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WIP - 1/16 scale T-34/85 - Update April 16

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Posted by biffa on Wednesday, April 18, 2007 1:03 PM
From strength to strength Yann i love seeing these 1/16 updates from you guys, i seriously have to try one of these beasts.
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Posted by T-rex on Wednesday, April 18, 2007 10:28 AM

Nice, I'm sure the juges will like it, and with a tank that big, it could kill a real catSmile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Rock on kitty killer rock on!

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Posted by FingersEddie on Wednesday, April 18, 2007 7:58 AM
Genius work on that seat Yann. Totally so! Amazin' work overall.
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Posted by Yann Solo on Tuesday, April 17, 2007 5:58 PM

Thanks tread,

Yes I have plans for the markings, I'll do it myself.  It will be a "Kitty Killer" Isn't cool.  Here is what inspired me.

http://ausfwerks.com//store/ausfwear/1708/T.html

I will buy the t-shirt also and wear it at the competition.

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Posted by treadwell on Tuesday, April 17, 2007 4:21 PM
looking goodBig Smile [:D]Yann!!--- you will be done soon I am sure!-- any plans for markings on the turret, or you gonna go with decals or what?  Hussar makes some nice alternate choices-- treadCool [8D]

   

 

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Posted by RBaer on Tuesday, April 17, 2007 1:17 PM
Totally awesome. "Honey, I shrunk the tank!"

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Posted by bufflehead on Monday, April 16, 2007 6:52 PM

Wire, sanding and painting....riiiiiight!! We all know thats a photo of a real leather seat!!  Did you take apart a bar stool for the photo? Laugh [(-D]  JK!!  That is amazing!!  Great work sir, I love your handmade weld beads!  Apoxie Sculpt is really nice stuff!  I am just starting to use it and love the way it works.  Nice, nice work Cptn Solo!! 

Ernest

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Posted by Yann Solo on Monday, April 16, 2007 10:04 AM

Thanks T-rex. 

Actually, most details will be seen thru the hatches that will be hinged.  And the turret will be removable if you want to have a closer look inside.

Concerning the mine-roller ...... I'm finishing this tank first.  Then I'll probably finish my Bismarck and pickup truck before getting back to it.  My plan is to have it finished by the end of summer so I can bring it to a local show/competition.  Thanks for asking.

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Posted by T-rex on Monday, April 16, 2007 9:35 AM

Excelent job so far, still the best tank I've ever seen, I like the welding mark on the tank looks real, the inside of tghe turret is good too but why did you bother to do that when the viewers won't see it when the model is complete?

How is it going with the mine rollers?

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Posted by Yann Solo on Monday, April 16, 2007 8:30 AM

Thanks for your comments Marc.

Ok, first you need to know that there is no rule about casting turrets and if you take the T-34 for example, there are about 10 different models of turret built with different techniques (welded steel plates, two pârt casting, four part casting, etc...) with different molding qualities and mold forms.  Depending on which mold was used at which factory, during or after the war.  You really have to make an extensive research to be fully accurate.

For my tank, I haven't completed the research yet cause I was not at that step but I saw several pictures of the fact. no.174 one and I must say I'll have to add some texture cause the finish was really rough on these things.

The line you see on the turret is a seam line on the existing turret but it is too clean to be used as is.  I might modify it using Apoxie Sculpt.

Let's say that line is a mold line from the kit and shouldn't be there.  I would simply scrape it off with my x-acto knife and/or sandpaper and then I could add texture with a dremel rotary tool.  The idea is to gently touch the surface for a second here and there to damage the surface lightly.

Get some practice on a piece of styrene first.  It's not hard but you need to get it right on the model so ....

Hope this is of some help.

Yann

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Posted by wing_nut on Monday, April 16, 2007 8:13 AM

No comments other than it look great. The wire on the seat looks terrific.  Not 100% sure but that might be called a "bead". Sounds like something I may have heard on The Learning Channel once.

I do have a question regarding real tank construction.  Would the sides of the turret be cast as a single piece?  Or would there be welds at corners like around the top.  I ask because I really have more than one question.  That line down the side corner in the bottom photo... Is that a mold line in the kit or does it represent where 2 parts of a real casting mold may be.  Last one... really... if it's not supposed to be there... what is your technique for getting it off when there is a textured surface?  Remember... we "wingnuts" sand everything nice and smooth.   It's an airflow thingWink [;)]... not a big concern when you're punching through a stone wall.

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Posted by Yann Solo on Monday, April 16, 2007 6:54 AM

Here is some more progress.  On the photos of the real tank, it was obvious that the seats are in leather and have that "lip" around them.  I tried to replicate this with a piece of copper wire.  Then  added texture on the seats using a coarse sand paper.

Some paint, wash and dry brushing and it looks not so bad,but it is not the result I was looking for.

Also, I had to scratchbuilt the seat for the loader/machine gun operator.  Here is a start:

It's made of a styrene sheet for the main plate and Apoxie Scult for the cushion.  I still have to add the tubing around it and the straps.

The tank itself is almost done, here is a dryfit test:

Some more work inside the turret.

The indicator for the traverse is scratchbuilt also.

Here are some welding that I did using Apoxie Scult.  It works very well.

Comments are welcome.

 

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Posted by Yann Solo on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 10:18 AM
Oh yeah, I hear you T-rex.  Now I do the thinking first.Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]
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Posted by T-rex on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 9:44 AM

Back from B.C and ready to roll!Captain [4:-)]

Looking good, the exaust pipe lines up with the outer pipe, and make sure that door still can open, keep up the good work!

And don't you hate that you make a little mistake inside and when you try to fix it you accedentaly damage the model and intead of making it better, it got worse. Like when I fix my Mark II I accidentaly place the wheels up side down, the glue was drie and....euh.... rip the piece right off Sign - Oops [#oops] can't say it fine and just thought to myself "wait a minute!.......thinking.....thinking......thinking, realise! shi@#$Censored [censored]". Can't fix it now, unless, wait no that won't work, owell the paint job looking horrible anyway look like it was painted by a clown.

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Posted by CDNTanker25 on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 8:00 AM
Wow Yann!  I am echoing everyone here, but you've definately done alot of work, and the attention to detail is paying off in loads!  Great jub bud!
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Posted by Yann Solo on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 7:17 AM

Thanks for the compliments everyone.

Wingnut: If you want to be accurate, there are alot of differences everywhere.  There is even some difference between tanks of the same model but from different factories.  What you need to do is a complete research on the model and factory number you want to model.  My main references were the Airconnection book: T-34 Mythical Weapon and the CD-ROM from Toadsman here: http://www.toadmanstankpictures.com/index.htm

I think these references are a must for anyone who wants to build a T-34 accurately.  And both are complementary.  There is information and photos in the book that are not on the CD, like the engine and transmission area.  And there is much more interior color pics on the CD than in the book.  One major problem though is that the color photos are mostly from a Polish T-34-85.  That means my T-34 may not be 100% accurate but I don't care too much.

This is the most complex tank I've ever built, there is so much little differences and subtile changes between models that the research is definitely the most important part of the whole process.

I hope you jump in the project, it would be interesting to follow the progress of someone else after I did mine.  I'll be there to help if you decide to do it.

 

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Posted by wing_nut on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 7:02 AM

I can't remember the last time I was in the Armor section and what pulled me in here today.   But went right to this thread and went through every page.

OMG Yann that is just incredible work.  Last year I won the T34/76 1942 in a club raffle and have been itching to build it for a long time.  I can't decide if looking at yours is an inspiration... or making me say, "What's the point...the bar it out of my reach"Wink [;)]   Or maybe I can use yours...and others... as a guideWhistling [:-^]

I found a site where some modelers have super detailed their 1/16 T34's but they are all the 85 not the 76.  Can this still be used a guide? Are the similarities close enough say in the engine area to wire it the way they did?  I know the turrets and guns are different, but what about basic chassis and engine?

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Posted by southern dragon on Monday, April 9, 2007 10:55 AM

Shock [:O]Shock [:O]Bow [bow]Bow [bow]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Make a Toast [#toast]Make a Toast [#toast]

WOW!!!!! THAT IS INCREDIBLE. THE WEATHERING, THE DETAIL, EVERYTHING!!Bow [bow]

sam Cowboy [C):-)]

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Posted by zokissima on Monday, April 9, 2007 9:36 AM
Been looking forwards to the latest update. Great work Yann.
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Posted by ygmodeler4 on Monday, April 9, 2007 8:32 AM
Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 8, 2007 10:47 PM
Looking great!
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Posted by Buddho on Sunday, April 8, 2007 10:21 PM
Holy crap...this is unbelievable! Its like a miniature tank being built right before my eyes! Amazing, Yann.

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Posted by Yann Solo on Sunday, April 8, 2007 9:18 PM

Muchos gracias everyone.

Bill, thanks for the compliment.  I agree that people will look at it but I doubt I win anything, I made too many errors.  As per what I saw last fall, the quality of the finishes was very high.  Do you remember the MIG?

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Posted by Kopfschuss on Sunday, April 8, 2007 6:33 PM
Man that exhaust is the best i've ever seen.  This thing is a beauty. 
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Posted by buff on Sunday, April 8, 2007 9:38 AM
Awesome work Yann.  This is going to be real show-stopper.  Best of Show at Gryffon Expo this year for sure.

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Posted by treadwell on Saturday, April 7, 2007 9:41 PM
hey man-- Yann wrote 'why did you cut the roof?'-- so it could be like my 1/25 and 1/16 tamiya tiger-- lift off roof, expose interior detailSmile [:)]-- but on my 1/16 it meerly gets at the electronics for the r/c-- I will post pics of my t-34 progress in a few days --you will seeSmile [:)]-- treadApprove [^]

   

 

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Posted by detailfreak on Saturday, April 7, 2007 9:32 PM
i'm gonna need a new house.cowabunga thats a fantastic piece of plastic.i would be accussed of loving styrene more than my wife.and you say theres more to come,wholly @$%@,i need a nitro.gotta go.

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Posted by Yann Solo on Saturday, April 7, 2007 8:49 PM

Thanks Chris, yeah apoxie sculpt is a charm to play with.  What you see at the rear is the transmission and I used a mix of Tamiya flat Alumnium and flat white (around 80% - 20%)

Thanks Treadwell, you're right, it is a pain in the @$$.  Way to much things to sand.

Why did you cut the roof?

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Posted by treadwell on Saturday, April 7, 2007 8:35 PM
hey yannBig Smile [:D]-- nice solution to those epm on the lower turret half-- I did mine the 'old fashioned' way and it really almost made me want to quit-( but came out quite nice, just would've been faster your way- (also when I did the turret lower, I did not have a hex punch set-- I DO NOW !!-- lol--Laugh [(-D])--any way dude, I am also working on the turret and I find it much more taxing than the chassis or motor-- did you cut the roof off of your turret? I did on mine -- also a pain in the a$s--good luck to you -- and tell the truth-- isn't this model a frustrating pain in the butt!!?--- lolLaugh [(-D]-- treadTongue [:P]-- p.s. nice fix on the factory 174 style hinges also--

   

 

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