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Taliban Transportation Service
Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, August 01, 2019 2:14 PM

My next project. I finally found a picture of this beast after reading about it a couple of years ago.

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Posted by crown r n7 on Thursday, August 01, 2019 2:40 PM

Interesting  

Nick.

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Posted by Pawel on Thursday, August 01, 2019 2:45 PM

Hello!

So is it a seamless blend of a GAZ-66 chassis with the shall of a Mi-8 helicopter? I sure would love to see you pull this one off... The star on the fuselage is a little strange, what could it be?

Good luck with your project and have a nice day

Paweł

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, August 01, 2019 3:07 PM

Correct, Pawel although "seamless" might not be the term I would choose.

My quandry is that 1/72 Mi-8s are inexpensive, but 1/72 Gaz-66s aren't. 1/35 Gaz-66s are cheap, but 1/35 Mi-8s are not. I'll just keep looking and would prefer the smaller truck.

Yeah, the star is where the red one was. Maybe it was a stick on and the boys peeled it off? I'm not familiar with either piece of equipment. Does the helicopter have rear clamshell doors? Probably a side door. Looks like there's no glass in the port holes.

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, August 01, 2019 3:11 PM

Very interesting project.

 

Pawel, isn't that the old insignia of the Afghan Air Force?

''I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so''

On the bench: ICM 1/35th Sd.Kfz 251/1 Ausf A

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, August 01, 2019 3:18 PM

Bish

Very interesting project.

 

Pawel, isn't that the old insignia of the Afghan Air Force?

 

You guys are great. Keep the info coming!

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Posted by Pawel on Thursday, August 01, 2019 4:04 PM

G - I wrote "seamless" because I was surprised how good it fits. Much better than I'd guess not seeing it!

The thing is I'm just reading a book about the Mi-8.

The glass in the windows is busted and the Mi-8 traditionally had nice, large, side-opening clamshell doors in the rear - the book says it was no good for unloading in a hurry, so that only left the left-side sliding door for assault-style unload - one of the biggest drawbacks of the machine. Today they build them with sliding doors on both sides and they give their customers an option of loading ramp od clamshell doors (which are, surprisingly, lighter than the ramp!).

I'm still wondering about the insignia - it seems to be a star (not a triangle!), on white background and in a red circle! Doesn't quite fit the Afgan insignia from the photo. From what I know the russians never used a background for the star. Other communist countries did.

I feel your pain about the scale... I also think 1:72 would be best here, in 1:35 you'd probably need more references. I'll try to look up some GAZ-66 for you, let's see if I can get it cheaper.

Have a nice day!

Paweł

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, August 01, 2019 4:30 PM

The star may be the Democratic Republic of Afghanistan. Just really dirty.

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Posted by Pawel on Thursday, August 01, 2019 4:57 PM

Oh yeah, that would fit.

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, August 01, 2019 5:45 PM

xcellent! I can make decals from that file

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Posted by M. Brindos on Thursday, August 01, 2019 5:48 PM

Interesting vehicle. I'd love to see you tackle this one.

- Mike Brindos

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Posted by keavdog on Thursday, August 01, 2019 8:44 PM

I'd like to see this!

Heres a 1/35  hip that's cheapish so far:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1-35-TRUMPETER-MIL-MI-8-MT-MI-HIP-H-HELOCOPTER-MIB/223602539360?hash=item340fbffb60:g:DYwAAOSwa-1c56q6

Thanks,

John

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, August 01, 2019 10:04 PM

Pawel

G - I wrote "seamless" because I was surprised how good it fits. Much better than I'd guess not seeing it!

 

Your book might shed light on this, but your comment got me to thinking.

Maybe both the GAZ-66 and the fuselage of the Hip were designed to be stuffed into an AN-12?

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Posted by GMorrison on Friday, August 02, 2019 12:10 AM

I cannot remember where I first heard about this vehicle. I do think it was run by the Northern Alliance up north in Afghanistan prior to 911.

The story is maybe in Junger's book, I'm not sure.

In any case, I've made the decision to go 1/35. It will take some thought, but I want to add some emotion to the build. Those Talibs waving from the cab make me think about the dusty character of the vehicle.

My CIA friend "Anne" came back with a pakul for me, and I get the theme.

Another good book is Michener's "Caravans".

And read about Tamerlaine.

Kipling:

WHEN the 'arf-made recruity goes out to the East
'E acts like a babe an' 'e drinks like a beast,
An' 'e wonders because 'e is frequent deceased
 Ere 'e's fit for to serve as a soldier.
 Serve, serve, serve as a soldier,
 Serve, serve, serve as a soldier,
 Serve, serve, serve as a soldier,
 So-oldier of the Queen!

Now all you recruities what's drafted to-day,
You shut up your rag-box an' 'ark to my lay,
An' I'll sing you a soldier as far as I may:
 A soldier what's fit for a soldier.
 Fit, fit, fit for a soldier . . .

First mind you steer clear o' the grog-sellers' huts,
For they sell you Fixed Bay'nets that rots out your guts - 
Ay, drink that 'ud eat the live steel from your butts - 
 An' it's bad for the young British soldier.
 Bad, bad, bad for the soldier . . .

When the cholera comes - as it will past a doubt - 
Keep out of the wet and don't go on the shout,
For the sickness gets in as the liquor dies out,
 An' it crumples the young British soldier.
  Crum-, crum-, crumples the soldier . . .

But the worst o' your foes is the sun over'ead:
You must wear your 'elmet for all that is said:
If 'e finds you uncovered 'e'll knock you down dead,
 An' you'll die like a fool of a soldier.
 Fool, fool, fool of a soldier . . .

If you're cast for fatigue by a sergeant unkind,
Don't grouse like a woman nor crack on nor blind;
Be handy and civil, and then you will find
 That it's beer for the young British soldier.
  Beer, beer, beer for the soldier . . .

Now, if you must marry, take care she is old - 
A troop-sergeant's widow's the nicest I'm told,
For beauty won't help if your rations is cold,
 Nor love ain't enough for a soldier.
 'Nough, 'nough, 'nough for a soldier . . . 

If the wife should go wrong with a comrade, be loath 
To shoot when you catch 'em - you'll swing, on my oath! - 
Make 'im take 'er and keep 'er: that's Hell for them both,
 An' you're shut o' the curse of a soldier.
 Curse, curse, curse of a soldier . . .

When first under fire an' you're wishful to duck,
Don't look nor take 'eed at the man that is struck,
Be thankful you're livin', and trust to your luck
 And march to your front like a soldier.
 Front, front, front like a soldier . . .

When 'arf of your bullets fly wide in the ditch,
Don't call your Martini a cross-eyed old ***;
She's human as you are - you treat her as sich,
 An' she'll fight for the young British soldier.
 Fight, fight, fight for the soldier . . .

When shakin' their bustles like ladies so fine,
The guns o' the enemy wheel into line,
Shoot low at the limbers an' don't mind the shine,
 For noise never startles the soldier.
 Start-, start-, startles the soldier . . . 

If your officer's dead and the sergeants look white,
Remember it's ruin to run from a fight:
So take open order, lie down, and sit tight,
 And wait for supports like a soldier.
 Wait, wait, wait like a soldier . . .

When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains,
And the women come out to cut up what remains,
Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains 
 An' go to your Gawd like a soldier.
 Go, go, go like a soldier,
 Go, go, go like a soldier,
 Go, go, go like a soldier,
 So-oldier of the Queen!

God Bless our troops over there and Pray for their return.

 

Bill

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Posted by Pawel on Friday, August 02, 2019 1:47 AM

GMorrison
And the women come out to cut up what remains

He's been there, done that, hasn't he?

War is hell, people tend to forget that...

Have a nice, peaceful day!

Paweł

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Posted by Pawel on Friday, August 02, 2019 1:49 AM

GMorrison
Maybe both the GAZ-66 and the fuselage of the Hip were designed to be stuffed into an AN-12?

I didn't really find info on this one. I don't think air transportability is key here, knowing the Soviets I'd suspect that the measurements work because of rail transportability!

Have a nice day

Paweł

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Posted by Bish on Friday, August 02, 2019 2:52 AM

modelcrazy

The star may be the Democratic Republic of Afghanistan. Just really dirty.

 

Thats the one, well found Steve.

''I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so''

On the bench: ICM 1/35th Sd.Kfz 251/1 Ausf A

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Posted by Bish on Friday, August 02, 2019 3:59 AM

Nice choice of Kipling Bill.

I did work with Russian crewed UN operated MiL-6's out of bastion in 08-09. They might as well have stuck it onto a bus the way they taxied in to pick up a load.

''I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so''

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Friday, August 02, 2019 7:38 AM

Bill: Now that's an interesting find! Looking forward to what you do with this. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Friday, August 02, 2019 11:20 AM

Oh My!

 And I thought airplanes turned into subs was weird .Can't wait to see it Bill. Oh thanks for the Kipling too !

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