the hobby and this was one of them.  I figured I had to start somewhere, and these kits would either be good and I'd enjoy them or annoying and I'd hand 'em to the kid.
 
Looking through this thread, y'all are making me regret signing up.  I figure I'll wind up going the Calvin & Hobbes route, being too embarassed to display my pitiful offering!

 

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Tuesday, April 6, 2021 1:30 PM

I know the kit you mean gomeral. I think once they have released new tools of a subject, they have stopped releaseing the old boxings, for the most part.

I'm sure you will do just fine, i do like that cartoon.

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  • Member since
    July 2019
Posted by Hoss WA on Tuesday, April 6, 2021 8:15 PM

Bish

Nice work there Hoss. I like that jagged edge scehem, not seen that before. Lovely job on the spinner.

 

Thanks Bish. 

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, April 7, 2021 2:57 PM

Hoss: That is possibly the coolest scheme I've ever seen on a Bf-109. And you're doing a great job with it!!! Yes

Zvezda: Great job there too, you're a little further along than I. 

Gomeral: Ohhhh, that sounds really cool! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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    November 2008
  • From: Central Florida
Posted by plasticjunkie on Wednesday, April 7, 2021 3:42 PM

Been away for a while so I hope I didn't leave anyone out.

Bish, outstanding work on the 262.

Z  , beautiful engine detailing.

Hoss, love the scalloped  scheme.

Outstanding work ya'll. I will be doing more work on my Kurfurst now that I can paint in the garage.

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Too many models to build, not enough time in a lifetime!!

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  • From: Athens, Greece
Posted by Zvezda1980 on Wednesday, April 7, 2021 5:13 PM

Hoss WA

 

Hi Zvezda - Thanks for your comments. It's certainly interesting that Bartels' actions were near your home. I'd love to take you up on your offer to learn more about the photos and accounts you have of Bartels and JG27. Part of the fun of this hobby for me is the history that goes along with it. Thanks!

 

Added something in a PM, hope it's interesting.

  • Member since
    July 2019
Posted by Hoss WA on Wednesday, April 7, 2021 10:47 PM

Bish

Nice work there Hoss. I like that jagged edge scehem, not seen that before. Lovely job on the spinner.

 

Thanks Bish. 

  • Member since
    July 2019
Posted by Hoss WA on Wednesday, April 7, 2021 10:48 PM

Gamera

Hoss: That is possibly the coolest scheme I've ever seen on a Bf-109. And you're doing a great job with it!!! Yes 

Thanks Gamera. I agree that it's a particularly snappy scheme. Thanks for the comments. 

  • Member since
    July 2019
Posted by Hoss WA on Wednesday, April 7, 2021 10:49 PM

plasticjunkie

Been away for a while so I hope I didn't leave anyone out.

Hoss, love the scalloped  scheme. 

Thanks plasticjunkie. Much appreciated!

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Thursday, April 8, 2021 10:21 AM

I got a little more done. Guess she's a yellow nose at least for now... Wink

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

  • Member since
    July 2019
Posted by Hoss WA on Sunday, April 11, 2021 10:04 PM

My rendition of Rot Dreizehn is now complete. Since the last update, gloss coat and decals, weathering and flat coat were applied along with the final doodads to finish the build. 

I tried Mr. Color GX100 Super Clear for the gloss coat thinned 1:2 with Mr. Color Leveling thinner and really liked it. It dried instantly and was great for the decals and washes, etc. 

Eagle Cal decals were used along with some of the kit decals for various markings and I wasn't 100% happy. They dried with a rough surface texture that I needed to coat and sand down a bit. It may have been that they were about 20 years old but not sure. 

I used my typical Flory dark dirt wash for panel lines and used quite a few pastels and pigments for dust and dirt. 

I used a 1:1 mix of Alclad Matte and Flat to give a sheen a bit more than dead flat and probably applied too much because it took a while to dry. 

Photos showed that the back side of the props were heavily worn but the rest of the machine was well maintained with a nominal amount of dust and dirt, but not alot of chipping and scratching. So that's what I tried to capture. 

Overall, it was a fun kit to build. It's a little more complex and robust than the Eduard Gustav, of which I've built several. Eduard gets the edge in exterior detail but the engine in the Tamiya kit is a nice touch. Add-ons included guns and cannons for the pods and of course the decals. 

Enjoy the photos and thanks for looking!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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