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  • Member since
    June, 2014
  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Making " Hidden " Details .
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Monday, September 10, 2018 10:11 AM

Hi Ya'll ;

 Well , it's Finally a rainy monday here in New braunfels , Tx. Finally ! I thought I was going to have to re-sod my lawn . It's burned pretty good , maybe after this rain , I will see little shoots hmmm ?

 This is what I mean about the Hidden Details . How many of you have seen the beautiful Riverboats in photos and models that at one time plied America's Rivers ? The funny thing is Gene1 sent me some Riverboat plans and there are NO outside supports under the main decks .So , No bracing seeme to be correct .

 There are Pictures of the Wolverine ( Great lakes Training Carrier ), That show them as being very obvious . As a matter of fact they are quite clear . I saw a model of the Natchez by someone in Missouri . Full deck supports above the main deck , and the framing for the overhang areas in the overheads  too .

 Now on the American Side Wheelers . there is a small looking Cabin like structure right above the Paddle housing and slightly forward . On the Pyro , Lifelike , Lindberg version there are some Wibblies that may represent vents or windows .

 I am not sure , But based on a photo of one from Sacramento they were vents . Then they should look like vents , Right ? Either vertical or Horizontal will do . Most build the Robert E. Lee or Natchez with what's there .That's alright too .The instructions Never say what they are .

 Now here's a point .Those of you wanting any boat but those two can have them easily . The names are raised letters on a plastic panel . Shave them off and then either create letters in three dimension or use Decals . Either of these two is permissable .

 Point of Note . I  believe something may have happened to the mold section that spelled out Natchez . I haven't seen it except on much older kits . That's alright though , except the name panel and other things that you cannot see well , both boats could be sisters to the eye . Just different colors is all .

 For the Sternwheel connessiour ( Gee , Did I spell that right ? Probably not ) . There are good Photos available in a book called "Dawdling The Delta " . By one of the locals and it documents quite a few . There are two editions pf the book .The first leans more toward a history and the second a verbal and photographic up and down the San Joaquin/Sacramento River delta and it's unusual denizens of the Human variety 

 I was once one of those and still miss the Delta Opening day Boat Parade , Bethel Island Bash and Fourth of July anchored off the point of land owned by Baron Hilton and watching fireworks and partying like there was no tomorrow .

 Yes , there were folks who partied so hard they fell in the river . Sure  ,we rescued them and lifted another to their safety !

 Oh , the History ."Blood Alley" with John Wayne was filmed there and some of those wrecks and abandoned boats were still there when I moved there in my boat ! They are gone now , but what a past ! 

 Anyway , where was I ? Oh , underdeck details , not normally seen . This is not something necessary unless it detracts from a model from an engineering or appearance standpoint . A model looks strange if it is large enough to see these things and they are not there .

 I did a conversion of Monogram's old R.A.G. Boat Kit . I converted it by adding a full forward cabin and main cabin with helm . The main cabin interior was completely visible to the observer as well as the roof and support structure of the aft deck cover .

 There were also former tank round boxes gathered up as postal sorting boxes .

 The front windows lifted into an open position and the side windows slid aft in their own rails .The spotlight and radar both swiveled , ( with the aid of a long pair of tweezers grasping the internal handles .) The cabin door slid back in forth in it's own set of rails and the rudder turned with a push of the small spoked wheel .

 Why ? Because they could be seen and I wanted to win the class at a local I.P.M.S. Show . Our esteemed President had a little better income at the time , could afford those Expensive ( To others anyway ) Tamiya race car kits in 1/20, and was always taking best of show , best of class and Peoples choice .

 The rest of us couldn't see paying that much out of our limited budgets for those kits .So we detailed the Bazoom out of what we had . The results ? My " Mail Boat " conversion and the Edgewater Princess II took the Gold and  one , two and three in vessels of history and practicality . 

 But not because of any personal tiffs . We all admired our President's skills in building Flawless out of the box models . We just decided he needed to have his Ego bent a little .After that , Greeblies started appearing in Planes and Armor too .

 He still won in Autos , But detail oriented building Suffused our club in ALL categories . That included Figures and Dios too ! Best thing that ever happened . Now we met in clinics on how to do this or that detail .The Planes got awesome and so did Ships and Armor !

 So you see , when you add an extra detail , Even if it cannot be seen ( as in Many Monogram Kits of famous planes ) .You , the Builder know it's there . And you feel vindicated as to your skills . Add that detail , It will only make you a better modeler and if possible , make the detail parts yourself , just once .

 Then enjoy what the market has to offer . Knowing that if it ain't for sale , you can still have that detail on your model , or in it too , because You Made those " Hidden " details ! ! .   Tanker - builder

 

 

  • Member since
    November, 2009
  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Tuesday, September 11, 2018 8:35 AM

I find when I start building a model, I get interested in the subject and hunt for info. I order books just to learn more in general about the subject.  I have colllected a number of books about midwestern and western riverboats.  Sometimes I do find text or photos there that explain some factors that help in building a model, even if that was not my intent in ordering the book.

That is even more true of Great Lakes vessels.  I grew up in Detroit, and enjoyed viewing the big ore boats (as they are popularly called) going up and down the river.  I have lots of books now on them- their history, their engineering, etc.

It is great in these days of the internet aiding those of us who are willing to buy used books.  If used copies of a book I want are available (and seldom are they not), I can usually get it pretty cheap.

BTW, Tanker-builder, I do intend to build the Wolverine.  I believe I have enough drawings now. As soon as I perfect the skills with my Cricut (vinyl cutter) to cut those supports, I will have at it.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

  • Member since
    June, 2014
  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Wednesday, September 12, 2018 7:49 AM

Don ;

 I saw one very good photo of the Wolverine at a Museum in Austin . The photographer wasn't named , but it was an exhibit of rare photos of the Yankee training Fleet of W.W. - 2 in the Great Lakes .

 Remember , I lived in Buffalo a number of my young years and saw and touched those  ( as my grandpa used to say ) Damned Big Boats !

 I am Building the Edmund Fitzgerald . she's a W.I.P. In paper .

  • Member since
    November, 2009
  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Sunday, September 16, 2018 11:07 AM

Tanker - Builder

Don ;

 I saw one very good photo of the Wolverine at a Museum in Austin . The photographer wasn't named , but it was an exhibit of rare photos of the Yankee training Fleet of W.W. - 2 in the Great Lakes .

 Remember , I lived in Buffalo a number of my young years and saw and touched those  ( as my grandpa used to say ) Damned Big Boats !

 I am Building the Edmund Fitzgerald . she's a W.I.P. In paper .

 

Is that a kit?  I know there is a paper model of the Fitz available.  Or are you scratching it?

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

  • Member since
    June, 2014
  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Monday, September 17, 2018 10:02 AM

Hi Don ;

 I am doing the "Fitz " in the paper model . This company has a whole list of " Lakers " available !

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