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Dragon 1/35 Panther Ausf. D w/zimmerit #232 - * Build Log *

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  • From: Rugby, England
Posted by Hinksy on Wednesday, May 12, 2010 6:58 AM

Hey Scott,

Superb Blog Sir! If your building is as good as your blogging then this should turn out a fine beast!

The next WIP kit in my stash (I'll be starting her approx early June) is the Dragon Panther G with Zim. I've got a few aftermarket bits, barrel, Fruils etc and looking at the build guide it seems that there will be a LOT of helpful information that I can carry over from this BLOG onto my Panther G.

Keep us posted buddy,

ATVB

Ben Yes 

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Posted by hughes2682 on Tuesday, May 11, 2010 7:24 PM

Scott,

I am glad to see that you went with the PE travel lock chain.  It looks fantastic and it will look even better when you get it painted up and weathered.  I used the PE chain on a Panther I did last year and what a difference that small detail makes.  Keep up the good work.  Still looking forward to more.

Cheers

Dave

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Posted by New Hampshire on Tuesday, May 11, 2010 6:10 PM

To paraphrase Col. Kilgore "I love the smell of PE in the morning." Big Smile  That is some fine work you have going on.  Keep the wee ebastie going you animal!

Brian

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Posted by wbill76 on Tuesday, May 11, 2010 6:03 PM

Looking good Scott, coming along nicely. Beer

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Posted by Pvt Mutt on Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:53 PM

Yes Sir Ree that's some fine bloggin my man.Toast

Tony LeeSmile

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Posted by the doog on Tuesday, May 11, 2010 2:16 PM

Scott, I have to say, honestly, that you are setting a new standard for blogs/WIPs here with your use of directions postings and corresponding well-presented, captioned photos! An excellent idea!

The model itself looks up to master-standard!

I have to say alkso, that the chain for the travel lock is awesome looking! In looking at it, I have to shake my head and say "Why can't/WON'T Tamiya do some righteous dirt bike models using that PE chain technology to give us PE drive chains too?!:" It really looks "real"!

Great job all around here, Scott!

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Posted by detailfreak on Tuesday, May 11, 2010 2:05 PM

Looks like there are many P.E. improvements to this dragon kit.Is there a complete main gun assembly,magic tracks? Been over in the ships forum looking at your work,looks great

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Posted by espins1 on Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:52 PM

Here is my latest update on Dragon's 1/35 Panther Ausf. D w/zimmerit.

I decided to go with the optional PE chain parts for the gun travel lock.  You can model yours with the gun in the gun travel lock and in the closed position, or stowed in the open position which I have chosen to do.  The PE chain is comprised of 6 layers that get sandwiched together.  Then simply cut off the plastic chain on the gun travel lock and install the replacement PE parts.

  

 

I opted to use the PE parts for the engine filter.  There are 4 layers which get sandwiched together, two rings on the bottom, a ring with a mesh screen in the middle, then the top ring with the bolt detail on top.  The plastic part is solid., so as you can see from the photos the PE option looks much better and the mesh can be seen through.  I recently switched from using CA glue to Gator glue.  I find the Gator glue so much easier and less messy to work with than CA glue and it's much more forgiving.   
        

 

The turret assembly is pretty straight forward.  The gun mantlet assembly is engineered to allow the gun barrel to raise and lower in elevation.  There are two "home plate" shaped parts that you have to carefully hold with the hinge pin slotted in the mittle, then just apply the glue to the outer sides of the two parts and slide the whole assembly into the front mantlet. 
 


There are metal tow hooks which get locked into place using the plastic pins.  So far I have elected to leave off much of the delicate detail parts such as the tool racks to minimize the chance of damaging the parts while handling the hull as the larger pieces and assemblies are attached.  Once all the major assemblies are complete I will get to work on the fun PE details.

Scott Espin - IPMS Reno High Rollers  Geeked My Reviews 

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Posted by espins1 on Sunday, May 9, 2010 7:44 PM

Thanks Kirk and Rob.  I can't wait for the Nationals, barring any unforseen circumstances I plan on being there.  Smile

Scott Espin - IPMS Reno High Rollers  Geeked My Reviews 

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Posted by smokinguns3 on Wednesday, May 5, 2010 12:39 AM
Scotty,Scotty,Scotty what are you building now LOL looks good keep up the good work hope to see you at the natinals in august.
Rob I think i can I think i can
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Posted by hedorah59 on Tuesday, May 4, 2010 10:19 PM

Alright! Another great build to follow along with! Beer

Though I don't have this kit, it is one I will eventually pick up.

Kirk

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Posted by espins1 on Tuesday, May 4, 2010 5:20 PM

Dave - Thanks!  There are going to be a lot more pictures soon so the dial-up guys are really going to hate me.  LOL  Some of those pictures I pulled from the AJ Press Tankpower series on the Panther (either 5 or 8 volumes, if memory serves correctly) and some from some old Concord books I have.  Several others were sent to me by an armor forum buddy a while back from a French Magazine.  Those pics are worth their weight in gold my friend!   Geeked

Tony - hey buddy, I'm back at it again!  I kinda got derailed when I had my knee surgery and for whatever reason I've had some of my favorite projects just languishing on my staging table.  I feel like I have my mojo back so it should be a productive year!  Eats

Nate - Thanks!  I'll have another big update soon.  Geeked

Bill - Ya, armor is still my nuero uno passion!  Feels good to be back at it.  Cool

Brian - gotta love zim, one of these days I'm going to have to get brave enough to try making my own!  Whistling

Redleg12 - Good to be back my friend!  I have lots of other armor projects in the works, it's going to be a good year!

Anthony - sorry amigo, I had several big builds in progress then they all just languished on my staging table.  I hope to not ever do that again... lol

Manny - LOL  Wink

Tigerman - Good to be back, although I'm going to keep building ships too.  I have a USS Hornet in progress with Doolittle B-25s on board and am about halfway done with my SMS Konig. 

Shoot and Scoot - Not to worry my friend.  The exhausts didn't have the splitter to begin with so I simply bored them out and will add the splitters a little further along in the process.  Good catch!  Smile

 

 

Scott Espin - IPMS Reno High Rollers  Geeked My Reviews 

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Posted by shoot&scoot on Monday, May 3, 2010 12:09 AM

Great build so far!  I'm working on a blasted out early A w/o zim so I'll be keeping an eye on this project.  Noticed on your exhaust pipes that you omitted the splitter/diffusers that run horizontally in the opennings.  You can kind of see them in the photos you posted.  If you did add them or your particular prototype doesn't have them, then ignore this blithering.  Keep up the good work!

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Posted by tigerman on Sunday, May 2, 2010 8:54 PM

Well if you weren't so busy working on your boat..........Wink

Good to see you back where you belong Scott. Great subject too. Yes

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 Eric 

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 2, 2010 6:41 PM

Yummy, field-applied zimmerit!

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Posted by Tojo72 on Sunday, May 2, 2010 6:31 PM

I remember when you started this one,I said to myself I'll follow along with Scott as he builds his,and I will definitly learn something while I build mine.Well that didn't work out Big Smile I finished mine awhile ago and it came out pretty good,but I still look foward to seeing yours thru as I know you will do a great job.looking foward to following along once again Toast

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Posted by redleg12 on Sunday, May 2, 2010 4:33 PM

Scott - Great to have you back.....too many of the old timers fage away.....it is great to have you fade back in.

Very nice detail!!

Rounds Complete!!

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Posted by New Hampshire on Sunday, May 2, 2010 3:27 PM

Zimmy zimmy coco puff, zimmy zimmy pie!  Looking good! Big Smile

Brian

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, May 2, 2010 3:20 PM

Nice to see you back at work in the armor department Scott! Beer

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Posted by Nachtflieger on Sunday, May 2, 2010 2:37 PM

Oh boy, this is gonna be fun to watch!!!!

Nate

 

 

 

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Posted by espins1 on Sunday, May 2, 2010 2:30 PM

LOL  I should have put a warning about all the pics, I'd better warn Dupes as well.  LOL

I've been busy playing around wtih ships for a while, getting back into all my armor projects again.  Big Smile

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Posted by Pvt Mutt on Sunday, May 2, 2010 2:16 PM

ESpins espins  I think i've seen that name somewhere before. Anybody else recall seeing it before????Big Smile

Tony leeSmile

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Posted by hughes2682 on Sunday, May 2, 2010 2:14 PM

Scott,

The dial-up folks have got to hate you for this one.Big Smile  I have got a soft spot for these big cats.  I am liking what you got going here.  You have a good eye for the wee detail.  A fine example is the cosmetic surgery you did on the rear hull.  Those field pics were exquisite, where ever did you find them?  I am looking forward to following along on this build.

Cheers

Dave

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Dragon 1/35 Panther Ausf. D w/zimmerit #232 - * Build Log *
Posted by espins1 on Sunday, May 2, 2010 2:03 PM

Hey guys, I've resurrected a project I started up two years ago.  I did a review if this kit a while back which you can find here if you're interested.   

Panther D w/zimmerit In-Box Review

 

 

 



I found the markings in the kit a bit boring, so I picked up the excellent Echelon decal set ATX351009 which features markings for various Panther Ausf. D and a couple for the Ausf. A. Included are some gorgeous markings featuring red, black or white snarling Panther heads with Pz.Abt. 51 and Pz.Abt. 52 around the time of Operation Zitadelle. One of these days I'll do one of those schemes, although it will have to be on an early Ausf. D without zimmerit.   


For this build, I have decided to go with:

* Panther #232, 2nd Company, 15 Pz.Rgt., 11 Pz. Div.

I like the camo scheme and I have some good reference photos of this specific vehicle.

 

 

 



Construction begins with the running gear and lower hull.



The suspension arms have been attached, as well as the final drive housings and other runner gear components. So far it's been a very easy build with no fit problems, however the locating pin located on the back of the fatter end of the final drive housings needed to be removed because there is no corresponding locating hole for it on the hull.



For those that plan on building this kit, be aware that the suspension arms 2nd from the front and 2nd from the rear are supposed to have that raised seam on them running down the middle. Also note that those components are beefier than the rest of the suspension arms.

Once I got them all attached I lined them up by resting just the ends of the arms on the edge of my workbench while simultaneously putting a stiff straight ruler on the top half so they would line up correctly as they set. Because some of the arms are thicker than the others you can't use the tried and true method of just setting the kit flat on the table as the thicker ones will wind up with the axle slightly above and out of alignment with the rest of the arms. Make sense?

I will be using the "template method" to spray the road wheels. First they will be painted a mix of flat black with a touch of gray to simulate the slightly faded look that the rubber gets from exposure to sun and the elements. Using a drafting template with various sized circles on it I find the hole that best matches the size of the metal road wheel portion and use that as a mask to spray the base coat. I will document the process with photos when I get to the painting stage of the build. In the mean time, the wheels have been cleaned up and are ready for painting.

 

 

 

 

 

As you can see in steps 5 and 6, some modifications need to be made to the exhausts and the jack if you decide to go with the photo etch option included in the kit. 



First up are the exhausts. The grooves in the pipes needed to be filled and the excess plastic on the back needed to be removed. The modifications are necessary to remove anything relating to the plastic brackets in order to use the the photo etch brackets provided in the kit and to get them to fit properly. I carefully trimmed off the plastic on the backs, then filled the groove with squadron white putty.











Then came the jack modifications. I carefully cut away the plastic brackets using a #11 blade, then carefully sanded everything smooth.









The drive sprockets look great, as do the idlers. There are two different sprocket caps included in the kit. The more recessed cap appears on earlier variants of the Panther Ausf. D. Be sure to check your references carefully to be sure you're using the correct cap for the vehicle you're modeling. The vehicle I'm modeling features the later sprocket cap with the weld seam going around it.



This work session was all about the exhausts, PE exhaust brackets and the modifications necessary to accommodate the PE parts.

As you can see in the 2nd and 3rd photos the plastic bolts and attachment points are directly in the way of the PE bracket mounts. This is not mentioned in the directions, so another ding on Dragon for less than complete instructions. They will need to be removed and the attachment holes for the plastic brackets filled before attaching the PE.











I carefully filed away the raised detail using the flat side of a needle file. Once the surface was almost flat I switched out to a medium then a fine sanding stick.





I filled the attachment guide holes with small little pegs made from stretched sprue. These were then carefully sanded down using sanding sticks.









Here is a shot of the "test fit" of the PE brackets and the exhausts.





The exausts ends were just shallow cones and didn't look very realistic at all, so I drilled them out using various needle files.





The exhaust brackets were super glued in place.





Then the exhausts were attached to the rear hull plate.







There are two more small PE exhaust brackets that need to be curved, bended then put in place to clamp the exhausts to the exhaust bracket mount which I plan to take care of during my next build session.

I did some research to ensure I had the brackets installed properly.  The following 4 scans are from the excellent Panzer Tracts book 5-1 Panzerkampfwagen “Panther” Ausführung D created by Thomas L. Jentz and Hilary L Doyle. I recently reviewed this excellent reference which you can read about here if you're interested. It is a great resource for the kind of information you're looking for.






As you can see, the jack brackets attach to the bolts which secure the exhausts to the rear plate. Because the attachment points are pre-molded, it looks like we'll need to slice off the two bolts on each attachment point, file down the plastic, attach the PE bracket, then re-attach the bolts. It is going to be tricky now matter how you look at it. 
After I got the jack brackets assembled I did some test fitting etc. I think what I'm going to do is shorten the part of the bracket that attaches to the plastic attachment point so that I can glue it behind the tab. There is a pocket of space there so if I glue it to the back of the tab, the rest of the bracket will fold forward and for all intents and purposes the PE parts will be roughly flush with the plastic part. That should put everything in the right place and the jack will prevent you from seeing that little "shortcut". Make sense?

Scott Espin - IPMS Reno High Rollers  Geeked My Reviews 

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