Face Mask ?

No need to go to Ebay, you can get these things at Home Depot or Lowe's-

thats not over kill at all.. I work with Hydrofluoric acid at my job and use one rated for acid vapors.. by osha regulations  we have to change them out every three months if they need it or not so I use the old one for painting at home. the filters will last a long time but i would still change it out at least every 5 months or so

Should it be any help, I bought mine on e-bay from

3M Respirator 6200 6001 7 Piece Set Painting Spraying Fac... (180950433353)

Member id chinatibet . They also carry all the spares.

Another site on e-bay worth a look is airbrushsupplyonline , excellent service and its British...cheers....Kenny

Bish

 ... Shows how observant i am.

 thats why we model and not do brain surgery 

Thing is i have had the site saved in my favorites since i came across it about 6 months ago. And i have been reading Milairjunkies posts for ages. I just never put 2 and 2 together. Shows how observant i am.

Bish

Hence your signature How could i miss that. Thanks for the advice.

Your not alone Bish I just followed your link and didn't catch Milairjunkies sig either

Milairjunkie sorry, got caugh tup in your good  info.

Hence your signature How could i miss that. Thanks for the advice.

It's my site, so I "use" it just about every waking hour...........

Yes, the 5925's can be used by themselves (with platforms & retainers) for sanding / particulate only work. The 6051's will clog pretty quickly when being used by themselves & are not designed for particulates as such, so I would suggest a particulate pre-filter like the 5925.

Either filter alone is better than nothing, but for optimum protection & filter life when spray painting, you really need both in combination.

Regards 6000 or 7500, the main difference is comfort - the 7500 is slightly more flexible than the 6000 & will seal with slightly less tension on it.

I take it you use this site as well. And sorry to bombard you with questions, but reading your earlier post, am i right in thinking the 5925's can be used seperatly for sanding etc. And would they need to be added to the 6051's when painting, or can the 6051's be used on their own.

I am planning on getting mine at the end of next Sept, so hopefully they will be in. And i was going to go for the 7500 mask, better safe than sorry.

Bish, the round 5925's can only be used as standalone particulate filters, not with the 6051's - for an organic vapour/gas + particulate combination you would need the 5925's.

I'm reliably informed that the 5925's will be back in stock early-mid next week

Milair, thats some great advice there. Myself, i was just going to get the mask and the 6051's. The site i am planning on useing has those 603' and 501' but only has pre filters in the same shape. Are they sutable.

This is the page with all the stuff on it. It has particulate filters, but they are round.

www.air-craft.net/.../Respirators-Masks.html

A bit late to the party here, but I can't believe how cheap these are - retailed from China at cheaper than some UK trade prices......

A combination organic vapour/gas & particulate filter are recommended for adequate protection for any type of regular spray painting (even with water based acrylics), so what you are looking at is spot on for the job. When you come to replace the 6001 filters, you won't find these in the UK - 6051's are the norm (the 5N11's will be 5925's).

It's also worth considering getting a set of 603 pre-filter platforms, these allow the particulate filters to be fitted directly to the mask under the 501 retainers - it gives you a particulate only mask when you need one (sanding, resin, other stuff) & helps prolong the life of the more expensive organic vapour/gas filters.

Thanks to everyone who replied.

I can buy cheaper but they are not brand names and no guarantee for spares.

This one is a brand name and spares are available...cheers....Kenny  

DUSTER

Kenny

Another point often over looked with masks:

store them in a clean container (ie plastic bag ), when not in use. 

If you just hang them up over your bench or on a corner of the paint booth, the abundant air, with any and all bits of stuff and vapors floating in it, will work through the filters and  cause them to be less functional in a shorter amount of time

-filter life span = more filters adding to the $$, or ££. in your case

The idea is, the mask is for you to wear, not to filter  the general air in the room.

an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure

Now thats something i never thought of. I just leave mine in a draw.

Hi Spacepacker,

the old saying is so true, you are better off safe then sorry.

I was careless yesterday and suffer today, only 15 minutes without proper ventilation (acrylics) but it made my old edema kick in again.

The mask looks good quality, just follow the advice already given and change the filter regularly.

Very Best Regards

Johan

Kenny

Another point often over looked with masks:

store them in a clean container (ie plastic bag ), when not in use. 

If you just hang them up over your bench or on a corner of the paint booth, the abundant air, with any and all bits of stuff and vapors floating in it, will work through the filters and  cause them to be less functional in a shorter amount of time

-filter life span = more filters adding to the $$, or ££. in your case

The idea is, the mask is for you to wear, not to filter  the general air in the room.

an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure

Mask and the hobby.

The mask needs to perform two tasks, both PM10, particulates and general VOC. If you use acrylic, there is very low need of VOC but unless you have a good extractor paint booth, you will be exposed to small paint particles.

If you use lacquers or enamels, those have stronger solvents. Enamels use Mineral Spirits, a mix of Stoddard solvents and the worst is lacquers which use Lacquer Thinner which is a mix of Methyl Ethyl Keytone and Methyl Isobutyl Keytone, both strong solvents.

That sweet smell of Tamiya paint is a touch of Lacquer Thinner!!

The other good use for the mask is working with resin. When cutting or sanding resin parts which makes very fine dust in large quantities, the mask is very useful.

As far as changing the cartridges, you should always have a spare. Unless you are a heavy lacquer user, you are most likely to need changes due to dust and particulates.

HTH

Rounds Complete!!  

" NIOSH VAPOR RESPIRATOR."

Go to the 3M website & read up about the specs of the filters, You need one rated for VOC's Volatile Organic chemicals, & you will need to replace the carts regularly. (check you can find a supplier, then post here where).

Be interested to know if this is rubber or synthetic, as I have probs with latex products...

This VOC rating 'might' be overkill but better too much than not enough. Spraying acrylics isn't nice to your lungs, so then you are also OK to spray, enamels, cellulose, etc.

Yup, what everyone else is saying. Good product at a good price.

Same type of mask I wear when airbrushing...or even working at the bench with the lacquer-based stuff. Much of what we use in the hobby is toxic without proper ventilation and I wear the mask even when working with an extractor spray booth that vents to the outside. Just make sure you periodically change out the cartridges (depending on use/exposure) and get one that's a comfortable size so you can adjust it.

I have seen the same one on a site for £15, so the price is good. I had considered that one but have decided to go for the next one up, the 7500. Maybe overkill, but my lungs are damaged enough throgh smoking, they don't need any more abuse.

I have a very similar one from 3M.  It works very well.  I cannot detect any smell of what I'm spraying when I wear it, which means it is doing its job and stopping the fumes / vapors from getting through.  It also has a layer of dust partical filter that snaps on top of the vapor filters.  Make sure the specs say it's a NIOSH VAPOR RESPIRATOR.

I wear it no matter what I am spraying-acrylics, enamel, laquers, thinners, whatever.  The last poster is right- once you get that stuff in your lungs, it never comes out.

I use the same one for all kinds of paint. It fits well and does not fog up my glasses like others did. I have noticed a huge difference in the way my nose fells after airbrushing.

I decided to go for "overkill" since it is hard to regrow lung tissue.

Tojo72, Yes it is for paint!.

EasyMike, I will be using Acrylic mixed with water but I might try Turpentine; not sure yet...cheers....Kenny

Overkill.  What type of paint do you intend to use?

I can't read the specs on it,but you need to be sure that it is rated for paint,not just dust