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1/35 Tamiya Leopard 1-A4
Posted by M. Brindos on Thursday, July 25, 2019 9:11 PM

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, July 25, 2019 9:23 PM

This is a nice kit to build! Although lacking in several details, it is a great basic build. Have fun with it.

 

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Posted by M. Brindos on Thursday, July 25, 2019 9:40 PM

I've noticed that it's a little soft in a few areas and too thick in a few others, but it looks like a Leopard.

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, July 25, 2019 9:48 PM

M. Brindos

I've noticed that it's a little soft in a few areas and too thick in a few others, but it looks like a Leopard.

 

Yes. And that is what it boils down to, it looks like a Leopard.

 

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Posted by M. Brindos on Thursday, July 25, 2019 10:24 PM

It's a lot like the Panther Ausf. A in a lot of ways lol. Open fenders, open drivers vision ports, motorization plugs, and lots of room for improvements.

I did drill out the mantlet ports for the sight and coax , and I detailed the back a little. Just a few details to bring up the crispness level a touch.

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, July 29, 2019 9:39 PM

Yeah, looks like a Leopard I!

Very cool, looking forward to more.

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Posted by GreySnake on Tuesday, July 30, 2019 9:57 AM
It’s looking good! Always liked how the A4 variant looked.
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Posted by HighDesertmodeler on Saturday, August 17, 2019 7:35 PM

I have a couple of those old Tamiya kits in my inventory.  Garnted, it is not detailed to today’s standards, but one can still make a nice representation of this late model Leopard 1 with it.   I‘m planning on assembling and finishing one in NATO colors.

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Posted by M. Brindos on Tuesday, August 27, 2019 2:04 PM

I'm considering a late WWII Ambush scheme, H.D.M. 

I love that scheme and it would look amazing on this Leopard. Like it was painted up for a low budget film or re-enactment.

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Posted by HighDesertmodeler on Tuesday, August 27, 2019 2:41 PM
Little artistic license, why not?
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Posted by GreySnake on Tuesday, August 27, 2019 3:07 PM
I say go for it! Didn’t they use a Leopard 1 in A Bridge Too Far as a stand it for the German tanks?
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Posted by M. Brindos on Tuesday, August 27, 2019 3:42 PM

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/A_Bridge_Too_Far#Leopard_1_Main_Battle_Tank_.28mocked_up_as_a_German_Panther.29

Yes they did use a Leopard 1. There's some kind of cover they made for the turret to cover the modern equipment, but it's definitely a 1st Gen Leopard.

That would be a fun one to replicate!

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Posted by RBaer on Tuesday, August 27, 2019 8:57 PM

Excellent idea, movie tanks are always fun. There's some goofy movie out there, supposed to be British (?) guys in the Western Desert, and the stand-in for the German tank is a full-on IDF M51. How ironic is that.

Apprentice rivet counter.

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Posted by M. Brindos on Tuesday, August 27, 2019 10:35 PM

That's seriously ironic! LMAO

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Wednesday, August 28, 2019 10:28 AM

I've built the older style Tamiya Leopard 1 before, but not this one. I think they use the same hull, but with different turrets.

Back in the 1980s, the Italeri version of this tank was one of my favorite ones to build.

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Posted by M. Brindos on Wednesday, August 28, 2019 10:54 AM

The hull with this kit actually says "Gepard" in it. So I know those kits share the same hull lol.

I noticed this kit doesn't have the cable for the searchlight, then I noticed the parts were not even included to add the cable. So I had to do a little research to figure out what details are missing. 

Uh, there's a lot of missing details on this kit. I could spend weeks scratch building all of them.

So now it's a matter of how much detail loss I can live with. The searchlight needs a cable, so I already started that part.

I think I'll add the drivers hatch rests as well. Vision blocks too. The mirrors I think I will modify to make them more durable to handling. Just have to drill the right sized hole and bend some wire.

I don't have much to show yet.

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Wednesday, August 28, 2019 11:19 AM

M. Brindos

I noticed this kit doesn't have the cable for the searchlight, then I noticed the parts were not even included to add the cable. So I had to do a little research to figure out what details are missing. 

Uh, there's a lot of missing details on this kit. I could spend weeks scratch building all of them.

Remember, this kit was released when this tank was a front line vehicle. Access to this high tech warmachine during the height of the Cold War may have been limited.

Lots of smaller detail items could be understandably missing since there may have been public affairs promo photos used to create the kit.

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Posted by M. Brindos on Wednesday, August 28, 2019 11:50 AM

I believe that's the reason the Tamiya M1Abrams is missing some of the fine details as well.

So, taking that into account, I don't think I will overload myself with worrying about all those missing details. Just a few to make me happier about it lol.

In fact, I think I'll just stick to the overall green scheme and move on lol. There are much better kits out there and this one falls into the Tamiya "Classics" category anyways. 

I'll have to go back to Mike's (toy shop) for that Challenger now lol!

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, August 28, 2019 1:42 PM

Rob Gronovius

I've built the older style Tamiya Leopard 1 before, but not this one. I think they use the same hull, but with different turrets.

Back in the 1980s, the Italeri version of this tank was one of my favorite ones to build.

 

Its a different hull. The A0 Leo hull had a pebbly finish, as well as an engine fan piece and screen mesh. That is just molded as relief on the A4 kit, and the armor does not have the pebbly surface finish. There are other detail differences. It was definitely Jimmy Carter era  Tamiya “new tool” on the A4 and Gepard. The A0 version is a contemporary of their original M60A1 & A2 kits. 

I agree bigtime on the Italeri Leo 1A4. It still holds up well to my eye. Not an uberkit, but a damn good kit and top of the line for it’s time.

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, August 28, 2019 2:06 PM

GreySnake
I say go for it! Didn’t they use a Leopard 1 in A Bridge Too Far as a stand it for the German tanks?
 

Yes, they used Dutch army Leo’s in A Bridge Too Far. The hull side stowage boxes, and different smoke grenade launchers ID them as Dutch. They also used them in Soldier of Orange.

 

 

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Posted by M. Brindos on Wednesday, August 28, 2019 3:20 PM

I may have to try to make one of those some day. I'll add it to my list of fake German movie armour.

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Thursday, August 29, 2019 12:59 AM

M. Brindos

I may have to try to make one of those some day. I'll add it to my list of fake German movie armour.

 

Along with this "King Tiger"?

When I was younger, I always thought the German tanks were bad guys, since I watched a lot of Hogan's Heroes and Rat Patrol. So these Leopards played bad guys.

One thing that confused me as a kid though; the MBT70 came with US and German markings. I couldn't figure out how the bad guys had the same tank as we did.

A child's mind does not always figure that the WW2 Germans are different from the Bundeswehr Germans.

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Thursday, August 29, 2019 10:09 AM

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Posted by M. Brindos on Thursday, August 29, 2019 10:28 AM

Rob Gronovius

 

 
M. Brindos

I may have to try to make one of those some day. I'll add it to my list of fake German movie armour.

 

 

 

Along with this "King Tiger"?

 

When I was younger, I always thought the German tanks were bad guys, since I watched a lot of Hogan's Heroes and Rat Patrol. So these Leopards played bad guys.

One thing that confused me as a kid though; the MBT70 came with US and German markings. I couldn't figure out how the bad guys had the same tank as we did.

A child's mind does not always figure that the WW2 Germans are different from the Bundeswehr Germans.

 

Yes, just like that M-47 "King Tiger" lol!

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Posted by M. Brindos on Thursday, August 29, 2019 10:29 AM

Rob Gronovius

 

That's a very good picture. I saved that, thanks Rob.

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Posted by M. Brindos on Thursday, August 29, 2019 10:54 PM

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, August 30, 2019 10:34 AM

Looks neat! 

Gotta love those Alpine figures. A great figure like they make is a joy to paint, a bad one not so much... 

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Posted by M. Brindos on Friday, August 30, 2019 11:18 AM

Oh, yes. The Alpine figures are just gorgeous. Miniart figures are good imo and are easy to work with. The older Tamiya figs take a lot of work but can shine.

Dragon figs are much like Miniart figs. Modifications and added details bring them up to snuff.

But Alpine... Assemble and paint. Beautiful and worth the extra scratch for an invested project. I have some spare heads as well.

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Posted by M. Brindos on Friday, August 30, 2019 5:17 PM

Drivers hatch rests added.

Looks a little more like a Leopard.

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, August 30, 2019 9:52 PM

Don’t forget the ice cleats and racks on the glacis.

 

 

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