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Two quick questions...
Posted by ogreb on Monday, September 24, 2018 8:52 PM

Did I overdo the rear deck on this tank ? Kinda looks like a shag rug monster threw up all over it. I'm kinda hoping the final oil wash will tone it down. Don't really want to redo it. Kinda want to get the diorama done....but I'm kinda A N A L.

And can you see any color on the Stug ? I swear I keep seeing blue.

I don't know if this is really possible. I'll keep trying. I know the white looks really weird on it but this an effect as when I am close to done I'm going to spatter it white.

This will give it a slightly grainy effect. Like an old school B and W. Not bad but not perfect.I plan on doing this to whole diorama.

The trees are whats really kiiling me...can't see the difference in leaf color anymore...it's all a blur.

Thanks for feedback in advance.

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, September 24, 2018 9:01 PM

The tank looks great, dry brushing is nicely done.

I think the stowage is a bit loose,  but the foilage is good.

^The dio with the troops looks nice, I would like to see more angles.

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Posted by ogreb on Monday, September 24, 2018 9:34 PM

GMorrison

The tank looks great, dry brushing is nicely done.

I think the stowage is a bit loose,  but the foilage is good.

^The dio with the troops looks nice, I would like to see more angles.

 

Stowage ? You mean the gas cans and bags ? Yeah need to tighten that up. Especially the bags. Ugh. Thought I could just hang the gas cans with metal hooks. Rope would probably look better though.

As for foilage. You mean the rag and rope camo ? The Tiger has real foilage ( leaves handpunched from real leaves ) I was going to give the Stuart leaf camo but 2 on one diorama seemes excessive. Besides it's a pain...so I went with the simple rope and rag.

Anyway here are a couple of pics of said diorama.

And could you see any color in the Stug or is just me ? It's for a diorama that's going to be totally done in B and W. Color...bad! And I keep seeing blue now.

I did order an HD camera...so soon no more awful cell phone pics.

 

 

 

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Saturday, September 29, 2018 4:06 PM

The Stuart looks great. I wouldn’t change anything. As for the color of the Stug yea it looks bluish but it may be the lighting and camera settings. As an example I have photographed something in light grey but in the picture looks dark grey. 

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, September 29, 2018 4:44 PM

Rags & ropes, was not a common US armor method of camo, if ever used at all. The Brits used something similar (hessian netting), but US tank crews usually used foliage branches. Some units had “summerfield matting”, a type of chicken wire, attached to the hull and turret for just that purpose. And the glacis plate would be one of the first areas to be covered, especially that white star. Painted out, covered in mud, whatever. We had air superiority and marauding Luftwaffe aircraft in the daytime was rarely an issue. But concealment from the front and flanks at ground level was a priority.

 

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Posted by ogreb on Sunday, September 30, 2018 10:50 PM

stikpusher

Rags & ropes, was not a common US armor method of camo, if ever used at all. The Brits used something similar (hessian netting), but US tank crews usually used foliage branches. Some units had “summerfield matting”, a type of chicken wire, attached to the hull and turret for just that purpose. And the glacis plate would be one of the first areas to be covered, especially that white star. Painted out, covered in mud, whatever. We had air superiority and marauding Luftwaffe aircraft in the daytime was rarely an issue. But concealment from the front and flanks at ground level was a priority.

 

Yeah I figured it was a British thing. Also seen it the Pacific. Due to how fast cotton rotted. Rip up old t shirts etc.

I'll just pretend it was done for the Americans by  a bored British AA unit.

It was the easiest to do one handed . 

Don't usually camo small tanks. Making scale leaf is tedious. But I wanted to butch him a little for his scrap with the Tiger. ( Which has scale leaf camo )

Give him camo, chains and a few scars etc...

Peace

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Posted by ogreb on Sunday, September 30, 2018 10:56 PM

plasticjunkie

The Stuart looks great. I wouldn’t change anything. As for the color of the Stug yea it looks bluish but it may be the lighting and camera settings. As an example I have photographed something in light grey but in the picture looks dark grey. 

 

It's driving me nuts...I swear I keep seeing a shale blue on the Stug.

Could be lighting or my eyes just bugging out.

I'm doing a diorama ( pine trees, crew etc ) in Black and White.

Hopeful a final oil wash will fix it.

Thanks for answering that....thought I was going crazy.

Mixed all the paints myself...know I didn't any blue.

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Posted by Pawel on Monday, October 01, 2018 1:57 AM

ogreb
I didn't any blue.

Hello!

You didn't have to. Or should I say maybe you did, but unknowingly? What I mean is you never know how the black is formulated, it might have a blue component in it that normally is invisible because the colour is so dark.

I have once mixed black paint with sand coloured paint. What do you guess that got as a result? Olive green as pretty as can be, that's what. I was really surprised. Mixing black and white often results in blueish gray. Mixing some yellow paint in might help you.

It can also be that they mixed in some blue in the white to help the yellowing of the white paint. Colour are a funny thing!

Good luck with your build and have a nice day

PaweĊ‚

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, October 01, 2018 2:31 PM

Pawel

 

I have once mixed black paint with sand coloured paint. What do you guess that got as a result? Olive green as pretty as can be, that's what. I was really surprised. 
 

Actually that’s no surprise at all if you mix paints. The basic ingrediants for Olive Drab paint when first formulated was Yellow Ocre and Black. Most sand color paints are based off of yellow in one form or another. Remember that ALL colors come from mixing together in various combinations of at least two of the three primary colors:red, yellow, and blue. 

Its fun to see how you can mix various combinations and proportions and adjust your final results. Colors can get a ”warmer” tone with a hint of brown, or a ”cooler” tone with a hint of blue.

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, October 01, 2018 2:47 PM

No surprise. Paint isn't usually just true pigment and the actual chromas come apart from each other once you start playing with it.

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Posted by ogreb on Monday, October 01, 2018 7:42 PM

I think I figured it out.

When I said I mixed my paints it was only Black and White and a few premade greys....no colors. So I had 2 blacks, 6 greys, and 3 whites. I just labeled them as colors. So Dunkel gelb was grey 3 etc.

I think it was Anthracite Grey that got me.

Here it is on it's base with a few trees...if you see brown on the diorama it's just drying.

I'm dyeing the ground cover/ moss and grass as putting it on and then spraying just doesn't work.

Almost tempted to set it in winter...ease my workload. Snow is white.

I was going to do a scaled leaf tree ( 300 leaves ) but then I came to my senses so I just whipped up a few pine trees and sprayed the heck out of them...poor things.

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