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CJ-5
Posted by ikar01 on Thursday, August 27, 2015 8:08 PM

Does anyone make a model of a CJ-5 jeep?  It would have to have standard tires instead of those big bulky ones and prefferably a hard top option.

 

Most squadron commanders on our base in S.E.A. used them and sometimes we were given a couple to fill in while our 151s were in motorpool.  They were uncomfortable, hard to get in and out of with a web belt radio and ammo and if you sat in the passenger seat there was always the risk of the seat leaving the vehicle during a sharp turn.  But I needone for my A.F. Security Police collection.

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Posted by HeavyArty on Thursday, August 27, 2015 8:17 PM

The military version of the CJ-5 was the M38A1 jeep.  AFV Club does a very nice model of one.  They have both the standard M38A1 and an M38A1C which mounts a 106mm recoilless rifle.  There is no soft or hard top available for them.

If you want to convert it back to a civilian CJ-5, Accurate Armour makes a conversion set since the IDF used civilian ones.

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Posted by ikar01 on Saturday, August 29, 2015 7:35 AM

Thanks for the info.  Since the A.F. used the civilian versions  I'll follow your advice and get the  conversion kit too.

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Saturday, August 29, 2015 10:20 AM

Monogram made a "Mork and Mindy" 1/24 CJ-7 that sounds like it's really a CJ-5.

OOP and expensive, no roof.

 

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Posted by HeavyArty on Saturday, August 29, 2015 4:33 PM

GMorrison
Monogram made a "Mork and Mindy" 1/24 CJ-7 that sounds like it's really a CJ-5.

Nope, the 1/24 Monogram CJ-7 is a CJ-7 with the longer door opening.  The CJ-5 had a curved door opening since it was a shorter body.

CJ-5/M38A1

CJ-7

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Posted by richs26 on Saturday, August 29, 2015 5:18 PM

Another thing too, is that in 1972 the CJ-5 hood, fenders, and cowl were stretched 5 inches, and the wheelbase went from 80" to 83".  I believe that any of the 1/24/25 kits are based on the 72+ models so they would not be accurate scale wise for a 55-71 CJ-5.

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, August 31, 2015 12:02 AM

What a mess that Mono kit looks to be. Yes I can see, there's no filler on the side and the door opening is not a CJ-5. But it's not really too much like the other one either. If anyone had that kit, what's the actual wheelbase?

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Posted by richs26 on Monday, August 31, 2015 1:15 AM

GMorrison

What a mess that Mono kit looks to be. Yes I can see, there's no filler on the side and the door opening is not a CJ-5. But it's not really too much like the other one either. If anyone had that kit, what's the actual wheelbase?

 

It is a CJ-7 with the square door opening.  The CJ-7 has a 93" WB whereas the old CJ-5 was 80, and the newer was 83".  In 1972 with the new body, AMC also changed the the gas filler but left the indentation.

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Posted by amphib on Monday, August 31, 2015 5:26 AM

One of my tours of duty in the Navy was on the staff of Naval Beach Group 2 in Little Creek, Virginia. We had around six M38 jeeps and I was assigned one for driving around the base and over to the main Naval base at Norfolk. They were the same as HeavyArty posted picture except they had a winch mounted behind the fron bumper and of course were painted Haze Gray.

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, August 31, 2015 1:14 PM

So here's an obs. and I'll leave it at that. The Monogram looks to me like it has a shorter wheel base than 93". But it sort of has a CJ-7 door opening. I wonder if they took a CJ-5 chassis from some older kit and made up a CJ-7 ish body to get to the subject?

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Posted by RBaer on Monday, August 31, 2015 2:47 PM

I think they used a CJ-5 body mold and just re-did the door opening to make it resemble the CJ-7.

Which is Ed Zachary what you just said, G.  Big Smile

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, August 31, 2015 3:53 PM

Maybe they used the molds from the Daisy Duke Jeep by AMT...

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Posted by HeavyArty on Monday, August 31, 2015 4:38 PM

I doubt it.  AMTs was an actual CJ-5 and pretty accurate.

I think Monogram just hosed up the shape of the door opening.  The rest of the profile is correct for a CJ-7 (longer front fender behind the front wheel, longer in the door area, correct line around the back area, etc.).

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, August 31, 2015 5:34 PM

There you go, Ikar

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