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Dragon 1/35 60cm Morser wip

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Dragon 1/35 60cm Morser wip
Posted by plasticjunkie on Wednesday, March 06, 2019 8:24 AM

This is the old Dragon 60cm Morser. Posting here for those not following the Armor GB. 

I took all the running gear from the trees and cleaned them up and separated them for assembly. Lots of parts!

Parts cleaned up and sorted

The hull is a tad long.

The beast is taking shape....

 Have most of the major components on the superstructure assembled and glued.

This is the usual Dragon "where in the heck does this go?" build since the instructions are vague here and there. One has to do some dry fitting first to determine how the parts go on. One of the bolts had to be thinned down cause it would not fit against a particular part, usual Dragon oops moment but easily corrected.

The top is ready for the smaller details yet to come.

Even tough the punch out marks are under the platforms, they can still be seen since they attach very high up on the superstructure. A little PPP will fill them very easily.

This is how the side platforms sit.

The HUGE mufflers were assembled and cleaned up. The pipes were carefully drilled out with a hand held drill bit.

More big parts went together and cleaned up.

That's it for now.  

 

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Posted by hogfanfs on Wednesday, March 06, 2019 1:06 PM

PJ,

Thanks for posting, I'll be following along. Looks like a huge kit!

 Bruce

 

 

 

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Thursday, March 07, 2019 7:14 AM

hogfanfs

PJ,

Thanks for posting, I'll be following along. Looks like a huge kit!

 

Thanks for taking the time to post your comment. It sure looks a lot bigger than the usual 1/35 scale armor kit. Can you picture this thing in 1/24 scale ? Indifferent 

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Friday, March 08, 2019 8:43 AM

I have run into a questionable area just below the gun mechanism where Dragon left it as one big empty cavity. The gun would recoil into this area once elevated and fired.

I suspect this area was boxed in. I finally found something online showing this detail that needs to be built from plastic sheet.

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Wednesday, March 13, 2019 7:59 AM

Looks like painting will be next. Don't know which scheme to go with, either boring Panzer Grey or the brighter tri color.

I used up some of those junk plastic advertisement cards we get in the mail to fill in the area Dragon left vacant. In reality it would have gone further down into the hull but for simplicity's sake this will do. This area is barely visible anyway.

The kit includes a metal 60cm projectile.

The tracks, mufflers and road wheels will get painted soon.

The beast is ready for paint.

The driver's cabin.

The seat bottom and instruments will be attached later on after painting.

The loading sled will get the hairspray weathering trick.

  

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Posted by hogfanfs on Wednesday, March 13, 2019 8:39 AM

Wow! It's going together fast! And that projectile is massive!

 Bruce

 

 

 

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Posted by Greg on Wednesday, March 13, 2019 8:46 AM

Wow, that's a big tank! Never saw one of those before.

Project looking good so far, Ernie.

-Greg

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Posted by Tojo72 on Wednesday, March 13, 2019 8:59 AM
Thats a big project,and it's looking good.

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Posted by rooster513 on Wednesday, March 13, 2019 9:39 AM

Looking forward to seeing the paint PJ!

-Andy

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Thursday, March 14, 2019 8:48 AM

Thanks fellas. I started this morning spraying the German Yellow as a base for the tri color scheme. This thing is gonna use a lot of paint and several airbrushing sessions.

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Thursday, March 14, 2019 9:20 PM

Spent most of the day painting the German Yellow color. The bottom part is MM enamel and the top is Vallejo acrylic. The MM enamel paint is a tad lighter so I still have to go back and re touch some parts and even out the two colors. The flash makes the top look darker than what it really is.

The top took almos 3/4 of the Vallejo bottle. I have a few Vallejo paints so I wanted to try it out here but I'm not 100% liking it over enamels. It took several sessions and the AB was partially clogged a couple of times even with 3-4 drops of thinner to 10 drops of paint. Vallejo recommends 1-2 drops of tinner per 10 of paint. I also added double the dose on the flow improver which helped but again, nothing like the ease of using enamels.

  

The mufflers were shot with Alclad and MM metalizers.

The 2.3 ton projectile was sprayed MM RLM70 enamel then given a polish with a soft cotton rag and the least amount of Rub N Buff for a metallic tone. It still needs additional weathering. The darn thing looks like a Ma Deuce slug.

Size comparison of the projectile. I also picked up a nice pre made wood base at HL for $5. Not worth the hassle of breaking out my wood tools to make one.

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Posted by hogfanfs on Friday, March 15, 2019 7:50 AM

It's looking really good, PJ. 

I was thinking about that projectile and how big it is; then realized it's much bigger than the projectile used on the Bismarck battleship - 38cm to 60cm. They must have had a convoy of trucks hauling these projectiles, because I don't see a lot of storage room for them. Very interesting this beast!

 Bruce

 

 

 

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Posted by DRUMS01 on Friday, March 15, 2019 11:47 AM

Wow, it is big and beautiful. You have done alot but there is still much more to do. Are you planning on adding figures or doing anything more to the HL base? Is it a smoothbore or it there rigling in the bore?

I got the old 1/72 Hasegawa kit (unbuilt). I may have to try it in 1/35 some day as yours is really nice.

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Friday, March 15, 2019 3:15 PM

Thanks Bruce. Yea I think the support team was huge along with the actual gunners. From what I read the beast was partially dismantelled, loaded on to a train to its destination then reassembled and driving this monster to the designated firing area.

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Friday, March 15, 2019 3:22 PM

DRUMS01

Wow, it is big and beautiful. You have done alot but there is still much more to do. Are you planning on adding figures or doing anything more to the HL base? Is it a smoothbore or it there rigling in the bore?

I got the old 1/72 Hasegawa kit (unbuilt). I may have to try it in 1/35 some day as yours is really nice.

Ben 

 

Thanks Ben. I have barely started to detail this thing. It still needs the green and red brown paint. The biggest PITA will be painting the rubber part on the return rollers, all 12 of them.  It has rifling in the barrel and that interior part needs paint too. Once I have the tracks assembled and painted then I will be able to mount them on and start working on the base terrain but that is still far away.

 

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Saturday, March 16, 2019 8:12 PM

The beast has colors. I went back freehand and did some touch ups. I also added some white to the touch up paint and air brushed areas for fading.

one side of of the hull has the black rubber on the return rollers painted, now for the other side.

Now to let it cure then on with washes, weathering and finally the base.

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, March 17, 2019 6:48 PM

hogfanfs
They must have had a convoy of trucks hauling these projectiles, because I don't see a lot of storage room for them.

If memory serves, there was a heavily modified PzKfz IV that had a box that looked a lot like a Möbilwagen with a crane to hoist the shells out.  Even then, that only held line 10 or 12 (just not remembering which).

The whole thing was slung on a speciall railway carrage and moved bodily from place to place.  So, like as not, the ammo was in boxcars attached to the train.

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, March 17, 2019 6:50 PM

Anyone know if this beast used a common German track link, or of the track was custome to this beast?

Only real references are not very clear on that.  And, not knowing is giving me an "itch." Smile

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Sunday, March 17, 2019 9:57 PM

CapnMac82

Anyone know if this beast used a common German track link, or of the track was custome to this beast?

Only real references are not very clear on that.  And, not knowing is giving me an "itch." Smile

 

I compared the track and road wheels of one of my Dragon Mk. IV's and Karl's are just about double in size for both.

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Posted by hogfanfs on Monday, March 18, 2019 8:21 AM

PJ,

Great job painting the camo! I really like the pattern. 

 Bruce

 

 

 

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Posted by hogfanfs on Monday, March 18, 2019 8:26 AM

CapnMac82

 

 
hogfanfs
They must have had a convoy of trucks hauling these projectiles, because I don't see a lot of storage room for them.

 

If memory serves, there was a heavily modified PzKfz IV that had a box that looked a lot like a Möbilwagen with a crane to hoist the shells out.  Even then, that only held line 10 or 12 (just not remembering which).

The whole thing was slung on a speciall railway carrage and moved bodily from place to place.  So, like as not, the ammo was in boxcars attached to the train.

 

CapnMac82,

Thanks for the information! I did find this picture:

You can see the tank tracks of the carrier, which really makes sense as an appropriate vehicle for transport of such heavy projectiles.  

 Bruce

 

 

 

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Monday, March 18, 2019 11:22 AM

Thanks Bruce. I think this scheme is way better looking than the dark grey one.

Been doing oil washes so the parts are drying so on to the tracks.  As a typical Dragon goof, there are no instructions on  assembling them together. No big deal for me since I've done several armor builds with similar link  and sectional tracks. They have two mold release marks on each link but they will be covered up with pigments once assembled and painted so no need to fill and sand them. 

This is my highly sofisticated state of the art track jig, a piece of glass used as a straightedge to keep the links lined up. Tamiya thin glue goes on the joins and set aside for 20-30 minutes.

I can then mold and bend them to get the desired shape.

Dragon supplies straight sections and separate links so one has to play with the parts to see how many per side are used. None of this is mentioned in the instructions.

I have one side done so I let it cook for a while till they cure. Even after curing the links can be manipulated for sag and alignment.  Next will be paint and weathering th

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Posted by hogfanfs on Monday, March 18, 2019 12:01 PM

PJ,

The tracks look good. Funny, it looks like an elongated panzer IV! Which, in reality, I guess it is! 

I'm looking forward to seeing your weathering.

 Bruce

 

 

 

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Monday, March 18, 2019 8:17 PM

Bruce thanks, this thing could be a Mk. IV on steroids LOL.

Got the other side of the tracks done. This thing is a long puzzle.

Did several oil washes for grime and light rust.

The weathering on the loading sled did not come out as I wanted. Vallego does not behave the same way with the hair spray method as Acrylic lacquers like Tamiya does, producing a fine feathered worn effect unlike here where the paint just peeled exposing the red primer. I just may re do the entire paint thing on the sled.

 

I'm letting the oil washes dry and then I will spray clear flat acrylic and do some DOT filters for additional wear followed by a #2 pencil for exposed metal edges.

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Tuesday, March 19, 2019 9:02 PM

I wanted to keep this as an OOB build but the darn round air intake kept bothering me. Eduard makes a pe detail set for this model but it really doesn't increase the details that much. I only add pe if the plastic parts are replaced with more detailed metal ones. So with this in mind I decided to scratch out the intake screen cover. Whenever I see something that I can use for detailing I grab it and throw it in my junk box. I picked up this thin metal screen somewhere a while back.

 

Again I go back to those plastic advertisement cards that come in the mail and drew my circle using the cover plate as a template on the card and screen. Using my Xuron pe cutters I trimmed out the metal screen.

   

With the circle template taped down securing things I used my scribing needle to carefully score out the circle. I also used my beading tool set to add recessed bolt heads around the plastic ring.

I used my Xuron cutter to carefully cut the ring out. 

 

Here's the completed cover.

And over the air intake. I think it looks better with this additional detail.

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