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  • Member since
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  • From: Honolulu, Hawaii
Tamiyaleri M107
Posted by Real G on Monday, November 18, 2019 12:06 PM

At the Armor Modeler Anonymous meeting:  "Hello, I am Real G and I am a serial starter."  Embarrassed

I just can't stay out of trouble even for one minute.  I knew full well that the Tamiya M107 was the fairly old Italeri kit, and that 30 years ago their Bundeswehr M110 kicked my butt and it went to the dumpster.  And I knew that the reissued kit still had rubber band tracks, and that Tamiya was pretty lazy and just tossed in an unrelated figure set along with a sprue with fold-up cots and stuff.  And yet here I am filling in dozens of ejector pin marks and scraping down heavy mold seams.

I suppose I like beating myself up with crummy kits.  But still, it's like when your parents tell you that suffering builds character...  But I wanted a rematch, and this time I was determined to avoid the sloppy mistakes I made with the previous kit.  Yes, this is a modeling skill builder exercise.

So anyway, I thought about how I could tamper with the kit.  The suspension arms are separate, and the gun barrel is loooooooooong, and a quick dive into the internet revealed that the real M107 did sag in the front like an early Hetzer.  I trimmed the locator pins to allow the arms to be repositioned to lower the front hull to simulate the weight of the barrel.

It's not so obvious with the tracks and wheels on, but it may be that the tracks thow off the look.  I have a metal aftermarket track set heading my way, so hopefully it will help.

OK back to the stuff I'm supposed to be working on.

 

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Monday, November 18, 2019 12:26 PM

Looks good so far. I remember that kit from the late 80s. The tracks were the worst though.

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  • From: USA
Posted by keavdog on Monday, November 18, 2019 12:29 PM

Suffering through problematic kits - does build character.  What a cool subject though.  Looks like you've got a handle on the issues.  Suspension mod looks great.

Thanks,

John

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    May 2011
  • From: Honolulu, Hawaii
Posted by Real G on Monday, November 18, 2019 4:07 PM

Yeah, it's a tough kit.  But I have seen some outstandng builds (of which mine will NOT be one of them).  Still, that super long barrel makes the M107 stand out in a crowd.

Now only if Tamiya had made new dedicated figures for their reboxing.

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    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Thursday, November 21, 2019 7:50 PM

Very cool G! As always it's really neat to see something a little different like this.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Honolulu, Hawaii
Posted by Real G on Wednesday, November 27, 2019 2:54 PM

The terror continues.  The road wheels are REALLY low friction, so the model rolled off the box when I tried to move it.  Of course it had to land upside down, directly on the only fragile bit on the hull!  The impact fractured one of the seat supports and sent it flying into regions unknown, and the other support got a nice "S" bend.  Grrrr.  Super Angry

I have to admit this kit gives the builder their money's worth when it comes to skill building.  The hole for the gun barrel is out of round, and the plastic is thick, making it difficult to neatly ream out the hole. There is also an alignment slot which has no purpose, as the gun barrel lacks any tabs.  The easy solution is to savagely file down the mating area on the gun barrel until it is lopsided like the opening.  I used a tag off the sprue to fill in the alignment slot, as it is still visible after the barrel is in place.

I am exercising more care assembling the kit compared to the last time, so some things are turning out better like the hull joints.  Not perfect, but easy to deal with.

Anyway, filling and sanding continues.  Whoo, look at all those misaligned molds - gonna be fun, fun fun!

 

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, November 27, 2019 8:45 PM

She may be an old kit but you're making a good show with her G!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: USA
Posted by keavdog on Wednesday, November 27, 2019 10:29 PM

Coming along. Misaligned molds make for a bear of a kit.  Looking forward to paint as I'm sure you are.

Thanks,

John

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Posted by BrandonK on Thursday, November 28, 2019 11:29 AM

I wouldn't know a good armor kit from bad at this point. I watch in wonder as you guys take these and make them look real. Looks like you are well on your way on this one.

BK

On the bench: Alot !

On Deck: Alot more !

 

  • Member since
    May 2011
  • From: Honolulu, Hawaii
Posted by Real G on Monday, December 2, 2019 4:38 PM

Still hammering away at the awful fit, but making progress.

The big event last week was the arrival of the metal track set from China.  They look good and match the sprocket teeth.  The coil of steel wire provided to link the tracks is, well steel, so is hard and is of a heavier gauge compared to Friul sets.

I'll source substitute copper or brass wire.

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, December 3, 2019 10:05 AM

That looks good! The metal tracks look really nice but look a real pain to put together. The only ones I've done are some for a IJA Type 95 and they were a friggin' pain- esp how small they were. These at least are bigger!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Honolulu, Hawaii
Posted by Real G on Tuesday, December 3, 2019 2:35 PM

Gamera,

Nah they are not so bad.  Like you said, they are large.  The really horrifyingly tedious ones are the kind with separate end connectors plus a middle connector with separate guide tooth, AND individual track pads.

I hear you about teeny tracks like those found on Japanese WW II tanks.  I have a Modelkasten set of plastic tracks for a Type 3 tank, and it is driving me batty.  Gluing the little end pins without cementing the tracks solid is tricky.

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    October 2018
Posted by PGBolt on Tuesday, December 10, 2019 3:53 PM

I wandered over here from my M110A2 thread. Coincidentally, I was about to ask you about suspension sag. On aircraft models, a lot of times the kit landing gear is molded almost fully extended, and the plane looks weird. Your description and photos are very insightful.

Here's a photo of the one we have. It looks like the effect is even more pronounced since the Detroit engine has been removed.

Hmm... Image problems. Stand by.

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    May 2011
  • From: Honolulu, Hawaii
Posted by Real G on Wednesday, December 11, 2019 12:36 PM

PGBolt,

Oh, hey I just had a brain fart.  If you can take photos of the folding bench seat, that would help me rebuild the suppports I destroyed.  I figured Italeri molded the parts for ease of assembly rather than authenticity, so if I have to make new ones, they may as well be more accurate.  TIA

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    October 2018
Posted by PGBolt on Thursday, December 12, 2019 11:57 AM

Sure thing. I'll be at the Post Friday night for our Canteen Christmas party. I'll see if the photos come out OK with phone flash. If not, I'll run up there Saturday.

Glad to help.

  • Member since
    October 2019
  • From: new Braunfels, Texas
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Thursday, December 12, 2019 12:37 PM

Hi;

 Have you heard of the German " Dicker Max"? This too is a self propelled gun. This is the only model I put FruilModel tracks on. Boy did it add weight to it. Talk about realistic sag. 

    Putting them together was a challenge, But, when I remembered how " Cat" tracks went together It became easier!

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