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Help identifying unknown old kits
Posted by Ironfalcon on Friday, April 06, 2018 1:29 PM

Hi everybody
I just got some very old kits I would like to repair and put them again in good shape.
However, some of them are unknown for me, Can someone help me identifying them through the attached pictures?
Many thanks in advance,
Henrique
Picture 1
 
Picture 2
 
Picture 3
 
Picture 4
 
Let's see if it works now...
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Posted by GMorrison on Friday, April 06, 2018 1:37 PM

I can't see your pictures, Henrique.

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Posted by Ironfalcon on Wednesday, April 18, 2018 12:24 PM

Sorry,

However I cannot insert them, only by Copy /Paste and then they disapeared...

 

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Posted by goldhammer on Wednesday, April 18, 2018 12:28 PM

Ironfalcon

Sorry,

However I cannot insert them, only by Copy /Paste and then they disapeared...

 

 

If you are trying to put them up from your computer, they won't take.  Have to use a 3rd party site like Flikr, PB, ImageShack, etc.

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, April 18, 2018 12:28 PM

OK, the basic issue is that you can't paste images on this site. It kills their bandwidth. You need to paste a link to the image stored somewhere else.

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Posted by Ironfalcon on Wednesday, April 18, 2018 12:34 PM

Thanks for your clarification.

Just add links to Dropbox in my original post.

Tell me if it works.

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Posted by goldhammer on Wednesday, April 18, 2018 12:47 PM

Links work for me, but can't help with identification, sorry, just not an armor guy.

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Posted by KnightTemplar5150 on Wednesday, April 18, 2018 1:21 PM

Without installing the Dropbox app, I can only see a very tiny thumbnail photo on my phone that stays open for two seconds before it closes out and is replaced by an advertisement. But, it looked to me like you have a M551 Sheridan, a Stug III, a Jagdpanzer IV, and a M113 FSV in the photos, but two seconds really isn't that much time to get a good look at a photo that is 3/4" x 3/4" in size.

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, April 18, 2018 1:35 PM

The last one does look like the Tamiya M113 Fire Support Vehicle.

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Posted by hogfanfs on Wednesday, April 18, 2018 1:48 PM

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 Bruce

 

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, April 18, 2018 1:55 PM

KT is correct the third one is the Jagdpanzer IV "Lang". That's probably also the old Tamiya kit, but I wouldn't know.

The first one is a weird toy.

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, April 18, 2018 2:07 PM

Can you shine a flashlight down one of the open hatches? There might be a label on the inside lower plate. 

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Posted by Pawel on Wednesday, April 18, 2018 2:34 PM

Hello!

The last one, looking like a mini-Sherman is an M113 with the Saladin Turret - I believe Tamiya offered one like that:

Hope it helps - have a nice day

PaweĊ‚

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, April 18, 2018 5:15 PM

The first one....sorta...looks like an AMX 30 missing it's gun. From your grid that would be 1/72 scale. Heller made one, but it isn't all that crude. And the commanders cupola is a little more involved. But whoever put this together was doing sloppy work, so who knows.

The second one is a Stug 3. I'd guess it's Tamiya. The main gun is either broken or glued in crookedly.

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Posted by PFJN on Wednesday, April 18, 2018 5:34 PM

Hi,

The 2nd one looks like it could be some sort of Stug III variant, similar perhaps to one of these;

Armor2

As others have pointed out, the last one looks like maybe an M113 with an upgraded turret (perhaps like the one listed with an FSV turret at this link )

M113

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Posted by PFJN on Wednesday, April 18, 2018 5:39 PM

Hi,

The 3rd one looks like it might be some sort of Jagpanzer IV like shown below

JP IV

 

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Posted by KnightTemplar5150 on Wednesday, April 18, 2018 6:32 PM

GMorrison

The first one....sorta...looks like an AMX 30 missing it's gun. From your grid that would be 1/72 scale. Heller made one, but it isn't all that crude. And the commanders cupola is a little more involved. But whoever put this together was doing sloppy work, so who knows.

 

I had to break out the laptop to get a better peek at things and I think that you're right about this one being an AMX 30. With the view that I had, all that I could make out in two seconds was the short barrel and what I mistook to be a spotlight like you would find on the M551. But, with a more stable view, I see a great deal more than my phone would allow. Definitely not a Sheridan, but some of the details are really strange looking. It might be the old Heller kit from '82 (?) 

For everyone who is having problems seeing the rest of the OP's photos, here you go:

Stug III - GMorrison's right again. That casemate for the gun is far from centered.

Jagdpanzer IV missing a few parts.

M113 FSV, again missing parts.

Hope this helps the OP out!

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Posted by PFJN on Wednesday, April 18, 2018 8:28 PM

Hi,

Looking more closely at the 1st image, I believe that it may be an Otaki 1/48 scale AMX-30 model.  Specifically, in looking at Scalemates and other sites on the internet, the 1/72 scale and 1/35 scale AMX-30 models from Heller (as well as the 1/35 scale model from Meng) appear to have round "air vents" on the aft upper deck of the hull, while the picture from the OP shows a square one.

This site on the internet appears to size a rectangular vent on the Otaki model.  In addition some small hatches on the upper hull sides, the "ribs" just aft of the headlights, and the shape of the front of the turret also appear to match the OPs photo. 

Regards

Pat

 

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, April 18, 2018 9:28 PM

Interesting, there are a LOT of AMX 30 models on Scalemates.

I'm pretty sure that this one is 1/72. His grid shows it around 130 mm long. Multiply that by 72 and you get 9.36 M, which is pretty close to the actual length.

Those horrible storage baskets remind me of the ones on the Heller 1/35 AMX 13.

Those ribs on the fender are pretty weird.

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Posted by Ironfalcon on Wednesday, April 25, 2018 5:38 AM
Hello again guys, Thank you very much for all your help. All kits are 1/35 except the Jagdpanzer IV which is 1/72. Checking inside and out the conclusions are: An AMX30 The M113 is from Tamiya The Stug III is from Banday and the turret is not glue that's why looks off center Now is my job to try to fx them as they really are in very bad shape Again, thank's for all your help Henrique
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Posted by HeavyArty on Wednesday, April 25, 2018 7:04 AM

They look pretty rough and missing lots of parts.  Personally, I would trash them and start over with new kits.  To each their own though.

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Wednesday, April 25, 2018 10:37 AM

HeavyArty

They look pretty rough and missing lots of parts.  Personally, I would trash them and start over with new kits.  To each their own though.

 

Probably more of a nostalgia issue. I've rebuilt old kits from my youth. Some of these former glue bombs hold a place in my heart. Old Renwal M50 Ontos, Tamiya M4A3E8 (one of my first Tamiya kits), Aurora MBT70, Monogram M48A2 (rebuilt this one when I was still in college).

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, April 25, 2018 10:47 AM

What a mess this thing was.

But it is a $ 50 kit, so I think it's worth a try.

To the OP- I'd probably start fresh unless you have the missing parts in a box.

The AMX is garbage, the two german subjects are ok but you'll end up buying a second kit each to get the parts. The last model is a toss as the subject is kind of unusual, but a new kit can be had for less than $ 30.00.

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