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                        Roll Bar Padding

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                        therriman
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                          January 2003
                        • From: Central MI
                        Roll Bar Padding
                        Posted by therriman on Friday, July 11, 2003 7:05 PM
                        Has anyone got anything special they do to simulate Roll Bar Padding in a NASCAR Winston Cup car?

                        I'm doing Davey Allison's rookie year car and was torn between just painting the padded area's black or maybe use black tape wrapped length-wise around the roll bar. That would cause another problem as the tape will start to peel off with time.Sad [:(]

                        What do you guys usually do???
                        Tim H. "If your alone and you meet a Zero, run like hell. Your outnumbered" Capt Joe Foss, Guadalcanal 1942 Real Trucks have 18 wheels. Anything less is just a Toy! I am in shape. Hey, Round is a shape! Reality is a concept not yet proven.
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                        gregers
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                          February 2003
                        • From: UK
                        Posted by gregers on Saturday, July 12, 2003 7:33 AM
                        Hi one idea that i had / used and think looks ok was to use "duck tape" cut into the width i need and wrapped around the roll cage then painted mat black. i would try it on some sprue first to make sure it looks right for your model because if it isn't it won't come off your cage it's been on my Escort rallycar for 8 years now and hasn't peeled yet. hope this helps...Greg Cool [8D]
                        Why torture yourself when life will do it for you?
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 12, 2003 3:58 PM
                        If the cage is in pieces I have used shrink wrap tubing and it looks great.
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                        therriman
                        • Member since
                          January 2003
                        • From: Central MI
                        Posted by therriman on Saturday, July 12, 2003 4:17 PM
                        OOPS!!!!!!!!

                        I already put all but 2 pieces of the roll cage together (I wanted to get them painted as one).

                        Oh well it's looking like the winner will be duct tape. Thanks guys.
                        Tim H. "If your alone and you meet a Zero, run like hell. Your outnumbered" Capt Joe Foss, Guadalcanal 1942 Real Trucks have 18 wheels. Anything less is just a Toy! I am in shape. Hey, Round is a shape! Reality is a concept not yet proven.
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                        LoneWolf1Seven
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                          March 2003
                        • From: Colorado
                        Posted by LoneWolf1Seven on Sunday, July 13, 2003 2:08 PM
                        You could use insulation from electricial wire. Cut the wire to the length you want, then cut it down the middle length wise, pull the wire out and press it over the area you cut it to length for and you're done. Wire comes in many different colors, sizes and is permanently pliable, thus making it a model necessity. I've gone as far as using fine wire for fingers on 1/35 scale figures. Anyway I hope it works out with what ever you use and I would like to see it when you finish it.....
                        "When you're gambling always put your money heads down, never let money look you in the face!" "If I die before I wake, hit the snooze button for me!!!"
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                        gregers
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                        • From: UK
                        Posted by gregers on Sunday, July 13, 2003 4:42 PM
                        Hi Tim. Lonewolfs idea sounds better than mine. I'll try that one when i (eventually) build that Tamia Zakspeed Capri..Cheers Lonewolf....Greg
                        Why torture yourself when life will do it for you?
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                        therriman
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                        • From: Central MI
                        Posted by therriman on Sunday, July 13, 2003 7:06 PM
                        I like the wire insulation idea. You know I think I got just the right size stuff in my garage. Cool tip, thanks Lonewolf.
                        Tim H. "If your alone and you meet a Zero, run like hell. Your outnumbered" Capt Joe Foss, Guadalcanal 1942 Real Trucks have 18 wheels. Anything less is just a Toy! I am in shape. Hey, Round is a shape! Reality is a concept not yet proven.
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 17, 2003 4:23 PM
                        Hello,

                        All sound like great methods so, I figured I would add my two cents in here; You could also use electrical friction tape which would give the the matte black finish without the painting. But, I do like the idea of using heat shrink tubing once I have painted the pieces individually for a much tighter fit without the hassle of any peeling later in life. But, I would imagine that using any of the methods would last for many years and who knows by then you may be ready for a different look for that particular kit.

                        George
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 21, 2003 7:33 AM
                        Tim,

                        I was going through some old issues of SAE this weekend and found an article where a guy used model railroading tar(?) for insulation. The issue was back from 2000(April I think?). When I get home tonight I'll see if I can find it and shoot it on over to you. The completed project looked very convincing.

                        Carlos
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 23, 2003 11:37 AM
                        Ok, found the article.
                        Actually what it turned out to be was a breif description of what one person used in their rally car.
                        Anyway, he used model railroad self adhesive asphalt.
                        Sounds like it should work!
                        Sorry to take so long to resopnd!
                        Good luck,

                        Carlos
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                        therriman
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                          January 2003
                        • From: Central MI
                        Posted by therriman on Wednesday, July 23, 2003 6:42 PM
                        Carlos, If you could scan it and e-mail me I would like to see it. Or you could copy and send snail-mail. No real hurry though (I only have 4 models going right now).Tongue [:P]
                        Tim H. "If your alone and you meet a Zero, run like hell. Your outnumbered" Capt Joe Foss, Guadalcanal 1942 Real Trucks have 18 wheels. Anything less is just a Toy! I am in shape. Hey, Round is a shape! Reality is a concept not yet proven.
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 24, 2003 9:48 AM
                        Hi all,

                        I am mainly an Armor modeler but, I have about 10 NASCAR Winston cup kits under my belt. This is a project I am working on...Dale's Daytona victory car.

                        I used GB shrink tubing for the roll bar padding. To tie it on, I dipped black thread in white Elmers glue and wiped off the excess with my finger (the glue will help strengthen the thread) I let it dry overnite. I cut a slit on one side of the tubing, slid it onto the roll cage and tied. It's time consuming but, it looks realistic.



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                        therriman
                        • Member since
                          January 2003
                        • From: Central MI
                        Posted by therriman on Thursday, July 24, 2003 10:20 AM
                        Looks Great!!!!!!!!!
                        Tim H. "If your alone and you meet a Zero, run like hell. Your outnumbered" Capt Joe Foss, Guadalcanal 1942 Real Trucks have 18 wheels. Anything less is just a Toy! I am in shape. Hey, Round is a shape! Reality is a concept not yet proven.
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 24, 2003 8:49 PM
                        Erock 68, that looks great!!! I'm going to have to try that on my NASCARs. Thanks for the info.

                        BTW, did you apply any heat to the tubing after tying it down, to shrink it a bit, or did you just leave it?

                        Ray
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 24, 2003 9:52 PM
                        No heat applied. I did put a small amount of white glue on the bar before adding the tubing. This helps keep it in place while tying.
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 28, 2003 9:19 AM
                        I'll try to get theat article to you, but I think Erock68's idea looks better!

                        Carlos
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 28, 2003 8:15 PM
                        Erock68, that looks great!
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                        therriman
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                          January 2003
                        • From: Central MI
                        Posted by therriman on Tuesday, July 29, 2003 9:01 AM
                        Erock68, that does look great.

                        I used the black wire insulation suggestion this weekend. I think looks good. I'm trying to buy a digital camera. When I do I'll post a pic and see what you guys think of the result.
                        Tim H. "If your alone and you meet a Zero, run like hell. Your outnumbered" Capt Joe Foss, Guadalcanal 1942 Real Trucks have 18 wheels. Anything less is just a Toy! I am in shape. Hey, Round is a shape! Reality is a concept not yet proven.
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 8:34 AM
                        Holy crap that looks fantastic. Just in time for the project I'm doing too.
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 11:29 AM
                        therriman,
                        I could scan it in and send it out, but it really doesn't have much more description than what I wrote before, and the photo did look good, but there wasn't a whole lot of detail to see.
                        I'll get it to you this weekend!
                        Carlos
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                        therriman
                        • Member since
                          January 2003
                        • From: Central MI
                        Posted by therriman on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 7:25 PM
                        Carlos, that works.
                        Tim H. "If your alone and you meet a Zero, run like hell. Your outnumbered" Capt Joe Foss, Guadalcanal 1942 Real Trucks have 18 wheels. Anything less is just a Toy! I am in shape. Hey, Round is a shape! Reality is a concept not yet proven.
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                        therriman
                        • Member since
                          January 2003
                        • From: Central MI
                        Posted by therriman on Saturday, August 30, 2003 4:20 PM
                        Ok, I finally got a digital camera and here are 2 photos of the roll bar padding. I used the insulation from some Black electrical wire. I know the photos are blurry. I'm still trying to figure this out.




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                        Tim H. "If your alone and you meet a Zero, run like hell. Your outnumbered" Capt Joe Foss, Guadalcanal 1942 Real Trucks have 18 wheels. Anything less is just a Toy! I am in shape. Hey, Round is a shape! Reality is a concept not yet proven.
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                        Jim Barton
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                          February 2003
                        Posted by Jim Barton on Saturday, August 30, 2003 11:51 PM
                        Both Erock68 and therriman have great ideas on roll bar padding. I want to put a NASCAR style roll cage in my tornado chase vehicle (you'd want the protection when chasing storms that can boast winds of well over 200 miles an hour in extreme cases), and I'll have to experiment when I get to that point.

                        "Whaddya mean 'Who's flying the plane?!' Nobody's flying the plane!"

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                        cnstrwkr
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                          March 2003
                        • From: USA
                        Posted by cnstrwkr on Sunday, August 31, 2003 7:53 AM
                        Careful when using friction or electrical tape. The cheaper tapes when exposed to a little heat (summer temperatures) will start to open up. They then become very tacky and make a mess.
                        Tommy difficult things take time...the impossible, a little longer!
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                        therriman
                        • Member since
                          January 2003
                        • From: Central MI
                        Posted by therriman on Sunday, August 31, 2003 11:16 AM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by Jim Barton

                        Both Erock68 and therriman have great ideas on roll bar padding.



                        I can't take ANY credit for this one. LoneWolf1Seven was the one who suggested using the insulation from electrical wire. Thank You by the way.
                        Tim H. "If your alone and you meet a Zero, run like hell. Your outnumbered" Capt Joe Foss, Guadalcanal 1942 Real Trucks have 18 wheels. Anything less is just a Toy! I am in shape. Hey, Round is a shape! Reality is a concept not yet proven.
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