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M2 Bradley REFORGER - Complete 10/7

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, August 27, 2019 8:23 PM

HeavyArty

I fixed the markings on the TOWs.  Brown stripe for motor end.  I don't know how I screwed that up.  I know better.

 

 

Yes

 

 

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, August 29, 2019 11:28 AM

Sharp job there on all the interior detail! 

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Thursday, August 29, 2019 12:00 PM

I love kits with interiors, but I know most of it will be invisible forever.

But since I enjoy building, just putting parts together, it's more bang per kit.

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Posted by HeavyArty on Thursday, August 29, 2019 2:44 PM

Thanks guys.  I too love doing interiors.  Yes, most won't be seen, but I know it is there and I enjoy the detail work.

I have a small update as well.  I added some personal items and gear to the interior to complete it.  I am calling the interior done.

In the back, I added a couple MRE boxes, water can, ammo boxes, canteens, a helmet, bags, etc.

Same in the driver area.

In the turret, I also added a bag, ammo can, and canteen, along with a map for the BC (Bradley Commander).

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Posted by RBaer on Friday, August 30, 2019 9:50 AM

Excellent work here. I will publicly admit that interiors give me hives, hats off here.

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, August 30, 2019 10:28 AM

Again, very cool. She's coming right along! 

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Posted by HeavyArty on Friday, August 30, 2019 10:56 AM

Thanks guys.  It has been fun so far.

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Posted by M1GarandFan on Friday, August 30, 2019 11:09 AM

It IS a shame that most of the interior won't be seen. You're doing such a great job on it, it looks like you could climb right in. Love the detail and added equipment.

I enjoyed the interior detail of my Bronco M24 turret, but you can't really see any of it either.

Several of you are real experts at modern U.S. vehicles. I assume that the light green interior paint is the current color being used?

 

 

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Posted by HeavyArty on Friday, August 30, 2019 11:24 AM

Thanks M1GarandFan.  I like doing all the interior detail even though I know most will not be seen.

M1GarandFan
Several of you are real experts at modern U.S. vehicles. I assume that the light green interior paint is the current color being used?

It depends on the vehicle.  Tank and howitzer interiors are still white.  Strykers also have white interiors.  Most wheeled vehicles (HMMWV, HEMTT, MRAP, FMTV, etc.) have either dark green or sand interiors.  APCs (Bradley, M113, M577, AAVP7, LAV-25, etc.) have the seafoam green interior.

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Posted by M1GarandFan on Friday, August 30, 2019 12:03 PM

I appreciate the info. Verrry interesting, as Artie Johnson used to say on Laugh-in.

That might be useful to me at some point in the future. Thanks.

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, August 30, 2019 12:08 PM

Yeah, I had no idea there were different interior colours. Thank for the head's up!!! 

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Friday, August 30, 2019 12:08 PM

A basic rule of thumb when it comes to the color of modern US armor, is that if the interior of the vehicle won't be seen from the outside, it is normally gloss white.

If the vehicle operates with a large hatch open, like an armored personnel carrier, for troops to egress, then it is sea foam green, more of a satin finish.

So tanks tend to be white and APC, IFV, CFV are sea foam green.

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Posted by laskdjn on Friday, August 30, 2019 12:25 PM

add AAVs to the list of sea foam green interiors.

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Friday, August 30, 2019 12:36 PM

laskdjn

add AAVs to the list of sea foam green interiors.

 

It's basically a sea going APC

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, August 30, 2019 12:54 PM

Rob Gronovius

A basic rule of thumb when it comes to the color of modern US armor, is that if the interior of the vehicle won't be seen from the outside, it is normally gloss white.

If the vehicle operates with a large hatch open, like an armored personnel carrier, for troops to egress, then it is sea foam green, more of a satin finish.

So tanks tend to be white and APC, IFV, CFV are sea foam green.

 

 

Hmm, so AFVs and IFVs are basically like a Second World War open-top TD like an M10, M18, or M36 with olive drab interiors to their turrets? 

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Posted by HeavyArty on Friday, August 30, 2019 6:41 PM

Gamera
Hmm, so AFVs and IFVs are basically like a Second World War open-top TD like an M10, M18, or M36 with olive drab interiors to their turrets? 

Basically, just with seafoam green.

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, August 30, 2019 10:00 PM

Gamera

 

 
Rob Gronovius

A basic rule of thumb when it comes to the color of modern US armor, is that if the interior of the vehicle won't be seen from the outside, it is normally gloss white.

If the vehicle operates with a large hatch open, like an armored personnel carrier, for troops to egress, then it is sea foam green, more of a satin finish.

So tanks tend to be white and APC, IFV, CFV are sea foam green.

 

 

 

 

Hmm, so AFVs and IFVs are basically like a Second World War open-top TD like an M10, M18, or M36 with olive drab interiors to their turrets? 

 

Yes and no. Mortar tracks, the M106, had a Forest Green weapons compartment. Troop compartments on most M113 types was Sea Foam Green. Only the driver’s area forward of the engine compartment rear bulkhead was in Sea Foam Green on the M106. On the 113 family of tracks the engine compartment was also in Sea Foam Green. Interior surfaces of hatches was Forest Green. 

 

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U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

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Posted by HeavyArty on Thursday, September 5, 2019 8:09 PM

I have finished the major construction.  I still need to add all the handholds and steps along the side skirts.  I also need to add some tool clips and such from the Exterior PE set too.

I used most of the Eduard Exterior PE set.  It gives you all the nice mesh screens and other bits and bobbles that make the exterior really nice.  

I started on the lower hull by adding four shock absorbers (left over from Dragon's M270 MLRS) to each side of the hull at the 1, 2, 3, and 6th (last) roadwheel position.  I also used the sprockets and idlers from the MLRS.

I also added the arm and mount that raises and lowers the ramp from sheet styrene and a left over lifting eye base.

One the upper hull, I used quite a bit of PE.  It is mainly in the front glacis area.  There are the very nice screens and intake covers, exhaust box, and a few lifting points.  I made the front swim barrier cover out of metal foil from a wine bottle neck.  I think it looks much better than the tube provided by Tamiya.

On the turret, the PE is much finer and provides smaller details such as the ammo can racks, small parts on teh rear of teh TOW launcher, and the doors and front of the GPS doghouse.

Hopefully I can get some paint on it this weekend.  If not I will be out of town all next week on business and not be able to work on it any.

 

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, September 6, 2019 8:47 AM

Oh wow, that looks so good. Love the PE, it makes a real difference. 

 

SP: Sorry I missed your post. Guess it's something else I'll have to check on a individual vehicle basis.  

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Posted by M. Brindos on Friday, September 6, 2019 1:14 PM

This is really looking amazing, Gino. I love all the details on the outside right now.

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Posted by Tojo72 on Friday, September 6, 2019 2:57 PM
Looks great,makes me want to move my AFV Club version up in my queue.

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Posted by HeavyArty on Friday, September 6, 2019 4:28 PM

Thanks guys.  It has been fun so far and I am liking how it is turning out.  The PE adds a lot to this old kit, originally from 1983. 

Tojo72
Looks great,makes me want to move my AFV Club version up in my queue.

Not sure which kit you are talking about as AFV Club doesn't make any Bradley models.

Gino P. Quintiliani - Field Artillery - The KING of BATTLE!!!

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Posted by Tojo72 on Friday, September 6, 2019 4:54 PM

HeavyArty

Thanks guys.  It has been fun so far and I am liking how it is turning out.  The PE adds a lot to this old kit, originally from 1983. 

 

 
Tojo72
Looks great,makes me want to move my AFV Club version up in my queue.

 

Not sure which kit you are talking about as AFV Club doesn't make any Bradley models.

 

Yes you are right,I was thinking about my Vietnam era M113  with the interior.My kits are in storage so I got confused.

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Posted by HeavyArty on Sunday, September 8, 2019 8:15 PM

So the build is really done this time.  

I made the hand holds/foot loops from florist wire, wrapped around a home-made jig to get them all the same shape and size.  They look pretty good to me, but might be a little thick.

 

I then added them to the top and bottom of the armored side skirts.  From my reference pics, there were quite a few different ways they were configured.  This setup seemed to be the most common.

 

    

I also added the securing loops for the various tools.  I will be going with the molded-on bungi rubber hold-down straps since they look better to me than the flat strips in the PE set.

 

Lastly, I added the Aber barrels to the M231 firing port guns.  They look pretty nice to me.  Much better than the kit barrels.

 

Next up is paint, but probably not until next week as I will be on a business trip all this week.

Gino P. Quintiliani - Field Artillery - The KING of BATTLE!!!

Check out my Gallery: http://smg.photobuck...v231/HeavyArty/?

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, September 9, 2019 8:47 AM

The hand-holds look good and the Aber barrels are a huge improvement. Yes

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Monday, September 9, 2019 10:19 AM

RBaer

Excellent work here. I will publicly admit that interiors give me hives, hats off here.

 

I like them, but realize I only need enough to be seen through an open hatch. All I want in a reasonable representation of an interior, and not a true to life interior. At best, most hatch openings are the size of a thumbnail.

Now the interior of an AFV like a Bradley with cargo ramp down, does need to be displayed.

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Posted by HeavyArty on Monday, September 9, 2019 8:51 PM

Thanks Gamera and Rob.  I think it is coming out nicely and I am enjoying the build.

Gino P. Quintiliani - Field Artillery - The KING of BATTLE!!!

Check out my Gallery: http://smg.photobuck...v231/HeavyArty/?

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Posted by RBaer on Friday, September 13, 2019 8:48 AM

Rob- I'll do a little, sometimes just a suggestion of what's visible through an open turret or driver's hatch, but full interiors like Gino's work is beyond me.

Gino- Really nice work here, I'm going to bookmark this and use it as reference for the old Tamiya kit I have in the stash.

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Posted by laskdjn on Friday, September 13, 2019 1:15 PM

Rob Gronovius

 

 
laskdjn

add AAVs to the list of sea foam green interiors.

 

 

 

It's basically a sea going APC

 

 

 

Yessir.  I can count on one hand how many times we had troops in the back, though.

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Posted by HeavyArty on Sunday, September 22, 2019 7:29 PM

I have been able to paint and decal it.  I painted it Testors Model Master Dark Green (FS34079), which is the same as Forest Green.  I used the decals from the Tamiya kit.  They went down fine over a coat of gloss and with a little decal set.  I then dull-coated it and painted all the periscopes with clear green and a couple coats of gloss. 

I had to change plans on the tracks.  The Hobby Boss triangle block track didn't fit onto the Dragon MLRS sprockets.  The pitch of the holes and teeth were off and didn't line up.  So I used a set of tracks from the Dragon MLRS instead.  They are just as nice indi-links and longer link-and-length sections for the flat top and bottom runs.  They went together well and look pretty good to me.

Next up is some gear and weathering, then it will be done. 

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Check out my Gallery: http://smg.photobuck...v231/HeavyArty/?

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