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NVA T-54 Color

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NVA T-54 Color
Posted by AWS1to1scale on Friday, May 24, 2019 8:21 PM

Hello group.

 

I will be starting a build of the Takom t-54B, and I would like to do a NVA version (North Vietnamese Army). 

 

I am hoping someone can give me some guidance on the base color on the AFV.  It appears in images as a darker green, but I can't really match it with anything in Vallejo or Tamiya.  I am terrible at mixing to achieve a color, so I would rather not do that.

 

Can anyone who may have experience with a NVA subject offer a color selection to match the base color?

 

Thank you.

 

  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Fort Knox
Posted by Rob Gronovius on Sunday, June 2, 2019 11:08 AM

The instructions give a color, but I would go for Soviet green. Why bother repainting a tank that is green into a different shade of similar green just to go into combat.

Now there are probably some tanks dressed up for the victory parade after they won the war. They may be repainted to look pretty.

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    May 2017
  • From: Park City, Utah
Posted by Frankenpanzer on Monday, June 3, 2019 7:18 AM

Green.

Although I must confess, my first impression upon seeing these from the air was that they were more brown than green. 

Image from the interweb.

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    January 2015
  • From: Tumwater, WA.
Posted by M. Brindos on Monday, June 3, 2019 2:07 PM

Vallejo's Russian Armor Green would probably be a safe bet.

I'm fairly certain they wouldn't bother repainting them a different green either. If anything, they'd just use some local mud for an ad hoc camo, if they even bothered at all.

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, June 3, 2019 2:18 PM

I don't know the exact numbers, but quite a few were Chinese built T-59s. The PLA has a three color camo scheme, here's a clip from an add I found for MIG paints.

A selection of the most accurate colors to paint PLA (Chinese People’s Liberation Army) vehicles. The set includes the most common modern 3 tones Chinese camouflage colors and base green widely used for single color vehicles over many decades. All 4 jars are acrylic and formulated for maximum performance both with brush and airbrush. The Scale Reduction-Effect will allow us to apply the correct color on our models. Water soluble, odorless, and non-toxic. Shake well before each use. Each jar includes a stainless steel agitator to facilitate mixture. We recommend A.MIG-2000 Acrylic Thinner for correct thinning. Dries completely in 24 hours.
Included colors:
A.MIG-060 Pale Green
A.MIG-078 Ochre Earth
A.MIG-083 Zashchitniy Zeleno
A.MIG-924 Olive Drab Shadow

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    July 2004
  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Monday, June 3, 2019 2:39 PM

NVA tanks could have been of Russia or Chinese origin, or from one of the Warsaw Pact satellite countries that had tank production capability, such as Poland or Czechoslovakia. Pick you favorite shade of Russian Armor green and you’ll be fine. Czech built tanks tend to be of a more brownish Olive Drab shade than some of the others. 

GM, I don’t think that the Chinese went to multi tone schemes until after the Vietnam war ended.

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, June 3, 2019 2:51 PM

Good question, I don't know. What wars were the PLA in at that time?

EDIT- Sino-Indian War of 1962. Apparently color hadn't been invented yet.

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  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, June 4, 2019 9:50 AM

GMorrison

Good question, I don't know. What wars were the PLA in at that time?

EDIT- Sino-Indian War of 1962. Apparently color hadn't been invented yet.

 

I think that the last shooting war that the PLA was involved in was during the 70’s incursion into Vietnam. Before that, they fought some border ”incidents” with the Soviets in the late 60’s. 

But sometime between the Vietnam incursion and Tianemen Square the PLA started using multi color camouflage schemes.

 

 

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N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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  • Member since
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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Tuesday, June 4, 2019 8:40 PM

stikpusher
the PLA started using multi color camouflage schemes.

And in the last 5 years or so, they have started using near fluorescent camo, in some down-right funky colors that look more like anime. 

Go figure.  2¢ (0.875 yuan)

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