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An ongoing model review of the Skif T-80UD, by a rank amateur

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An ongoing model review of the Skif T-80UD, by a rank amateur
Posted by CarnivourousDonut on Saturday, February 28, 2015 8:16 PM

Hi Gang,

At my first model convention I picked up, among other things, a Skif t-80UD, full of aftermarket parts in both resin and metal, and I though I'd do a review here of it as I am working on it.

First and foremost, I'm a rank amateur, and by no means a rivet counter. I build models for the sheer enjoyment of it, and wouldn't know if the kit is accurate or not if the real thing ran over me. I am probably more forgiving of inaccuracies than most, so long as the kit goes together well, with a minimum of putty/scratchbuilding because, as I've mentioned, I suck I'm an amateur.

So with that in mind, allow me to start of:

For starters, the tank in question is really badly photoshopped onto the front of the box, onto/partially into, some sand with mountains in the background. I suppose it's meant to be Afghanistan or someplace equally dry, but it's kind of laughable, something that belongs on the pages of "photoshop disasters", but nevermind.

Inside the box there is a metal gun from "Model Point", and in comparison to the plastic two piece of the kit, is longer, but oddly, has less detail on it. It's also in two pieces. Unsure how I'm going to glue those together just yet.

Next up, is a bag of wheels from "MR Modellbau", cast in tan. Doing a quick compare to the Skif wheels, I don't see much difference in detail or thickness, so I may skip using them on this model.

Another bag of mixed resin and metal parts from "MR Models" (I assume the same company as above, their logo looks the same)  consisting of some metal track links, which are poorly formed, 2 oil drum barrels, also partially incomplete, a pair of....well I'm not sure, sleeping bags perhaps? rolled up netting? They look okay.Some vision ports attached to a big honking resin cash. Gonna be a trick to cut them off without breaking them. One half of a commander's hatch. This part has some nice detail both inside and out, and I hope I can use it. Two pieces, a flat oval and a round...air port, or something. Unsure where these go right now. A heavy resin block with three unidentified parts on it 4 metal oil drum holders which look very nice and I plan on using them, and finally a metal searchlight perhaps, or part of the machine gun. Dunno.

Two bags full of resin parts, One set of what looks to be radiators and M60-style searchlights and the other bag full of reactive armour and...that long tube that typically you see on the back of the turret on soviet tanks.

Last resin piece is the turret. It's not even remotely the same shape as the Skif supplied one, so I'm not sure it's for this kit. Not to mention it's got everything I associate with resin, air holes, unformed parts, huge attached casting blocks, uneven finish, it's a mess. Will probably dump that.

The model kit itself is moulded of some weird mint-green plastic that doesn't cut off the sprue it's attached to, so much as it breaks off. I have a feeling this is going to bite me in the butt later on in the build, but so far when I try to cut the parts off, the break from the sprue is clean. Haven't encountered any flash yet upon my looking over of the trees, but I have run across the occasional mis-aligned part that needs some sanding down.

Speaking of sanding, the parts sand well so far, and the mould lines scrape off easily. But the weirdest thing about this plastic (if that's what it is) is my Model Master liquid glue (which I use for all my kits, as it's slow drying and allows me to correct mistakes) bonds like superglue with this stuff. You get about 3 seconds before the parts are held fast and won't budge. A fact I've already discovered with a tow hook that got slightly mis-aligned when I put it on. Fortunately it's a lower tow hook in the back, so it shouldn't be real visible once completed, but it does serve as a reminder to be extra careful.

The details of the parts look "thick", not like the fine ones I see on Dragon or Tamiya kits, but they aren't soft like Monogram tanks or Revell stuff, just thick. Given it's a Soviet tank, this may well be on purpose. The instructions are hand drawn, or at least look it, but are clear enough to figure out without difficulty. At the back of the instructions are no less than four different camouflage options, along with a single set of decals for either Russian or Polish service. At the very last set of camo options, are the words "Autodesk Mechanical Desktop" Still looks hand drawn to me.

Anyway, pics of the parts when my camera is charged up. Any questions/comments/etc are always appreciated.

Cheers!

Tags: review , SKIF , T-80

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Posted by CarnivourousDonut on Sunday, March 1, 2015 10:22 AM

As you can see above, this is some of the resin parts that were included with the kit. I have no idea what they are supposed to represent, but they are not well formed, and probably won't be used.

This is the wheel sprue. As you can see, the back part of the wheels are attached to the sprue overlapping the wheel part. This will have to be cut and sanded. Fortunately it's the back half and won't show. The suspension arms show no detail whatsoever, although I don't know if that's accurate or not.

Here is the metal gun barrel compared to the plastic one. I have no idea which one is the right version, but the plastic one has more detail on it.

Piles of unknown resin and metal bits. The resin is very poorly formed, with the exception of the commander's hatch. The metal is better, but the tracks are warped/bent. Probably can be salvaged.

The two turrets for comparison. This shot makes the resin one look much better than it really is, the sides and bottom of it are a mess. Oddly, they are about the same size.

Tags: SKIF , review , t-80ud

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Posted by SprueOne on Sunday, March 1, 2015 10:48 AM

I share a similar kit build approach as you. Usually OOB and little knowledge (in the beginning) of accuracies and versions, etc. I just like the subject on the box art and go with that. 

SKIF kits are an interesting learning experience. I just finished three T-55 kits by this company. 

I'll be poppin in here and checkin this out 

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Posted by CarnivourousDonut on Sunday, March 1, 2015 6:21 PM

Hi SO-

Yes I followed your 3 kit build, highly impressive work, mine won't be narly that good.. My kit doesn't say "Skif" on it, rather the Ukrainian letters are used, and I had to google a bit to find out. No words in the instructions and the intro is in very broken english. I started with the wheels, and they aren't too bad to build, on par (ease of building mind you) with Tamiya, though there aren't any guide pins on how they fit together, so a bit of care needs to be taken.

Just before dinner I started assembling the chassis and right off, the instructions are vague. Fortunately, some test kitting showed how the torsion bars and springs were supposed to fit, so that's one problem down, but it would easily confuse a novice builder.

Let's rattle the cage, crack the machine. Let 'em know who you are, shine to be seen.

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Posted by CarnivourousDonut on Tuesday, March 3, 2015 8:57 PM

Well the kit has already caught me out. The directions for the wheels and suspension are vague to the point of being useless, and I put two suspension rockers the wrong way round. Since the glue bonds like crazy, it was too late to fix once I realized my mistake. As it stands, the wheels and side skirts will cover this up, but it still irritates me. And the weird way the plastic cuts off the sprue has also nearly caught me out, but I've been more careful about that.

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Posted by Vladimir on Wednesday, March 4, 2015 2:38 AM

I red that some modellers mix Zvezda's T-80ud and SKIF's T-80ud. zvezda has wrong wheels but parts   fit good.

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Posted by garzonh on Wednesday, March 4, 2015 6:57 AM

Hi,

So you are an "amateur" and you provide a lot of information and details on the kit and differences?...then Im at kindergarden level... I'll keep an eye on this thread.

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, March 4, 2015 7:53 AM

Wow, she does look kinda on the rough side. Still, always good to learn new techniques on something like this. If you can build this a Dragon or Tamiya kit will be a snap!

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Posted by RBaer on Wednesday, March 4, 2015 11:12 AM

There oughta be a disclaimer on SKIF boxes, something like "abandon hope all ye who enter here".....

Too bad about all the resin stuff, I've had a similar experience with resin inside an ESCI T55, bought at a "smokin' good price". I think it may end up as a derelict one day.

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Posted by Utoshita on Wednesday, March 4, 2015 11:35 AM

Dear CD,

This looks like an interesting build.

I would put the resin tower in the spare parts box and use the SKIF original one.

With Kind Regards

Utoshita

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Posted by CarnivourousDonut on Thursday, March 5, 2015 1:33 PM

Yes it was a purchase that came with all the resin stuff included (in other words, I didn't buy it extra) and it was a whopping 10$, so I figured what the heck. I am putting all the info I can into the review (what good is a review otherwise?) so perhaps others can learn from my experience with it.

I will work more on it this weekend and post pictures. I'm on the chassis right now.

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Posted by SprueOne on Thursday, March 5, 2015 9:12 PM

Yeah, keep going Yes

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Posted by CarnivourousDonut on Saturday, March 7, 2015 5:39 PM

"Abandon all hope, ye who enter here"

This is an excellent line for Skif.

The following will come off like a rant, but it's not really. More of a puzzler.

Case in point: The ERA comes in great big slabs that don't fit properly, without drilling holes and cutting some pins. Okay, fair enough, easily done. There are "lights" (at least I assume they are lights, there are wires leading up to them) that are so poorly moulded they could be electric bread for all I can tell.

But the machine gun consists of 16 parts, but all 1 instruction, so you get to figure out which parts have to go first, before the rest can go. So nothing can be glued together just yet, until I figure out the puzzle.

I have yet to start on the other sets of wheels because I'm getting irritated by the instructions that are so vague they might as well have been created by Dali.

So I'm going to post pics later, and go work on something else for the rest of the weekend,

Let's rattle the cage, crack the machine. Let 'em know who you are, shine to be seen.

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