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WIP - 1/16 scale T-34/85 - Update April 16

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WIP - 1/16 scale T-34/85 - Update April 16
Posted by Yann Solo on Tuesday, January 23, 2007 5:45 AM

Here is my appreciation of the Trumpeter 1/16 scale T-34/85 model 1944 Factory no. 174

What is the first word that comes into your mind when you open the box? Huge.  What comes secondly?  Quality of molding.  Even the numbers on the sprues are crisp.  I can see no flash and only a very few ejector pin marks that will not be difficult to deal with.

The box claims:
-Total plastic parts: 845
-Metal parts: Brass wire for the tow cable and springs for the suspension.
-Photo etched parts: 2 frets (mainly ammo magazine and grills)
-Total sprues: 28 sprues plus lower hull, upper hull, lower turret, upper turret, 78 toothed track links, 78 flat track links, 20 rubber trims, one clear headlight.

Everything is very well packed like we use to see in Trumpeter's boxes lately.

The turret is individually packed in a nice cardboard box.

There is also a separate box for the rubber trims and indy tracks.

The two hull halves are in a separate box also along with the decals, two PE frets, a bag of copper wire for the tow cable and springs for the suspension. (Yes workable suspension) also a sprue of poly caps and a clear lens for the headlight.


The road wheels also comes in a separate box.

The rest of the parts are on the sprues in individual plastic bags.  I will not show you the complete sprues cause they are too big and I would have to zoom out so all the details would be loss.  Instead, I'll show you some of the finest details but first, just so you can have an idea of the scale of that beast, here is a shot of my 1/35 M36 Jackson next to the turret.

And here is how it looks next to the two hull halves.

As you can see on these two images, the surface texture and the weldings are quite nice.


The individual tracks are workable and nicely done.  There are some pin marks on the inside of the tracks but they are quite subtil.

The texture is present on most of the parts and looks very realistic in my opinion.  Here is a close-up of the turret ring where you can see the texture but also the fine details of the gear.

The radio components are nicely molded and for those who wants to build this kit out of the box, the wires are there on most of the electrical equipments and are more than acceptable even for a kit of that scale.



The machine guns are nice too but could have been better defined for that scale.


The gun breech is beautifull but as you can see in this picture, mine was damaged.  This is the only damage I noticed in my kit tough.

Here you can see the driver's hatch, note that the hinges are workable.  What you see on the hatch is the normal texture, these are not pinholes.

Here are some pictures of other parts where you can appreciate the quality of molding and level of details.











Finally, you can have a good idea of what to expect from the kit by looking at the instructions.  These are really clear and easy to follow.



The painting markings guide is the now classic colored drawings from Trumpeter.  Nicely done.

This kit is in my opinion one of the best investment you can make into a model.  Compared to what Tamiya offers at that scale, this kit is as nicely done but at a very lower price. I'm about ready to start that project as I have a very good reference CD from "Toadsman's Pictures" and I'm about to receive the "T-34 Mythical Weapon" book from AirConnection.

 In the next weeks, I'll try to build and super detail that T-34 the best I can.  And I will post picture of my progress.  I know Terry and Treadwell also have a similar kit and it will be a challenge for me to come up with something to their standard.

More to follow ......

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Posted by FingersEddie on Tuesday, January 23, 2007 6:14 AM
Jeeeeeeeeeeesuusssss! I'm lost for words! Sorry I cannot comment, you've jus' blown me away!!Shock [:O]
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Posted by Carves on Tuesday, January 23, 2007 6:34 AM

Yann, are you saying that you will only build 1 huge tank for 2007 ? Laugh [(-D]

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Posted by Yann Solo on Tuesday, January 23, 2007 7:01 AM

 FingersEddie wrote:
Jeeeeeeeeeeesuusssss! I'm lost for words! Sorry I cannot comment, you've jus' blown me away!!Shock [:O]

You gotta have one of these Eddie.  I'm sure you would turn it into a masterpiece.

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Posted by Yann Solo on Tuesday, January 23, 2007 7:03 AM
 Carves wrote:

Yann, are you saying that you will only build 1 huge tank for 2007 ? Laugh [(-D]

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Ben

You're probably right!Big Smile [:D]  But it will be ONE awesome build.

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Posted by fantomfixer on Tuesday, January 23, 2007 9:38 AM
Isn't that some kit!  I have both the 1944 and 1942 versions in my waiting-to-be-built stash.  Trumpeter really got it right when they came out with their 1/16 T-34 series.  Here's hoping their 1/16 half track (reportedly available next fall) is as good!
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Posted by Yann Solo on Tuesday, January 23, 2007 9:55 AM
Oh yeah!  I hear you!  Can't wait to see it.  I just love big scale.
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Posted by wbill76 on Tuesday, January 23, 2007 1:07 PM
You're going to have a lot of fun with it. I built one of their 1942 models way back a couple of years and it was a very very enjoyable process. The larger scale makes the detailing work easier and the only issue is what to do with the finished monster when you're done! Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by zokissima on Tuesday, January 23, 2007 3:15 PM
Allright man! I know you've been talking about this one a while, glad to see you finally crack it open. I'll be watching the thread with much interest.
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Posted by treadwell on Tuesday, January 23, 2007 6:04 PM
congrats Yann !!Big Smile [:D]-- I hope you enjoy the journey --you will learn alot building this kit( about the tank)-- i anxiously await your 'take' on building this kit and look forward to posts as you build-- your gonna love 't-34 mythical weapon'  it is an awsome book -- I just got mine a couple of weeks ago--- keep us posted dude!!Big Smile [:D]--- treadTongue [:P]

   

 

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Posted by disastermaster on Tuesday, January 23, 2007 8:36 PM
 Yann Solo wrote:
 Carves wrote:

Yann, are you saying that you will only build 1 huge tank for 2007 ? Laugh [(-D]

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Ben

You're probably right!Big Smile [:D]  But it will be ONE awesome build.

Black Eye [B)] Oh no!

That means you're going to be all involved with this kit Sigh [sigh] when the 1/16 Tiger II comes out. That's the one I'm waiting for....... 

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Posted by Yann Solo on Tuesday, January 23, 2007 8:48 PM

 zokissima wrote:
Allright man! I know you've been talking about this one a while, glad to see you finally crack it open. I'll be watching the thread with much interest.

I wouldn't expect less than that from you....  Russian Armor freak!Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

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Posted by Yann Solo on Tuesday, January 23, 2007 8:50 PM
 disastermaster wrote:
 Yann Solo wrote:
 Carves wrote:

Yann, are you saying that you will only build 1 huge tank for 2007 ? Laugh [(-D]

---
Ben

You're probably right!Big Smile [:D]  But it will be ONE awesome build.

Black Eye [B)] Oh no!

That means you're going to be all involved with this kit Sigh [sigh] when the 1/16 Tiger II comes out. That's the one I'm waiting for....... 

                                  Steve
 

No no no! Don't worry!  Both the King Tiger and the US Halftrack will end up in my stash whenever they comes out.

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Posted by treadwell on Tuesday, January 23, 2007 9:15 PM
Yann -- the gun breech  looks correct to me except for the small broken off stud- if that is what you are talking about--- no biggy --- easy fixBig Smile [:D]-- treadTongue [:P]

   

 

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Posted by biffa on Tuesday, January 23, 2007 10:57 PM
i have been toying with the idea of getting one of these after following tread and terry's builds and now Yann has to go and do this Smile [:)] the kit looks fantastic and i had no idea of the size till now,, its huge. im really looking forward to see another one of these goin, i'de like to see steve get a KT in this scale goin as well  then get eddie on a m2 halftrack also in this scale and were gonna need a bigger forumBig Smile [:D]
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Posted by Yann Solo on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 5:47 AM

 biffa wrote:
i have been toying with the idea of getting one of these after following tread and terry's builds .....

The tank factory in your basement would not be as productive as it is now Ron.Big Smile [:D]

It would be really cool to see what you can do with such a beast Ron.

 biffa wrote:
..... im really looking forward to see another one of these goin, i'de like to see steve get a KT in this scale goin as well  then get eddie on a m2 halftrack also in this scale and were gonna need a bigger forumBig Smile [:D]

Ha Ha!  I don't know about the forum but I definitely need a bigger workbench!  I use to spread the sprues all over the place when I model.  For that one, I'll have to hang them on the wall I think.

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Posted by terry35 on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 2:29 PM

good luck on the build, if tread  or i can be of any help just hollar, but with an 85 treads the better bet for expertise.

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Posted by IanIsBored2000 on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 2:51 PM
Wow can't wait to see this one started.  By the way, not to direct the attention elsewhere, but after reading Biffa's reply about him thinking about getting one, it made me dream about how something by "The Weathering King" would look in large scale!  
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Posted by Yann Solo on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 3:04 PM

 IanIsBored2000 wrote:
Wow can't wait to see this one started.  By the way, not to direct the attention elsewhere, but after reading Biffa's reply about him thinking about getting one, it made me dream about how something by "The Weathering King" would look in large scale!  

Exactly ...... come on Ron ...... you can do it.

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Posted by Yann Solo on Tuesday, February 6, 2007 8:59 PM

Ok, here are some pictures of my progress on that HUGE 1/16 T-34/85.

First, I had to replace the molded on wiring by something more convincing.


Also, the escape hatch had the retaining brackets molded on in the open position. :shock:   I don't understand that one.  Anyway, I had to scrape them off and reposition them in a locked position.

The back of the seats are missing and I scratchbuilt ones from styrene sheet.

Here are some other molded on details that I replaced.

Now, this is just a dryfit assembly to have a feel of the rear inner details.

And here is the motor.

I plan to open the door on the bulkhead partition wall so we can see the motor through it.  So I'll have to cut the door off and scratchbuild another one.

I also plan to show the tank with its rear panel open.
But it will require some work cause I'll have to rebuild the inner flat bars that is usually used to bolt the rear panel onto.  I'll also have to scrape the bolt heads off and drill holes in place.  The hinges will be workable.


So here is where I am right now.  I'm ready to get some of the interior painted but I'm not sure of what color to use.  Any suggestion welcome, I use Tamiya acrylics.

Thanks for looking and any comments are welcome.

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Posted by biffa on Tuesday, February 6, 2007 11:01 PM
couldnt tell ya what paint to use only that your gonna need alot of it heh Big Smile [:D] nice work so far yann, i have too many kits to build at the moment but i am watching ebay closely incase i see an offer i cant refuse, keep up the progress.
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Posted by zokissima on Wednesday, February 7, 2007 9:45 AM
Freaking fantastic. Moving along pretty fast on this huge beast.
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Posted by Gun Tech on Wednesday, February 7, 2007 4:32 PM

 zokissima wrote:
Freaking fantastic. Moving along pretty fast on this huge beast.

Sign - Ditto [#ditto]      Good progress in a short time Yan. The wiring looks very convincing.

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Posted by FingersEddie on Thursday, February 8, 2007 6:39 AM
Yann, it looks stunnin'! I bet its a real refreshin' experience, to work like this on such a large scale, huh?! Fewer frustrations too, huh?!
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Posted by Yann Solo on Thursday, February 8, 2007 7:21 AM

 FingersEddie wrote:
Yann, it looks stunnin'! I bet its a real refreshin' experience, to work like this on such a large scale, huh?! Fewer frustrations too, huh?!

Oh yeah!  I've seen almost the same level of details on a 1/72 scale T-34/85 and I must say I'm not talented enough to achive this.  That's why I like big scale.  I can scratchbuilt and super detail more easily.  1/35 is the smallest I will ever do.

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Posted by Yann Solo on Sunday, February 11, 2007 6:20 PM

Here is a quick update on my build.  I maneged to do some wiring inside.  I also installed rods on the drivers controls.  The model was not very accurate and the cam shaft (transfer shaft????) was missing.  This is located undr the driver'S seat and all controls are linked to it before going at the back of the tank.  So I digged in the sparebox and scratchbult one.



It's not finished, there is still some parts to install, like springs on the steering sticks.  Here is a picture of the spring I made with copper wire. (it is not attach where it is supposed to.)

Now I need your opinion:  I've read that the complete interior was painted white and the instructions says that also (I know, instructions are most of the time wrong) but in the reference color pictures I have in both the Airconnection book and the Toadsman CD the walls and ceiling are white but the floor look like a greyish green.  BUT, these pictures are the ones of a Polish tank.
Does anyone have any idea of the correct color for a Russian one?

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Posted by K-dawg on Sunday, February 11, 2007 6:24 PM

Super sexy build Yann... That looks fantastic...

 

Ribbit Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

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Posted by Gun Tech on Monday, February 12, 2007 2:46 PM
Oh yeah!  Details details details Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by FingersEddie on Monday, February 12, 2007 3:12 PM
Aww man, that looks so amazin', Yann! It looks stunnin' and amazin', even. I'll give you a high five on this one Yann, knockout progress!
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Posted by treadwell on Monday, February 12, 2007 7:24 PM
YannBig Smile [:D]-- you are going so fast you are gonna pass me up!!Big Smile [:D]-- nice going so far--the interior of the fighting compartment for russian produced vehichles during wwII was white-- floor and sides-- not like the Polish manufactored vehichles or restorations you may have seen---i used MM acrilic flat white with a little aircraft interior black mixed in to kill some of the brightness-- the inside of the drivers' hatch could be either white or exterior color-- both are correct-- best of luck--- treadwell--Tongue [:P]

   

 

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