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Dragon 1/35 M46 WIP

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Posted by Keyserj on Monday, July 13, 2020 8:19 PM

The angle really threw me off but I do see it now. Embarrassed

"Why don't you knock it off with them negative waves?"- Oddball

 

John

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Posted by Sergeant on Monday, July 13, 2020 8:09 PM

stikpusher

 

 
Keyserj

Stik, I think you might have posted the wrong pic. Looks to me as though you didn't add more yellow. Anyways, it is looking really good. Yes 

 

 

 

Lol! Thanks. But no, that photo was done immediately after i painted the yellow and from a different angle. Just see how the yellow goes out to almost the front most stamping rib on the fender.

 

I can see the difference... It looks perfect Mate.

Harold

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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, July 13, 2020 7:43 PM

Keyserj

Stik, I think you might have posted the wrong pic. Looks to me as though you didn't add more yellow. Anyways, it is looking really good. Yes 

 

Lol! Thanks. But no, that photo was done immediately after i painted the yellow and from a different angle. Just see how the yellow goes out to almost the front most stamping rib on the fender.

 

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Posted by Keyserj on Monday, July 13, 2020 7:22 PM

Stik, I think you might have posted the wrong pic. Looks to me as though you didn't add more yellow. Anyways, it is looking really good. Yes 

"Why don't you knock it off with them negative waves?"- Oddball

 

John

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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, July 13, 2020 5:03 PM

I extended the yellow more forward on the fenders this afternoon...

 

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, July 12, 2020 4:06 PM

Thanks guys. I’m pretty surprised at how vivid the yellow looks here, but I think part of that is due to lighting in my new photo booth and photo editing settings.

RG, I did zero prep work for the yellow over the OD. I just used Humbrol enamel, but that has a pretty strong pigment in there. Lots of light coats built up. And I think that since OD is basicly a mix of yellow and black, the yellow top color has something in that base to work with.

Bill, some of the 6th Tank Btn. had the canvas mantlet covers, and some did not. Just like some had the T84 rubber chevron track and others had the T80 steel chevron track. I’ve seen both in film footage and photos of the unit. I couldn’t find any photo of the turret/hull number for this tank to say either way for certain, so I’m taking the path of least resistance and going with what is in the kit.

 

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Posted by hogfanfs on Sunday, July 12, 2020 12:34 PM

I have to agree, you laid that yellow down like a champ! Very well done!

 Bruce

 

 On the bench:  1/48 Eduard MiG-21MF

                        1/35 Takom Merkava Mk.I

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Sunday, July 12, 2020 9:49 AM

I don't know how I missed this post, it's really cool.

25 or so posts just on track. Man.

Thinking about it, painting the yellow over OD in the field would probably face the same issues. It's gonna look like mud soon enough.

Th ARVNs did some of this stuff too, later.

In your photo of the group, doesn't the front tank have a canvas mantlet cover?

 

Bill

 

 

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Posted by Real G on Sunday, July 12, 2020 9:26 AM

Hey Stik, how did you do the yellow?  It is a notoriously difficult color to lay down over other colors without extensive prep.  The M46’s yellow paint is solid looking!

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Posted by M1GarandFan on Saturday, July 11, 2020 11:46 PM

Wow! Is that yellow ever bright. I'm sure it'll get toned down eventually, but right now its stunning.

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Posted by Sergeant on Saturday, July 11, 2020 10:33 PM

stikpusher

Yellow base for the stripes on now....

 

 

 

I think that I need to extend the yellow on the fender areas forward a bit...

 

Carlos, I looked at several pictures of how the actual tank was painted and noticed the yellow varied quite a bit in how far forward it went on the fenders. However, I agree with you the yellow on the fenders is like the legs with claws hanging down.

Harold

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, July 11, 2020 6:53 PM

Yellow base for the stripes on now....

 

 

 

I think that I need to extend the yellow on the fender areas forward a bit...

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, July 10, 2020 8:46 PM

Well, after weeks of having this thing stare at me in all black on my workbench, mocking me, I had to add the OD. It did not go quite as intended... compressor problems, and finding out that Mission Models paints do NOT airbrush well when highly thinned... but overall I’m good with it so far...

 

 

 

maybe the yellow base for the tiger face tomorrow...

 

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Posted by GreySnake on Wednesday, June 24, 2020 10:18 AM
Great work so far Stik! Looking forward to seeing some paint on the M46.
 
 
I’ll second the black and white technique. I’ve been doing it on my last few builds and it really makes the model pop especially when the model is all one color.  

 
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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, June 23, 2020 11:33 AM

Real G

Also, for highlighting green paint jobs, use something like Dunkelgelb instead of white, as it does not impart a chalky look to the green and gives the paint more "life".

This is where the fun begins; look forward to color application Stik!

 

Hmmmm, I'll give the Dunkelgelb a whirl. Thanks!!! 

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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, June 22, 2020 6:45 PM

Thanks for the suggestions guys. I’m not sure which tone if OD I want to go with... more brown or more green... decisions, decisions...

 

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Posted by Real G on Monday, June 22, 2020 6:21 PM

Also, for highlighting green paint jobs, use something like Dunkelgelb instead of white, as it does not impart a chalky look to the green and gives the paint more "life".

This is where the fun begins; look forward to color application Stik!

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, June 22, 2020 4:45 PM

Good eye there on the storage rack. And she looks good in black!

I haven't tried the black and white technique yet. I generally just spray a couple of coats adding a little white to the OD as I move up the vehicle.

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Posted by hogfanfs on Saturday, June 20, 2020 10:09 AM

Carlos,

It's comes from the Spanish School of modeling Black & White Technique.

I didn't do fully what is described in the technique, but, i do like the results. It gives a non-camouflage base (American Olive Drab, Russian Green, and IDF Grey) some interest, on what is otherwise a bland base. 

I'll be doing this on the M1A1 I started building. 

Anyway, I like the progress on your M46, and I'm looking forward to how you weather this beast!

 

 Bruce

 

 On the bench:  1/48 Eduard MiG-21MF

                        1/35 Takom Merkava Mk.I

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, June 19, 2020 9:56 PM

Hmm That’s a technique that I’ve never seen or heard of before... very interesting... thanks for sharing  that! 

 

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U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by hogfanfs on Friday, June 19, 2020 5:14 PM

stikpusher

Bruce, are you talking about using a white base under the yellow areas? I am thinking of doing that. But I don’t want the yellow too vivid.

 

 
Carlos,
 
I'm talking about painting the entire tank black, then paint some of the larger areas white to get a contrast in the top layer color.
 
Here is what I did on a Merkava:
 
And what it looked like after the base coat was applied:
 
 

 Bruce

 

 On the bench:  1/48 Eduard MiG-21MF

                        1/35 Takom Merkava Mk.I

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, June 19, 2020 5:09 PM

Harold, black basing is still something that I’m getting the hang of. I’ve only done it maybe a half dozen times at most. But I’m confident that this will come out looking good.

Bruce, are you talking about using a white base under the yellow areas? I am thinking of doing that. But I don’t want the yellow too vivid.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by hogfanfs on Friday, June 19, 2020 2:48 PM

Carlos,

Are you going to do the black and white? Or just blackbase? Looking really good so far! 

 Bruce

 

 On the bench:  1/48 Eduard MiG-21MF

                        1/35 Takom Merkava Mk.I

 

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Posted by Sergeant on Friday, June 19, 2020 2:10 PM

Carlos, this is the point where I get a little nervous. With all your work on assembly and primer the finish is critical, but I know you have done this a hundred times.

Harold 

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, June 19, 2020 2:10 PM

Thanks M1! Next up, some OD... Stick out tongue

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by M1GarandFan on Friday, June 19, 2020 1:07 PM

That's lookin' real sharp Stik. 

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, June 19, 2020 11:01 AM

So I took a long pause on this trying to decide how I was going to approach painting the turret. Particularly if it was yellow or OD on top, and far around the rear the yellow went. So I looked for any photos that I could find of 6th Tank Btn. during this time frame. And after looking and looking again at them I noticed several things. Turret top color could be yellow or OD, but then afterlookng at many photos, particularly this one with many in it, some construction details appeared. They all did not have the right side turret stowage rack. Also many had a Browning M1919 .30 cal. placed into the standard .50 cal. pintle mount because the .50 had a second one installed over the gunners roof periscope for the commander to use. Lastly, there look to be grab handles welded onto the turret bustle sides.

 

 

So I removed the side rack, retextured that area with a grinding bit in my Dremel, added the grab handles, modified the original pintle mount to accept a .30 from my spares bin, and opened up the antenna mounts for some music wire antennas...

 

Before

 

 

 

After

 

 

 

 

And then yesterday I airbrushed on a base coat of Tamiya Flat Black in preparation for the painting

 

 

 

 

More to come soon...

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, May 25, 2020 10:19 AM

Nice work, you're making great progress. 

Looking forward to seeing how you do the yellow on the tiger face.  I thought about trying it on a Takom T29 but decided I didn't feel like the extra work and just went with olive drab all over. 

 

BTW I read somewhere, I don't remember now, that the tiger is considered a guardian spirit by the Koreans. So it seems the tiger face was also to boost moral in friendly troops. 

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, May 24, 2020 12:44 PM

Thanks Harold. I’m gonna black base the hull, especially the OD areas. Not sure how I’m gonna approach the turret yet due to the scheme. I have to ponder over the color scheme on there, as it’s most.y yellow with black and white tiger stripes. 

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by Sergeant on Sunday, May 24, 2020 12:03 PM

I'm watching Carlos, to see how you do the primer and paint.

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