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1/144 Takom Landkreuzer P1000 Ratte & Panzer VIII Maus

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1/144 Takom Landkreuzer P1000 Ratte & Panzer VIII Maus
Posted by Gear Head 6 on Wednesday, January 21, 2015 11:44 AM

Given the box art  I'm not certain if this should be on the armor board or the science fiction board.   Not only is this a model of a  massive proposed World War II German tank with a two gun battleship turret , much larger then the two included Maus tanks, the biggest armored vehicles built during the war, but it appears to be getting air support from from three laser (?) firing flying saucers. I'm not Joking.

The Landkreuzer never got beyond the drawing board stage and given its massive size, if  built, would have been hard to get too the wide to get to the battlefield.  There were no roads wide enough or bridges capable of handling the weight of the beast.  Its huge size would make it an obvious target  for air attacks.   

Still I guess there are a lot of hobbyists who will want this kit  as a what if project.  The 1/144th  will keep it from hogging a unreasonable amount of shelf space.

 

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, January 21, 2015 12:36 PM

Thanks for the head's up Gearhead, I had to go look this up..... 

I love the flying saucers, I think the whole thing could be a good example of Hitler's drug-fueled delirium... 

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Posted by JayF on Wednesday, January 21, 2015 3:11 PM

Nice !

I'm beginning to like this Takom company with their unusual models.

At 1/144 scale, about how big this Landkreuzer will be ? How long ?

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Posted by RBaer on Wednesday, January 21, 2015 3:21 PM

I dunno, but it's goofy enough that I may have to break out of comfort zone and build one...

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Posted by goldhammer on Wednesday, January 21, 2015 4:00 PM

Could not find anything on their site except the above pic.....I don't do tracks, but that could be an exception.

The kit # in their site search didn't go anywhere.

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Posted by jibber on Wednesday, January 21, 2015 4:14 PM

Please build this thing, this is one to seeā€¦.

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Posted by goldhammer on Wednesday, January 21, 2015 4:23 PM

Looks like they might be 11 inchers and turret from one of the pocket battle wagons.

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Posted by Real G on Wednesday, January 21, 2015 4:24 PM

The "real" Landkreuzer was supposed to be something like 35 meters, which in Yankee-Speak, works out to 9-1/2" long in 1/144 scale.  A good hefty size for an armor kit.

Wow, the box art has laser-equipped flying saucers.  Get your laser-equipped flying saucers here:

http://www.hlj.com/product/WAVHH-42/Sci

Piccies of what's inside:

qA4Lzi [/url]Haunebu-02 by N. T. Izumi, on Flickr:600:0]

qQehmN [/url]Haunebu-03 by N. T. Izumi, on Flickr:600:0] 

 

 

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Posted by goldhammer on Wednesday, January 21, 2015 4:41 PM

ooooooooohhhhhhhh      5/38 twin mount in a round turret, me likey

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Posted by Real G on Wednesday, January 21, 2015 5:37 PM

goldhammer

ooooooooohhhhhhhh      5/38 twin mount in a round turret, me likey

 
Not flak guns - laser beamsWink
 
Interesting that the flying saucers on the box look a heck of a lot like the Wave kit...
 
Sigh - I guess the Landkreuzer is going to find a spot in my stash.  Nuts, cool stuff keep coming out, no end in sight!

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Posted by SChambers on Wednesday, January 21, 2015 5:51 PM

I love the camo.......are they going to hide it in some bushes ? :P

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, January 21, 2015 5:56 PM

I saw something like that on "Nazi Super Weapons" or something like that. Discovery? History Channel? I can't remember.

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Posted by the doog on Wednesday, January 21, 2015 9:21 PM

Honestly,months the whole thing is rather silly, and I'm a huge German armor fan. Can't say that I'll spend any money on it. It's really more Sci-Fi than anything.

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Posted by Real G on Wednesday, January 21, 2015 9:33 PM

The Landkreuzer is ludicrous, actually.  No place to drive the thing, it would destroy everything in its path wherever it went including friendly areas, and the swath of destruction would make it easy for the swarms of Jabos to track it down and bomb the crap out of it.  How many days would it take to replace a broken track segment?  How many thousands of gallons of (unavailable) fuel would the thing need?  Where would all the material come from?  Totally nuts concept.  But fun for us modelers that like silly things!

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Posted by Jon_a_its on Thursday, January 22, 2015 4:19 AM

Someone Bonkers* is scratch building something similar in 1/35th, like it anyway!

Wink * Bonkers: Brit-speak for barking-mad, but in a good interesting/harmless way

Why did the Germans spend so much time on Bonkers projects?

They thought some of them would work

That Austrian believed/wanted them to work,

& those working on them were exempt from front-line conscription & service.
(apart from the slave-workers conscripted to do the dangerous stuff, obviously!)

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:44 AM

Yeah, I think ultimately you had to either be on drugs, insane or both to be a ranking member of the National Socialist party.  

Someone on another forum talked about building a dio of one of these things stuck in the mud and 150 or so FAMO heavy recovery halftracks trying to pull it out...

Of course maybe one of the flying saucers could use it's tractor beam to pull it out eh??? Alien

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Posted by disastermaster on Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:12 PM

Gamera

Of course maybe one of the flying saucers could use it's tractor beam to pull it out eh??? Alien

                                  This is simpler.
          I use the one I built to destroy russian tanks......
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b232/gluetank/Animated/My%20UFO%201/Tankdestroyer_zpse6ccf474.png

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Posted by the doog on Friday, January 23, 2015 5:48 PM

The word on the street is that these really obscure one-offs are being inspired by the "World of Tanks" phenomenon. I tried playing it; couldn't really get into it. But there are a lot of guys always going for the big bruisers on there and its inspiring some model companies to cater to that crowd.

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Posted by T26E4 on Saturday, January 24, 2015 7:46 AM

The tactical absurdity of this thing is beyond the pale.  You've got two massive main guns -- probably with a range of 25 miles or so.  Thus, it's obviously a moblie heavy arty platform, right?  

WRONG. You mount an 88 on a barbette to defeat enemy AFVs via direct fire -- thus this is some sort of super-tank.  Idiocy in extremis.  I can't even suspend belief and take it seriously as one of those 1946 What If models.  You might as well put butterfly wings on an elefant and call it a glider.

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Posted by goldhammer on Saturday, January 24, 2015 10:44 AM

They did...it was called F-104 StarfighterWhistlingWhistling

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Posted by the doog on Saturday, January 24, 2015 12:05 PM

T26E4

The tactical absurdity of this thing is beyond the pale.  You've got two massive main guns -- probably with a range of 25 miles or so.  Thus, it's obviously a moblie heavy arty platform, right?  

WRONG. You mount an 88 on a barbette to defeat enemy AFVs via direct fire -- thus this is some sort of super-tank.  Idiocy in extremis.  I can't even suspend belief and take it seriously as one of those 1946 What If models.  You might as well put butterfly wings on an elefant and call it a glider.

I totally agree, Roy!

You know what's funny as hell? The serious---and I mean serious--- discussions taking place on some forums and even Facebook about the technical aspects and viability of this thing. Feelings getting hurt, people really getting defensive about it. I have to laugh!

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Posted by Gamera on Saturday, January 24, 2015 5:00 PM

I'm wondering if those 88s were meant for air defense- though considering a 'tank' the size of a city block you could probably bomb the thing with B-17s, B-24s, and Lancasters from high altitude....

DM: I think your flying saucer and death ray frankly makes more sense than the Ratt!

Karl: Lol the Ratt isn't in WoT, it would probably take up a quarter of the map just by itself! The Maus is and it's funny that while the Germans get crazy paper projects like it the other factions get Cold War hardware. I'd think in real life the Maus wouldn't last too long against M48s and T-62s. I think you're right about WoT inspiring some of the oddball stuff though, I think the Soviet SPG you're building is in there as well as the M103, Conqueror, and a few others.

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Posted by T26E4 on Sunday, January 25, 2015 8:15 AM

@Doog --- that is really really funny!  You gotta wonder if those geniuses have ever even planned a simple home project like replacing floor tiles or a kitchen counter.  Right there, you know that you plan for the tools and materials needed for the job.  Having 28cm guns with an  11 mile bombardment range to face what?  Maybe coastal defense.  But that's it.  But the idiocy to make it mobile and then to arm it as if it were going to skirmish other AFVs --- mind boggling.

common sense seems to be absent in those debates for sure.

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Posted by M. Brindos on Sunday, January 25, 2015 3:45 PM

If I remember correctly (feel free to correct me) they were intended to be mobile fortresses. I don't think there was much tactical value to them. Just a huge giant to park behind a hill and smash things with.

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Posted by the doog on Monday, January 26, 2015 9:01 AM

I agree, Roy! And what's with the flying saucers in the box art?!?

Also, it bears mentioning that these things were never actually even built up to wooden mockups or the like. Just imagination on a piece of paper. Kinda like som of the Pentagon's more ridiculous "weapons" ideas. (Remember that "Gay gas"?!) And yet here we have model companies producing them as serious proposals. I'm all for imaginative modelling, but at some point I have to choose exactly what I have room for in my display cases!

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