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Ersatz M10 1/35 Dragon model tank
Posted by Scarecrow Joe on Saturday, July 18, 2015 2:45 PM

Im thinking of doing a WIP here so I get feedback and opinions as Im going with this one. This is my first tank since I built an Abrahams?(not sure of the name) tank made by Monogram in the 80's...

This is were I am right now...

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See you in the next posts!Big Smile

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Posted by GMorrison on Saturday, July 18, 2015 2:50 PM

That's the Panther, right? A funny subject but hey go for it.

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Posted by Scarecrow Joe on Saturday, July 18, 2015 3:11 PM

Yeah a disguised Panther to make it look like the M10...those crazy germans!

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, July 18, 2015 3:39 PM

We have had a couple of these built recently. Those newer Dragon panther kits are a dream. I have built a Panther G and Jagdpanther in the past year and my only regret is wasting money on AM for them. I still need to get this kit though. Will be watching this one.

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Posted by Tojo72 on Saturday, July 18, 2015 4:15 PM

Enjoy,as Bish says,those Dragon Panthers build up nice,and the American markings will make it diffrent.

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Posted by KnightTemplar5150 on Saturday, July 18, 2015 4:53 PM
It seems to me that you have been playing with ideas about this build for a few months now, Joe. It's always fun to see how someone's vision evolve from idea to reality, particularly when they come from an imaginative and resourceful builder such as yourself. Looking forward to seeing how things progress!
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Posted by Scarecrow Joe on Saturday, July 18, 2015 8:17 PM

Thanks for the kind comments guys!

And now, more wheels!!

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Its a wonderfully made kit. The parts fit extremely well and the detail is just excellent.

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Posted by the doog on Monday, July 20, 2015 4:46 PM

I did one on here a few years ago. FSM bought the article, and I'm still waiting fr it to be published. It builds up pretty straightforwardly. You may want to leave the turret side armor loose until after you paint it. It is tough to get the paint behind those if you glue them on. That's what I did.

You can check out my build and finishing blog below if you're interested. Might give you some ideas.

M10 Panther

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Posted by jersey66 on Monday, July 20, 2015 4:58 PM
Been wanting one of these kits so I'll be keeping an eye on this build.
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Posted by tigerman on Tuesday, July 21, 2015 2:21 AM

Definitely goes under something "different" from the usual topics. Should be fun to watch built up.

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 Eric 

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Posted by Scarecrow Joe on Friday, July 24, 2015 3:52 PM

These parts were tricky to figure out.  The instructions are very goo but it takes time ti decipher it.

They will not be seen, right? I cleaned each one nevertheless. Im not sure of what paint to use here.  Would it be olive drab, or just black...

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Posted by Bish on Friday, July 24, 2015 4:14 PM

ye, those are tricky to figure out. To be honest, they are a bit OTT and are not even needed unless you showing the vehicle completely open. But I did ad all of them on my Jagdpanther, but I didn't spend any time painting them.

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Posted by GMorrison on Friday, July 24, 2015 4:37 PM

Probably primer red. Seems like a good add to the spares box for some other more useful time.

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Posted by the doog on Friday, July 24, 2015 4:44 PM

Don't even worry about those. As Bish said, unless you're going to keep hatches open and are are honestly worried about what some judge may say in a contest, paint the whole interior black, and you'll be fine.

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Posted by Scarecrow Joe on Friday, July 24, 2015 5:44 PM

Thanks guys!

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Posted by T26E4 on Sunday, July 26, 2015 7:57 AM

Joe: I agree with the others --- what I've found is my momentum for any project is limited.  I would DEFINITELY not spend time cleaning up those torsion rods or adding a single drop of paint to them.  I'm building the same kit as a simple diversion from some extremely complex builds.

You don't want to have your project stall out b/c you've gotten bored with it b/c you spent too much of your free modeling time on bits that don't matter.  I'd say spend time to ensure that the turret shell is correctly aligned.  That's going to take lots of energy.

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Posted by Scarecrow Joe on Sunday, July 26, 2015 12:15 PM

I will that part alone.

Just primered the first parts. The primer color is very close to olive drab.

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Next is installing all those wheels.....still a lot to do!

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Posted by Scarecrow Joe on Sunday, July 26, 2015 6:50 PM

Made some progress in the paint department.  Thought of going airbrush but decided on the hairy stick itself.  I think this would give a good basecoat for later shading with the airbrush, gloss coat, washes, clear matte coat, etc, etc....

Looks brand new!

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Think it look decent for hand brushing! Smile

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Posted by T26E4 on Monday, July 27, 2015 6:38 AM

Hey Joe: May I make a suggestion?  Preview the instructions to avoid adding primer to parts that will be glued to other parts.  I'm thinking of the sponson floors (parts C48 & C49).  Personally, I'm holding off on primering until the entire model is built -- except for the inside surfaces of the mock turret shell.

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, July 27, 2015 8:13 AM

Since the kit doesn't come with any interior other than the gun breech I didn't paint the torsion bars on mine either. Just closed all the hatches.

Roy is right, you'll have to scrape some paint off to get a good cement bond. Not a big issue but a little more work for you.

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Posted by SoD Stitch on Monday, July 27, 2015 2:30 PM

I am in the process of building one of those, too, and GWilliams is probably right; the torsion bars are probably just primer red (brown?), although I painted mine Gunmetal (wartime pictures I've seen of torsion bars being installed on a Tiger show them to be a dark grey/black; it's hard to tell in black & white photos, but I assume they're covered in some sort of a protective coating, either grease or maybe a German version of cosmoline?).

I also painted my radiators steel because a.) the pictures I've seen of tank radiators (specifically, the radiator shrouds on Tiger 131 at Bovington) show them being left unpainted, and b.) it gives a bit of a contrast to the overall OD finish of the Ersatz M10.

However, I got hung up on the tracks; I've never done link-and-length track before, so it's taking me a while to get over the intimidation factor (plus, I'm still learning how to attach them effectively). With any luck, I might actually finish it this year!

1/48th Monogram A-37 Dragonfly: 95% (so close!); 1/35th Academy UH-60L: 90%; 1/35th Dragon "Ersatz" M10: 75%; 1/35th DML E-100 Super Heavy Tank: 100%; 1/48 YF-12A, 95%; 1/48 U-2R: 90%; 1/48 B-58 Hustler: 50%; 1/32 F-117, 50%; 1/48 Rafale M: 50%; 1/48 F-105D: 75%; 1/48 SOS A-1H Skyraider: 50%; 1/48th Hobby Boss Su-27: 50%; 1/16th Revell Lamborghini Countach: 75%; 1/12th Otaki Lamborghini Countach: 25%; Tamiya 1/35th M3 Bradley Cavalry Fighting Vehicle: 25%

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, July 30, 2015 11:27 AM

Toadman has a pile of interior photos of a Panther ripped apart for restoration on his site. They helped me a great deal with painting of my kit. 

LINK

SoD, I hate the 'fiddly bits' tracks but mine went together without any major issues. 

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, July 30, 2015 11:41 AM

Nice link, Gamera. That brings back some memories. Littlefield was a client of mine and later a neighbor.

The Panther was taken out for a test the night that Jacques died in 2009.

www.youtube.com/watch

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, July 30, 2015 12:22 PM

NP, GM I bumbled across his site by accident and thought I'd pass it on. His site was one of the few I could find good photos of the Type 74 I posted here a few months ago as well. I really need to buy a couple of his photo CDs or otherwise contribute to his operation considering how much I've made use of his photos.

Ouch, I didn't know about Jacques passing away. Beautiful restoration job, I hope someone does something similar with the Panther found in the German guy's cellar too.

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Posted by Scarecrow Joe on Saturday, September 12, 2015 8:24 PM

Progress has ben slow but I started installing the wheels. I gave them some dry brushing and slight weathering.  Since I have not done any tank since I was a teenager Im not following the usual order the seasoned guys do.  Im going by insiticnt here but I hope the final result will be a decent one!

 

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Posted by Panzer Joe on Tuesday, April 17, 2018 4:28 AM

I know this post is kinda old, but what would be some good workable Panther tracks? Friul is a bit expensive for me

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