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1:72 RT-2PM Topol ICBM by Zvezda - WIP

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  • Member since
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  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Tuesday, January 01, 2019 3:32 PM

Hello everybody!

armornut, Gamera - thanks a lot for your suggestions, I thought about them while trying to work out my own way. It took me the whole December, but at last here's the update:

First I would like to say that in the model you actually have to reverse the order present in the real thing - I mean normally you have a green vehicle and you put spots of different colours on it. On the model you start with the spots by masking them and then you put the "base" colour last.

To get some coherent results I have created a plan in CorelDraw to have something to hold on to. I actually only had a not so clear YouTube video (this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtcquzZydXs) to work with, and it only shows the machine from one side. No other photos of this camo scheme are available, so I used my artistic licence. What I actually did was to take the patterns from one side, reverse them and put them on the other side, with modifications where necessary.

I have also noiced that people painting the camo were very practical - they carefully avoided painting on the highest surfaces, on complicated features and so on.

And so I started by putting on the first colour - black, or in this case actually the dark grey, Humbrol 32:

1:72 Zvezda RT-2PM Topol by Pawel

1:72 Zvezda RT-2PM Topol by Pawel

As you can see the masking is already on, and I have also masked the window seals, let's see how this turns out. I'm mainly using Tamiya tape cut up in 2mm squares. In places I have already painted patches of brown, where this is better to mask before next colour. And the next colour is sand, Humbrol 121:

1:72 Zvezda RT-2PM Topol by Pawel

1:72 Zvezda RT-2PM Topol by Pawel

The masking is already there on the above photos and the next colour is Brown, Humbrol 113:

1:72 Zvezda RT-2PM Topol by Pawel

1:72 Zvezda RT-2PM Topol by Pawel

The final colour took some matching but I have finally settled on Humbrol 149. I don't know why they went with this untypically green colour, but that's just how the video shows it. And finally the thrilling moment - removing the masks... Bada bim, bada boom:

1:72 Zvezda RT-2PM Topol by Pawel

1:72 Zvezda RT-2PM Topol by Pawel

I'm glad to say this didn't turn out so bad - a few touchups here and there will be necessary, but the painting IMO nicely conveys the spirit of the original, so I'm glad.

Now I'll try to concentrate on details and put it all together.

Thanks for looking and have a nice day

Paweł

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Posted by armornut on Tuesday, January 01, 2019 4:09 PM

     I owe you the thanks Pawel, your visualisation of how the camo was applied, of course your pix help too, show me an easier way to achive the pattern I'm looking for. Man that is AWESOME....now to find where I hid my Scud. LOL

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, January 01, 2019 10:01 PM

Looks pretty friggin perfect to me. I have no idea when I'll get around to masking the ZTZ-99 but I'll be looking at what you've done here for an example for sure.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Wednesday, January 02, 2019 2:03 PM

armornut, Gamera - thanks a lot for your comments and for your kind words! If my posts here could help you in any way then it makes me very happy! Good luck with your modelling projects and have a nice day

Paweł

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  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Sunday, March 03, 2019 5:22 PM

Hello!

It took a lot of time, but I have finally managed to pigment the wheels and dirty up the undercarriage to look a bit like my reference, using pigments, but also Humbrol paint applied by airbrush. Dry fitting everything resulted in the pictures that can be seen below:

1:72 Zvezda RT-2PM Topol by Pawel

1:72 Zvezda RT-2PM Topol by Pawel

The thing that really slowed me down was the gyroscope - or the "elefant's foot" like some people call it. This part was top secret for a long time and couldn't be photographed. Now that good photos of it turned up on the net, it can be seen, that Zvezda took a major shortcut here. While in the raised position one could let it pass, in the lowered position like I want to show it, it's unacceptable for me. Let's look at some pictures - first the part out of the box (well almost) with some instructions for it:

1:72 Zvezda RT-2PM Topol by Pawel

The real thing looks like this:

 

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Now something's got to be done about it...

Thanks for looking and have a nice day

Paweł

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Sunday, March 03, 2019 9:24 PM

Oh wow, looks fantastic!!!

And that gyroscope- seriously simplified! Looking forward to seeing how you correct it.

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Posted by Pawel on Monday, March 04, 2019 2:11 PM

Thanks a lot for your comment and for your kind words! I decided to make a 3D printed part for the gyroscope - this way I can also hopefully help other people building the Topol and not only help myself. Let's see how this turns out. Thanks again and have a nice day

Paweł

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Posted by armornut on Monday, March 04, 2019 11:46 PM

 That has to be an older tech gimbled mech gyro, putting it on the ground must give it a reference. Keep it up Pawel, me....still waiting for the 35th. Like what ya got so far.

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  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Tuesday, March 05, 2019 12:56 PM

Hello!

Thanks a lot for your comment and for your kind words! Interesting remark about that gyro - sure must be an interesting piece of technology. Let's see when your 1/35 design shows up! Have a nice day

Paweł

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Posted by Pawel on Friday, March 15, 2019 4:41 PM

Hello!

I have managed to draw up that gyro in 3D. I was surprised by the speed I got my part - not even a week after uploading the model I was holding the part in my hands. I've just painted it with Tamiya grey primer - without it it's really hard to photograph it -and marked the sprues (to be cut off) red. And here are the photos:

1:72 Zvezda RT-2PM Topol by Pawel

1:72 Zvezda RT-2PM Topol by Pawel

1:72 Zvezda RT-2PM Topol by Pawel

Now I have to detail my baby a little with wire and paint it right colour.

Should anybody want a copy, it's available here:

https://www.shapeways.com/product/GSLQBKMQD/1-72-correct-gyroscope-for-the-ss-25-topol-launche

So what do you say? Thanks for looking and have a nice day

Paweł

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Posted by Rambo on Friday, March 15, 2019 6:35 PM
Wow great job on designing that Pawel! 1000x better looking then the kit part.

Clint

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Posted by Gamera on Saturday, March 16, 2019 12:09 PM

Yeah, a BIG improvement there!

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Posted by Est.1961 on Saturday, March 16, 2019 12:44 PM

A huge difference very realistic compared to the kit part. Love following along thanks for posting.

Joe

 

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Posted by Pawel on Sunday, March 17, 2019 2:12 PM

Hello!

Clint, Gamera, Joe - thanks a lot for your comments and for your kind words!

For now I did some cleanup of the part an I'm adding a few more wires to it - stuff that couldn't be reliably printed. After that I'll start painting it.

Thanks again and have a nice day!

Paweł

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Posted by Pawel on Wednesday, March 27, 2019 3:55 PM

Hello!

I've got my gyro detailed with copper and lead wire, painted up and installed. I'm pleased to report, that it fits just fine. Also, a little sanding now and then and two layers of Tamiya spray primer took care of the "grain" left by the printer. The front right corner of the truck now looks like this:

1:72 Zvezda RT-2PM Topol by Pawel

Thanks for looking and have a nice day!

Paweł

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, March 27, 2019 9:06 PM

Cool, the wiring looks good, super nice work!

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Posted by armornut on Thursday, March 28, 2019 9:26 PM

 Now that is a real nice gyro ya got there Pawel, I must agree with the others above. HUGE improvement over the kit.

       Could be awhile for the 35th....gotta pay for my new pickup.

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Posted by Pawel on Friday, March 29, 2019 5:38 PM

Gamera, armornut - thanks a lot for your comments and for your kind words! I'm glad I could improve my model and the computers have made it a lot easier - at the research phase, but also at the design and manufacturing phase. The really cool thing, though, is I can easily share my design with all people interested in it!

Now I'm working on the cabin doors - lots of detail there!

Thanks again and have a nice day

Paweł

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  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Monday, April 15, 2019 4:59 PM

Hello!

And here are the doors, like I wrote you. The kit from the Crosshair Models not oly gives you tiny details like the door handles, but also some decals (also tiny) - makes for a nice looking subassembly:

1:72 Zvezda RT-2PM Topol by Pawel

Like you can see on the photo, I have secured the part for detailing by fixing it to a popsicle stick with a piece of masking tape folded to form a "pipe" with the sticky side out. Makes for a very handy handle.

Now there are only the last tiny details left!

Thanks for looking and have a nice day!

Paweł

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Posted by armornut on Monday, April 15, 2019 8:19 PM

You are an ambisious fellow Pawel, that is some amazing detail your putting in....especially in 72nd. Just a curiosity why do the Russians paint thier interiors such wierd colors. Love your Topol none the less.

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Posted by Pawel on Tuesday, April 16, 2019 4:01 PM

armornut - thanks a lot for your kind words! I'm trying my best. Like they say - a model worth building is worth building it well!

As for the colour we're talking rocket forces here, so they are related to the air force and use similar colours. But why are they so funny? I've read that while the west universally went for grey to make the work of the people inside more comfortable (non distracting, neutral colour), the Soviet air force decided to make the colour slightly mood altering, hence the green tone (optimism, hope) - sounds funny but that's the only explanation I have found online. Maybe someone has a better one?

Thanks for reading and have a nice day

Paweł

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  • From: Northeast WA State
Posted by armornut on Tuesday, April 16, 2019 4:06 PM

   Thanks for the info Pawel, makes sense when ya think about it. OR they did it to give model builders fits trying to match LOL. HAPPY MODELLING good sir.

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, April 17, 2019 11:30 AM

Oh wow, that's some crazy detail on such a tiny door. Nice work again! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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