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1:24 Volkswagen T1 Van (Beetle bus) dropped suspension
Posted by Pawel on Monday, September 19, 2016 3:39 PM

Hello Everybody!

It's been over two years now since I'm working for VW in Poland. To have something nice to put on my desk at work I started building a Volkswagen T1.

At first I started to build it for "The 2015 /16 Red Hot and Rollin Automotive Group Build" - but I updated the build so seldom, that it's just a nightmare to try to keep track of it there - so I'm posting it in parallel here.

Of course I can't build OOB any more - I have lost that somewhere underway... I got this kit:

 

I thought since it has this cool paint scheme, it would just be wrong to let it sit on that prehistoric stock suspension and wheels. So I planed to drop the suspension here - put in the suspension and wheels from a BMW like this:

 

 

I got this kit (BMW) on a yard sale, years ago - there were actually ona and half kits and have cost me 2$ - so now I've found out what to do with the leftover parts :-)

 

Here's a photo for a good start:

 

 

I've been working on the chassis of that Bus - did some cleanup, filled some gaps and I cut up the front wheel wells to meke some room for the drop:

 

 

You can also see some parts of the sport Beemer front suspension that will work in my bus - after some mods.

I have deepened the wheel wells and drilled the holes for the shock columns. I also scratchbuilt the engine deck in the rear - it's missing from the van kit, although it's there in Hasegawa's bus kit. The floor now looks like this:

 

This is how the test fit of the front suspension and the engine looked like:

 

 

As you can see I've got the front suspension almost done, with only the track bar to be narrowed some 4mm and springs replaced with copper wire. A prominent feature missing from the Tamiya model was the hot air pipe running from around the engine exhaust to the front of the vehicle for heating. On air-cooled vehicle this was a way to provide heat for the cab and in theory it's a very cool concept - gives you hot air just seconds after starting the engine - if it would only be operable.

 

I'm also trying to give the enigine some volume by building side walls to it, because Tamiya only gives you the underside, and after looking slightly from the side you notice there's nothing there!

I decided against putting the BMW rear suspension in this one and went for something more VW - I have built a T2 style rear suspension here. In order to do that I had to do some eengineering - check out this drawing of mine:

 

According to this drawing I've built the rear suspension:

 

 

Also note the completed hot air tubing. To give you an idea how I simulated the "depth" of the engine, here's a shot from the side that will later not be visible:

 

And this is what I got done in 2015 - scattered over 20 pages of 50 page Group build thread. In the time I have built that, people were turning out 4-5 beautiful car models!

Thanks for reading and I hope you liked it - have a nice day

Paweł

 

 

 

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Posted by Pawel on Monday, September 19, 2016 3:53 PM

Hello!

Here's what I did this year, after getting back to this project:

I have finally completed the front suspension - I had to build the horizontal arms from scratch. I painted them babies using Mr. Hobby metalizers:

I have also strted to work on the interior - it's pretty bare in the Hasegawa model, only has the shifter stick, so I have scratchbuilt the pedals, together with a moon-style gas pedal, and an emergency brake handle:

The rear deck is also painted:

The blue paint will also be the exterior colour.

By the way, can somebody help me? I'm painting the body using Motip car paint from a spray can. I had some minor scratches on the roof from sanding, so I have put a coat of grey primer on the roof and it kinda increased the scratches. So I have sanded it and recoated, maybe three times now and the scratches keep coming back after the paint dries... How can I help that?

Thanks for reading and have a nice day

Paweł

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Posted by mrmike on Monday, September 19, 2016 5:03 PM

Good to see you back Pawel. Have you considered using Mr. Surfacer 1200 or 1500? Works great for filling those little defects.

Best regards;

Mike

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Posted by Pawel on Tuesday, September 20, 2016 2:21 PM

Hello Mike!

Thanks a lot, it's good to be posting again. I'm just trying the Surfacer right now. I have applied it two days ago, lightly sanded it yesterday and today I noticed those damn scratches are showing through the surfacer! Now I'll sand it a little more and let's see if those scratches come back tomorrow - I just feel like they might! Damn, it would be good to understand the science behind this effect...

'Till next time!

Paweł

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Posted by Pawel on Sunday, September 25, 2016 2:14 PM

Hello!

I've got a small update. I have painted the bench seat:

I have also modified and painted the dashboard. The Hasegawa dashboard doesn't show the distinctive shelf in its lower part, so I added it. The indicator lever was also missing, as was the high beam switch. Hasegawa supplies nice decals that go on the gauges and for the steering wheel center. I have cut off the handle and replaced it with wire:

I'm still working on the engine - paint and weathering - and on the body. For now I have sanded the roof so that it's nice and smooth but without penetrating through the primer. I could bet those damn surface marks will show through when I spray the nest layer. If they do, I'll post the photos of it.

For now, thanks for looking and have a nice day

Paweł

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Posted by crown r n7 on Monday, September 26, 2016 10:46 AM

very cool vw!

 

 

 Nick.

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Posted by Pawel on Monday, September 26, 2016 4:09 PM

Thanks a lot!

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Posted by Pawel on Tuesday, September 27, 2016 3:46 PM

Hello!

I could definitely use some help here...

I have sanded the roof of my VW and let it sit for two - three days to get rid of most of the solvent... It looked like this:

Then I have put on a coat of Motip primer-filler. All the imperfecions that were there before the sanding came out again:

 I know that even if I sand it nice and smooth and put the color on those will come out again... What to do? Any help appreciated! Thanks in advance and have a nice day

Paweł

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Tuesday, September 27, 2016 9:23 PM

Ouch.  I wish I had some *** for you on those scratches.

But, I also have to admit that they bring back memories of the self-same VW van I bought used in '77--there were some "wavy" spots on the roof that memory wants to say match what you have there.  But, I'll wager that's fickle memory meeting nostalgia.

My '67 Van had the gasoline heater rather than the manifold heater.  Did not use it much in Texas.  The add-on a/c unit, though . . .

Sold that van after fixing it up to get a '72 Alpine Micro Bus with the itty-bitty transom glazing.  Got that one pretty enough to get offerred enough to sell it.  Turned around and bought a Karman-Ghia.

That Karman-Ghia needed a lot of Bondo.  And Primer.  And more Bondo.  And primer.  Three colors of each, until everything buffed out nice.

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Posted by Pawel on Wednesday, September 28, 2016 3:06 PM

Hello Capn! So nice to hear from you!

I wonder what that word might have been, that our nanny-bot just had to censor!

I'm pretty sure a real-life VW Van roof wouldn't be perfectly straight but rather a little wavy from the strain, guys hopping on it and stuff, but I'm comitted to get my roof a little smoother than it is now.

Those old VW's sure were something special! The legend of them still lives on, also in the factories where new VW's are being built - but the new VW's got carried away with features variants and so on, so it's an entirely different story!

I myself drive a "grand son" of the beetle bus - it's a Transporter 4 (T4). That bus has something like a million kilometers on the odometer (I mean literally - just can't say for sure because I have bought it used and the odo has been "turned back"...).

Thanks for your comment and have a nice day

Paweł

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Posted by DUSTER on Friday, September 30, 2016 8:35 AM

Pawel Good to see your work again. The blue colo(u)r will be great.

Wish I had a magic bullet for the roof; my only thought is that with the work history of what you have done, may be to strip it back down to the original plastic then after another sanding with fine grade sandpaper; cover the whole roof with something like milliput,  thinned to a paste like consistency.  Or perhaps some of the "Perfect Putty” The idea would be to coat the original plastic so that following coats of primer and paint would be kept separate from the plastic (in your photo the scratches look, to me, like a chemical reaction not sanding scratches).

No doubt you will win out in the end; giving me another high goal to try to attain…. just as I've  figured out how to get the Tamiya Thin open without spilling it-sigh

 

Steve

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Posted by M. Brindos on Friday, September 30, 2016 11:05 PM

That fabrication work on the suspension is blowing my mind, Pawel! That is top notch!

I agree with Duster. Looks like a chem reaction. I think his idea is worth a try. Perhaps some Bondo Spot and Glazing putty would suffice?

- Mike Brindos "Lost Boy"

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Posted by Pawel on Saturday, October 1, 2016 12:15 PM

Hello!

DUSTER - thanks a lot for your kind words, glad to have you on my thread here! As for the roof - I think I made some progress. I have sprayed three light coats of Motip spray FILLER on the roof with drying, sanding and again some drying between the coats and the result is like on the photo below:

So thanks for all the ideas and I will start trying them out when this thing goes bad again - that is if the surface imperfections come up again.

Mike - good to see you here! Thanks a lot for your kind words! I just had to do something with the interior, it was so bare, even for an early VW!

During the time when paint was drying I started finishing the wheels. I painted the BMW rims with Alclad 2 prismatic paint. I also sanded out the seams on the slick tyres. I also painted the disc brakes with Gunze Stainless paint and painted the calipers red:

Now let's see how the further painting of the body goes - thanks for lookin' and I hope you liked it. Best greetings and have a nice day

Paweł

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Posted by SprueOne on Saturday, October 1, 2016 9:22 PM

Nice recovery with the roof. This is gonna be an interesting project.

 

 

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Posted by Pawel on Tuesday, October 4, 2016 2:22 PM

SprueOne - thanks a lot! The filler seems to do the trick. I have also found three other minor spots that need such treatment. But I hope to start putting the colour on at the end of this week.

Thanks for looking and have a nice day

Paweł

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Posted by mustang1989 on Tuesday, October 4, 2016 3:50 PM

Verrrrrrrrrry nice build Pawel. I like the kit bashing idea and plans. Looks as though you're carrying them out quite well and that roof looks fantastic now. Great recovery!

                   

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Posted by DUSTER on Sunday, October 9, 2016 8:27 PM

Great job on the roof Pawel. The wheels look amaizing.

Steve

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Posted by Pawel on Monday, October 10, 2016 5:32 PM

Joe, Steve - thanks a lot for your comments and for your kind words. I'm glad you like the wheels! The Motip FILLER seemed to do the trick. Took me a little longer than I have thought, but now I'm ready for the colour. Thanks for stopping by and have a nice day

Paweł

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Posted by Pawel on Sunday, October 16, 2016 7:46 AM

Hello!

I've got the colour on - at last!

1:24 Hasegawa Volkswagen Type 2 by Pawel

1:24 Hasegawa Volkswagen Type 2 by Pawel

Now I plan to dry-fit all the chrome and put on the decals and clear-coat the whole body. I would just like to ask you - how do you like those decals??

Thanks for looking and have a nice day

Paweł

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Posted by ardvark002 on Wednesday, October 19, 2016 9:46 PM
Pawel I'm working on a revell VW T1 panel van, turning it into a snow cat. Using the tracks from a tv series , " lost in space" chariot loosing the front axle to shorten. Hope it will turn out good. Like your build, looks great. Aardvark
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Posted by Pawel on Thursday, October 20, 2016 2:06 PM

Hello Aardvark - thanks a lot for your message!

Snow cat? Sure sounds surprising, but I have seen photos of people doing it 1:1...

The Revell model is much more detailed than the Hasegawa. Then again, Hasegawa has a solid, one-piece body that sometimes is better if you want to hack it up. Revell is better if you want to show open doors or something like that.

So good luck with your project and please be sure to post some photos! Thanks for your kind words and have a nice day

Paweł

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Posted by crown r n7 on Thursday, October 20, 2016 4:56 PM

Awesome job 

 

 

 Nick.

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Posted by Pawel on Friday, October 21, 2016 3:37 PM

Hello crown r n7!

Thanks a lot, glad you like it! After a week the paint should be more or less dry, now I will try to put the flames on, since nobody has any problem with that (maybe with the exceptions of my woman...). Then I want to clear-coat it.

Thanks for reading, have a nice day

Paweł

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Posted by Pawel on Sunday, November 27, 2016 5:35 AM

Hello everybody!

It's been a month since the last update - a time filled with thrill and adventure!

As I expected, putting on the decals (it's Hasegawa!) didn't go as smooth as I wished. I still don't know how to work with them, I'll have to make it my next research project. What I know is you can use MicroSet on those decals, sparingly, but what you can't do is to soak 'em up in decal solution and wait for the solution to do it's work. This causes Hasegawa decals to wrinkle up badly and then they stay this way. Want to know how I found out?

Here is my bus after putting the decals on:

1:24 Hasegawa Volkswagen Type 2 by Pawel

1:24 Hasegawa Volkswagen Type 2 by Pawel

 Looks quite nice from far away, but once you look closer... Plus the rear flame wrinkled beyound any repair from MicroSet alone:

1:24 Hasegawa Volkswagen Type 2 by Pawel

1:24 Hasegawa Volkswagen Type 2 by Pawel

Here's when the time came for tough decisions. I decided to remove the "middle" flames and just keep the top and bottom ones, because they went on best. I figured less is more here. I soaked the decals to be removed with solvaset and took them down with an old toothbrush.

After that I put on about four layers of Gunze Top Coat Gloss from a spray bottle, with some sanding with 2500 grit sandpaper between the coats, trying to blend the somewhat thick decals in. Lots of drying time between the coats, too - this is why it took me so long to post the next update. After the last coat had a few days to dry I sanded the orange peel with 2500 grit sandpaper, let it dry one day more and then I polished the scratches out with "Tempo" polishing compound - it's a very nice compound made in Czech republic. Here are the results:

1:24 Hasegawa Volkswagen Type 2 by Pawel

Nice sky reflection, eh?

1:24 Hasegawa Volkswagen Type 2 by Pawel

1:24 Hasegawa Volkswagen Type 2 by Pawel

1:24 Hasegawa Volkswagen Type 2 by Pawel

1:24 Hasegawa Volkswagen Type 2 by Pawel

Now I can finally fit the glass and put everything together. Thanks for looking and have a nice day

Paweł

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Posted by mustang1989 on Sunday, November 27, 2016 6:12 AM

That looks pretty dang good Pawel. I like the flames on the topside. Nice work man! Yes

                   

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Posted by Pawel on Sunday, November 27, 2016 2:11 PM

Thanks a lot for your kind words, Joe! Now I'm thrilled about putting it all together!

Paweł

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Saturday, December 3, 2016 11:24 PM

Looks almost nicer than the factory finish.

That blue is spot on the factory color.  But, I do not remember that much clear coating on it Smile

Mind, I bought all my VW in junkyards, not dealerships, and that was more than 40 years agao, so, my recollections may be skewed.

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Posted by DUSTER on Sunday, December 4, 2016 12:21 AM

Bow Down WOW Pawel, what a sptacular job of "flamming"  and finishing the paint coat. 

Dobra robota     (per Google  )

Steve

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Posted by Toshi on Sunday, December 4, 2016 8:01 AM

Nice coat of finish on her.  I especially love the flames.  Great job sir.

Toshi

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Posted by Pawel on Sunday, December 4, 2016 3:40 PM

Hello everybody!

After days of silence here I almost lost hope, so thanks a lot gennulmen, for your kind comments!

Capn - I was hoping to do that - to get a finish nicer than factory on a custom! So thanks a lot. Ahh, the old days - when cars were repairable, isn't it so, Capn? Nowadays even if you can straighten the sheet metal, get all the hard-to-get parts including the electronics, you still have to get past all the coding to make everything work - or to make anything at all work... Thanks a lot for your comment!

Steve - thanks a lot! I'd like to hear "dobra robota" everyday!

Toshi - thank you very much! And please call me Paweł - Sir is way to official for me!

This is a good moment for a little update. Side mirrors - even though it is a Hasegawa kit, it was easier to scratchbuild new mirrors than to clean up (and rechrome!) the OOB mirrors. I made their posts out of wire and used my dremel to turn out the round parts. The mirrors themselves are BMF, and the chrome is a cheap spray paint:

1:24 Hasegawa Volkswagen Type 2 by Pawel

1:24 Hasegawa Volkswagen Type 2 by Pawel

As you can see, the OOB mirror has a nasty sink mark, fairly large sprue attachment point and the worst - there is a hinge/mirror attachment point molded on. This little part should be body colour, not chrome. That's why I built the hinge out of 1,5mm styrene and painted it together with the body. It's pointed to in the picture below by the red arrow. On the same picture you can see the painted door window framing - that's Gunze Mr Metal Color chrome silver and Humbrol 33 black:

1:24 Hasegawa Volkswagen Type 2 by Pawel

I also finally made the exhaust, together with the final muffler. The muffler was painted with a mixture of Humbrol 53 Gun Metal and Humbrol 186 brown. The exhaust pipes are 2mm brass tubing painted with the same cheap spray:

1:24 Hasegawa Volkswagen Type 2 by Pawel

To mount it I had to modify the rear bumper. I didn't want to touch it because of the chrome, but I had to, anyway, because it had really nasty mold seams on its ends. It got the same cheap spray treatment the mirrors and the pipes got, but I think maybe I will have to redo it:

1:24 Hasegawa Volkswagen Type 2 by Pawel

And that's it for now - thanks a lot for reading and have a nice day

Paweł

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