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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 8:40 AM

Yup, just checked his website. He did one in 1/48 and has a nice detail shot of his model on the site. I'll drop him an email.

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gregers

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February 2003
From: UK

Posted by gregers on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 9:52 AM

if i can get my other group builds out of the way (concorde, SAS Landrover(small vehicle gb,EE Lightning NMFgb, Airspeed Horsa d,day gb) i'll be in on this. i have got three model Saab grippens all with prototype markings in o i'll probably do one of those, not sure yet tho so put me down as a possable.
Greg

Why torture yourself when life will do it for you?

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Lucien Harpress

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June 2003
From: A Computer in Adrian, (SE) Michigan.

Posted by Lucien Harpress on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 12:05 PM

Hey, no need to rush! God knows this Group Build will probably be around long enough! (I hope so! I still need to get a project! Dead [xx(]

)

That which does not kill you makes you stranger...

-The Joker

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 1:17 PM

Lucien (Or anyone else who may know the answer to this):
The Me-328 - how does the canopy open? Does it slide back, or does the whole thing open like the Me-163 Komet?

Nearly finished the Me-238 cockpit, painted seat and controls...I used thin masking tape to make harnesses...took a picture of it, but it didn't come out.... Sad [:(]

Lots of interest in this GB...woopee....

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 2:52 PM

Sorry Norite, looked for an hour but I can only find a few of the same pics, all with the canopy closed. Sad [:(]

I have discovered that:
a- there was something called an Me-328
b- it came in three versions
c- their canopies differed somewhat.
d- none survived.
But then, YOU knew that, lol.
Good luck with your research.

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 3:03 PM

LOL, thanks...I've been looking myself...I can see a canopy frame, so I assume that either:
a) the front half is fixed, and that the back half either slides back - Like a spitfire or Hurricane, or

b) it flicks over to one side like a Me-109 Me-163

It's the prototype Me-328 V1 glider

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traveller

Member since
February 2003
From: Towradgi, near the beach!

Posted by traveller on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 8:31 PM

All right you guys, you're on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I've just got to finish a RAAF F-4E, and I have a S-37 Berkut finished, but it needs a repaint, and I've got Su-27 markings for it. I will call it a Su-47 "Fiction" in Ukerainian AF markings. I have not got a digital camera, I will chase one up. This should be fun!!! I just may start my Arado 555, perhaps after I move. Please keep this challange an open ended affair, as it could get quite interesting!!!!!!!!! Tongue [:P]

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 20, 2004 1:40 PM

Just seen the Arado 555...wow....looks *really* cool. Build it! Build it! Build it! Approve [^]

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Lucien Harpress

Member since
June 2003
From: A Computer in Adrian, (SE) Michigan.

Posted by Lucien Harpress on Friday, May 21, 2004 12:32 PM

Yes! Build it! Luft '46 stuff is one of my favorite subjects, and it's something I hoped someone would do when I started this thing!

And about the Me 328 canopy question, I'm here to lend my own opinon.
I have seen pictures of the Me 328 with canopy frames, and if that's kind your doing, I can't help you. However, the version I plan to do is slightly different...

[image]http://modelingmadness.com/scotts/axis/luft/me/328bt.jpg[/image]

This is the kit I plan to use (because of the short-span wings), and as you can see, the canopy is one piece. This could be because of a discrepency with the model company, or it could really be a cockpit version actually used. Whatever the case, you can see it opens (most likely) like the Komet.

P.S.- [image]http://pics.hannants.co.uk/pics/AX05029.jpg[/image]

This is the box top of norite's current project. The canopy arrangement (no frames) is the same. Just pointing it out. Maybe there's a frame on the kit part, I don't know. You're the one with the kit!
My point is, this is how I plan to set mine up.

That which does not kill you makes you stranger...

-The Joker

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 21, 2004 3:37 PM

Nearly finished the Me 328....gotta put the tail planes on....will do that after I've painted it.......Got some piccies, I'll post them soon.

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, May 22, 2004 10:16 AM

Oh yeah, let's see those please! Cool [8D]

Swanny gave me a few good pointers for my cockpit, so I'll be doing some painting tonight.

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, May 22, 2004 7:00 PM

Does a Dornier Do-335 A-1a "pfeil" count for this build?

I'm asking coz I went to the model shop today for some filler, they didn't have any, but I saw this weirdo twin engined plane (Revell, 1:72 scale) with two propellers one at the front and one at the back and got it...oops...couldn't help myself....If it's OK, I'll start it after my Dorny-messy misteltoe build....

It was a prototype, never entered production and it has the distinction of holding the world speed record for the fastest piston-engined plane ever at 775km/h!!!

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 23, 2004 2:27 AM

http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/profile/d335hist.htm#intro

According to this website, you are right. Although some production aircraft were built, they never became operational. To be sompletely on the safe side, you could always go for the paper project for a high-altitude version that was to use a bigger wing.... I suppose Lucien has the final say in this matter, but I won't tell if you don't. Wink [;)]

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ChrisJH666

Member since
January 2004
From: Brisbane Australia

Posted by ChrisJH666 on Sunday, May 23, 2004 3:39 AM

I'm afraid my prototype project is a little lame compared to the others here, but I've got a Typhoon 1B which is gonna be built as the sole night fighter prototype. Unfortunately I can find no information on the cockpit differences, so the only alterations will be a bunch of aerials, drop tanks, and that way cool night fighter scheme in overall med sea grey with green camo. Unfortunately it is some way down the queue so it will be a while yet!!!

In the queue: 1/48 Beech Staggerwing (RAAF), P38 (RAAF), Vultee Vengeance (RAAF), Spitfire Vb (Malta), Spitfire VIII x2 (RAAF), P39 x2 (RAAF), Martin Baltimore (Malta?), Martin Maryland (Malta), Typhoon NF1b, Hellcat x2 (FAA)

Chris

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 23, 2004 10:46 AM

norite,

I have the old Monogram Do 335 1/48 scale kit I was thinking about building for the group build, I want to build the nightfighter version. I also was wandering if this would qualify for this group build.

Matrixone

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Lucien Harpress

Member since
June 2003
From: A Computer in Adrian, (SE) Michigan.

Posted by Lucien Harpress on Sunday, May 23, 2004 12:06 PM

The Do 335 would be a great idea for this Group Build. One of my favorites, actually. It more than qualifies. I don't like putting down a lot of restrictions. I'd rather just let people do their own thing. Good luck everyone on everything!

norite- I'm really hoping for some pics of your progress pretty soon! It would give me some idea on how to do the Me 328 on my as-yet not started project! Big Smile [:D]

That which does not kill you makes you stranger...

-The Joker

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 23, 2004 3:29 PM

Just painted the underbelly of the Me-328....waiting for the paint to dry.....working on the Dornier too....

Setting up my interweb site with my ISP....should have piccies soon! Big Smile [:D]

As for the Do-335....exellente....will get cracking on that when I've finished this it's a good kit...detailed engines and cockpit....still interested in the Blooming Vase 170, but a bit expensive.....
...saw a Bf-109Z Zweeling (two Me-109 airframes nailed together ) at a good price....that's also on my list now....
......hmmmm...must start looking for a trophy cabinet......hmmmmm

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 23, 2004 6:39 PM

More info on the Bf 109Z kit

http://www.aviapress.com/viewonekit.htm?AMO-7215

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 24, 2004 2:58 AM

I would like to say this is some very interesting stuff. I have been away from plane modeling for more then 15 years and just now I am looking to start up again. So far all I have is the starting of my tools and supplies, spending a good chunk of my budget on a new airbrush and a testors compressor. When I left modeling do to family traveling after market detail kits where just really being accepted, now as I research my head is spinning, almost literally with all the options out there. I won't be joining this project but I will certainly watch it, daily maybe ;). I have never seen a group build before and I think it's the COOLEST idea. Please everyone who does this put some Pics where I can see em ;). Thanks for hearing me and I hope to see this thing take off for you all. -Jeff

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 24, 2004 6:00 AM

on the forum, Jeff! Come on, if you're that interested in the subject, you must want to join in, right? Big Smile [:D]

This group build is all about no pressure, so just go for it. As far as pics are concerned, that's a bit of a problem on my side, but I'll borrow a camera in a while. Then I'll shoot my whole collection in one go I guess, lol.

Chris, ain't no such thing as a lame Typhoon! Typhoons rule, and I'd love to see yours when you start building it! Cool [8D]

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 24, 2004 6:16 PM

OK me hearties....me has me interweb site up and running. Pictures of me build, they be lyin' here:

http://www.norite.v21hosting.co.uk/models/models.htm

YARRRR!!!!

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Lucien Harpress

Member since
June 2003
From: A Computer in Adrian, (SE) Michigan.

Posted by Lucien Harpress on Monday, May 24, 2004 6:33 PM

Nice pics, norite! And Jeff, don't worry about the Group Build. You probably know as much about what's going on as I do! Big Smile [:D]

Just find a kit, a camera, and start building! There is absolutly no worries about a time crunch. This is a GB with no finish date. I plan to try and keep this thing going as long as I can. Hey, I don't even have a kit yet! Sad [:(]

Here's a link for Norite. It should help on the Bf 109Z. (If it happens.)
http://www.luft46.com/mess/me109z.html

And the Bv 170. (If THAT ever happens!)
http://www.luft46.com/bv/bvp170.html

I'll put the link to the main page of that site in my signature. For those of you who've been there, you know it's a great site, jam-packed with any kind of Luft '46 information you could think of. Take a look! Browse a while! The site is pretty big! It might give someone an idea!

Go ahead!

(You know you want to!)

That which does not kill you makes you stranger...

-The Joker

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 12:45 PM

More pictures of my big bad build are now online

http://www.norite.v21hosting.co.uk/models/models.htm Cool [8D]

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KJ200

Member since
July 2003
From: Bicester, England

Posted by KJ200 on Friday, May 28, 2004 2:14 AM

Hmmmmm.........very tempting.

I'm just finishing a Ar555, which I'll try and post photos of.

Just thinking of all the Revell & Huma Luft'46 kits in my LHS.

Added to which I am currently working on a Fw190 with Hagelkorn glide bomb, which I think counts as a prototype.

Count me in!!!!

Karl

Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 28, 2004 5:35 AM

Nice slick color scheme on that model of yours, Norite! And welcome aboard Karl Sign - Welcome [#welcome]

.
As far as my efforts are concerned: alas no pics yet. Fit on the XP-55 is not as good as I had hoped. Needed to drill holes, insert pins, superglue, sand, and fill. And that's just for the wing, lol. All should be well in the end though.

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Lucien Harpress

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June 2003
From: A Computer in Adrian, (SE) Michigan.

Posted by Lucien Harpress on Friday, May 28, 2004 11:41 AM

Excellent! New members are always welcome! Sorry to hear about the problems on the XP-55. Good luck on that, though. I don't really know any websites for that aircraft, so I'm of little help, unfortunatly. Disapprove [V]

Keep up the good work!

(Did I spell unfortunatly right? I don't think so.
Hm...)

That which does not kill you makes you stranger...

-The Joker

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 28, 2004 1:43 PM

Thanks for the warm welcome. Sorry but I will just watch this. My first model coming back will be Hasegawa's 1:48 P-51D Kit. I have a question though. Being Typical Jeff about this after 15 years away I want to jump in feet first and hope I hit the deep dark water. I want to buy a detail kit to get my hands wet with those and see that both Verlinden and Eduard have them for this kit. Which is the better of the two in terms of good detail and total of detail throughout the model?

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 28, 2004 4:45 PM

I'm afraid you unfortunately misspelled it, Lucien Big Smile [:D]

. The XP-55 just needs a lot of tlc to go together. It'll be fine in the end. Btw: you are not originally from the USA? Kind of figured Lucien was a french name. Then again I get that a lot too, and I'm not french, lol.

Woodbeck, I gather your name is Jeff? N.p. if you don't want to join in yet. Wish I could help you with first hand experience on those detail sets. I have the Osprey modelling manual on the P-51, and the planes in there use sets from both manufacturers. I don't think you can go wrong either way. Are you going for a nmf? Sounds like my approach: my first kit ever (at the age of 7 or 8) was an Airfix Stirling bomber: the biggest one I could find! Hey, at least there's a challenge, right? Let me know how you get along.

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 28, 2004 11:34 PM

Thanks for the info. Yes my name is Jeff :). I changed my plans. No more Mustang because when I went in today to buy it it was not there, so I went with Hasegawa's 1:48 BF-109g-10. It is a fine model as I look at in its little box here but I am not impressed with its cockpit detail, or lack there-of. But once again Verlinden and Eduard both have sets for this so this will be it.

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Lucien Harpress

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June 2003
From: A Computer in Adrian, (SE) Michigan.

Posted by Lucien Harpress on Sunday, May 30, 2004 11:01 AM

QUOTE: Btw: you are not originally from the USA? Kind of figured Lucien was a french name. Then again I get that a lot too, and I'm not french, lol.

Nope. Been an american all my life. My real name's Mike. "Lucien Harpress" is just a name I pullled out of this twisted head of mine that I thought sounded cool, and I knew that someone probably didn't have already.

Status report for me- I've taken my (very) first step for my own project. Today I got the airbrush cataloge (spelling again? Don't worry. Iee kan't spel veery wel. Big Smile [:D]

) I've been waiting for for a long time! Now, all I need to do is get an airbrush, regulator, water trap, two Ju 290 kits, a Me 328 kit, paint, maybe the German missile set from Condor, and God knows what else!

Now you know why I said I had nothing to start? THAT'S why!

That which does not kill you makes you stranger...

-The Joker

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