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Tamiya M151A2 1/35 Scale
Posted by Mrchntmarine on Saturday, November 03, 2018 4:57 PM

So i started this awhile back and it was dragging and sat through the end of summer......  So i finally got it done.  Nice little kit and not bad to build.  I wish i had filled the dimples.  Where i had some trouble was with colors - as usual - being new to this and can never decide to try and replicate for authencity OR get "close" and stick to having fun!  I did try to match for authentic, but not being an expert yet, it got confusing as i did more and more looking.  Then I remembered the MERDC Camo info someone gave a link to and i really got over the top with that....  To top it off, during painting i got my green colors mixed up, after already pulling my hair out, just decided to hammer down with olive green and go.  I took some of the decals for the marine version and tried to stay close to that - at least according to the directions.  Decided to keep it clean - no camo or detailing.  Not too bad i think for the 4th or 5th kit.  Anyhow, on to a new project.  So i did post the one pic - can anyone tell me why the decal on the hood has that look?  Are those little air bubbles?  I used Pledge floor care for the gloss underneath and Micr Sol and Set...  Hope everone is doing well.  I hope the link opens the folder!  As always, tips and thoughts appreciated.

 

https://photos.app.goo.gl/6qbqR3ih237hxwTP7

 

  

 

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Saturday, November 03, 2018 5:20 PM

It's called "silvering" and the undercoat wasn't glossy enough to allow the decal to sit down without air bubble.

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Posted by GMorrison on Saturday, November 03, 2018 6:18 PM

The best way to fix avoid that is to use a gloss paint. Or apply a gloss clear coat over the paint. It's not a problem that setting solution will solve.

You can fix this. It means removing the decal, which will be destroyed, applying a clear gloss finish and then apply a new decal.

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Posted by Mrchntmarine on Sunday, November 04, 2018 12:49 PM
Craps. I guess I didnt lay the pledge down thick enough then.... Its already been clear coated so im not sure how to get it off.... Maybe a little project for later.
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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Sunday, November 04, 2018 2:28 PM

I should have a set of those USMC decals extra if you need them to redo the hood. Since I'm Army, I rarely use the jarhead option if I can make it an army vehicle.

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Posted by GMorrison on Sunday, November 04, 2018 2:32 PM

You mentioned Pledge. If the decal was set over Pledge, and then overcoated with more of it, a Q-tip dipped in Windex or ammonia can scrub it off. 

I don't know what other decals are on the hood, and don't want to mess with those, but redoing an area of the hood with Pledge/ decal/ Pledge should blend it all in ok.

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, November 04, 2018 5:05 PM

Rob Gronovius

I should have a set of those USMC decals extra if you need them to redo the hood. Since I'm Army, I rarely use the jarhead option if I can make it an army vehicle.

 

Likewise... I’m pretty sure I have the same excess decals if Rob can’t find his.

 

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, November 04, 2018 6:51 PM

Really nice, even with the slight silvering.

Befor applying a top coat, you want to always check for silvering, which you can, sometimes, "cure" with some careful use of sharp blades and decal solvent.

Tiny note here--All pioneer tools on USMC gear are religiously painted.  Otherwise they start corroding as soon as you get to a beach (or in the damp hold of an Amphib ship). 

Also, USMC, by the time of the A2, was in Woodlans camo, including helmet covers.

You did an excellent job on the TOW lanucher and the ammo tubes.

If you want to break up the color monotony a bit, paint the jerry can a bit darker olive thatn the rest.  The strap, like the seats needs to be a medium green.  The TOW sigh was always, in my experience, under a cover, which would be from a pale sage green to a dark schwartsgrun.  In keeping with your light weathiering, hitting the road-contact surfaces of the tires with Nato Black would really pop them out.

Or not, this is your kit, and it looks fine as is.

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, November 04, 2018 7:46 PM

CapnMac82

 

Also, USMC, by the time of the A2, was in Woodlans camo, including helmet covers.

 

 

 
Photos show some Marines still using the old ripstop ERDL cammies in Grenada and Lebanon. I’m pretty sure that the A2 was in service then and there. That was an interesting transition time as the new Kevlar PASGT vests could be seen with Steel Pots. 
 
 

 

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, November 05, 2018 11:35 AM

Nice work!!! 

If you haven't stripped the decals yet I've had some luck with slicing though the decal in a few places and then adding some Future over it and letting it seep down into and behind it sealing the gaps which will cure the silvering. It doesn't always work but it won't make anything any worse. 

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Posted by Mrchntmarine on Monday, November 05, 2018 12:32 PM

Tks to all for the tips !

Rob and Stick - I may take you up on the offer.  If i mess with them, and fail, I'll PM.  

 

GM an Captn - i used pledge underneath.  Then micro sol & set then sealed with clear flat.  I may try to cut and add pledge - guessing i still can even though i sealed it?  Thanks much for the tips on painting. I might try some of those ideas to practice - tires and jerry can.  I really wanted to camo the unit, but ive only done it once beofre and not very good.  But then again, i know i wont get better if i dont do more!  Probably should get some scrap to practice on.  

 

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Thursday, November 08, 2018 7:49 PM

stikpusher
Photos show some Marines still using the old ripstop ERDL cammies in Grenada and Lebanon. I’m pretty sure that the A2 was in service then and there. That was an interesting transition time as the new Kevlar PASGT vests could be seen with Steel Pots.

LoL.  Entirely correct, as always.  My intention was to keep it simple, and not get into the foilbles of Regimental Supply issues.  Or the "uh-wut" of Organizationally-owned gear which is standard for the Navy Department. 

Now, when that kit came out, I was pretty implressed that they added all the bits to make the USMC specific version.  Everything but an 8-point cover, that is.  Sigh.  That drive is so obviously an Army Spc4--only thing missing are a set of BCG glasses Smile

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Posted by Pawel on Friday, November 09, 2018 2:34 AM

BCG... Oh yeah, that's a good one! Capn, we can always count on you!

Have a nice day

PaweĊ‚

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, November 09, 2018 11:54 AM

CapnMac82

  

 

Now, when that kit came out, I was pretty implressed that they added all the bits to make the USMC specific version.  Everything but an 8-point cover, that is.  Sigh.  That drive is so obviously an Army Spc4--only thing missing are a set of BCG glasses Smile

 

Not every Spec-4 wore those things... ;) Funny quirk to the BC glasses was if you got tinted lenses in them, they looked like Ray Ban Wayfarers. Much more stylish. 

Have you checked out the driver figure on the Tamiya Gama Goats? I swear that they based it off my friend who was in the 82nd in one of the Artillery battalions and drove those things there. 

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Saturday, November 10, 2018 5:35 PM

stikpusher
Have you checked out the driver figure on the Tamiya Gama Goats? I swear that they based it off my friend who was in the 82nd in one of the Artillery battalions and drove those things there.

I have not looked that closely at the spue shots; neither do I know enough 82nd types (other than my late cousin).

However, it would not surprise me if he was in a photo the sculptor used.  I've seen some people compare Tamiya sculpts to some very real people, and it can be uncanny.

Wait, a SPC4 w/o BCG?  Sounds like camoflage Smile

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Sunday, November 11, 2018 10:17 AM

stikpusher

 

 
CapnMac82

  

 

Now, when that kit came out, I was pretty implressed that they added all the bits to make the USMC specific version.  Everything but an 8-point cover, that is.  Sigh.  That drive is so obviously an Army Spc4--only thing missing are a set of BCG glasses Smile

 

 

 

Not every Spec-4 wore those things... ;) Funny quirk to the BC glasses was if you got tinted lenses in them, they looked like Ray Ban Wayfarers. Much more stylish. 

Have you checked out the driver figure on the Tamiya Gama Goats? I swear that they based it off my friend who was in the 82nd in one of the Artillery battalions and drove those things there. 

 

I still have my first pair of BCGs that I put tinted lenses in when I went to the desert on my second trip. The original black ones, not the newer brown ones. I do have dozens of pairs of brown ones I never wore.

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, November 11, 2018 6:21 PM

Rob Gronovius
The original black ones, not the newer brown ones. I do have dozens of pairs of brown ones I never wore

I think we all had a pair (or seventeen), or we squinted a lot.

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Tuesday, November 13, 2018 11:41 AM

CapnMac82

 

 
stikpusher
Photos show some Marines still using the old ripstop ERDL cammies in Grenada and Lebanon. I’m pretty sure that the A2 was in service then and there. That was an interesting transition time as the new Kevlar PASGT vests could be seen with Steel Pots.

 

LoL.  Entirely correct, as always.  My intention was to keep it simple, and not get into the foilbles of Regimental Supply issues.  Or the "uh-wut" of Organizationally-owned gear which is standard for the Navy Department. 

Now, when that kit came out, I was pretty implressed that they added all the bits to make the USMC specific version.  Everything but an 8-point cover, that is.  Sigh.  That drive is so obviously an Army Spc4--only thing missing are a set of BCG glasses Smile

 

I believe the A2 arrived towards the end of Vietnam. The vast majority of jeep drivers were Spec 4s. Being a jeep driver was a bit of a prestigious assignment. Not sure about being the jeep driver of a TOW jeep though, but a regular commander, staff or first sergeant jeep driver was a ticket to sham.

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