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OK Pie Cart 1/12th scale
Posted by Graham Green on Wednesday, August 21, 2019 3:51 PM

Here's a 1/12th scale model of an ‘OK Pie Cart’,  a couple of these carts were made and used in and around Toowoomba, a provincial city in Queensland, Australia.
I found a photo on the web and became intrigued with it because of it’s unusual design, I found a bit more about them from the Toowoomba Chronicle ( Toowoomba newspaper ) and even managed to track down a daughter of one of the drivers of these vehicles, a Mrs Gloria Ciesiolka, a daughter of a driver by the name of Mr Bill Stuart, she gave me quite a bit of information about the everyday operations of these horse drawn vehicles.

There were only two of these Pie Carts ever built, looks like whoever built them, has used the old front end’s from fancy carriage’s that had been tossed away. The wheels, axle and springs look suspiciously like they came from very fine carriages. The new fangled motor vehicle was starting to gain popularity about now, so the old horse drawn drawn stuff, was just getting tossed away as nobody wanted it anymore.
 These two carts were  used in and around Toowoomba, Qld, they were made roughly about the early to middle  1930’s, and used right thru to the late 1950’s.
 They made and baked the pies on the premises out the back in the shed, then loaded them onto these vehicles and sold them all around town. Think of the old pub closing times here in Australia of 6.00PM, or 1800hrs, the whole country was kind of into the dark ages about the effects of booze, then they would hang around for the pictures to shut, after that head for home, as nobody was out and about.

I had to make my own drawing for this cart before I could start to make the model. Had to get a bit of help from other more learned persons, as per dimensions of the vehicle, as I only had that one decent photo to work from, started to draw it on the computer and after quite a few adjustments later, it was ready.

Got stuck into it and this eventually appeared on my workbench.

Took the finished model out to Oakey, Qld to let Mrs Gloria Ciesiolka have a look at it, told her I would let her know when it was finished, because of the info she supplied me, I even took along that coloured photo as well. Showed her the coloured photo and she said, ——— ”where did you get that photo”, I replied ———  “off the web, why?”.
Could have knocked me down with her answer, ——— “it’s my brother Billy who got killed in the 2nd world war”.
Turns out not only Dad sold pies, her elder brother did for a short while as well.

So a little bit more history for the cupboard, eh -----------------------



Usual/normal construction methods were used, same as for the decals, paint job and anything else that I can't think of now.

First photo is what I found on the web,  then different photos of the model.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Friday, August 23, 2019 1:41 PM

Oh wow that looks so good!!! Beautiful representation of the real thing. 

 

Frankly you had me at the word pie... 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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    July, 2008
  • From: Co.Kerry, Ireland.
Posted by Est.1961 on Saturday, August 24, 2019 4:22 AM

Grand job and by the way laughed my way through your tales of the road the other day. 

Joe

Don't put off procrastinating until tomorrow. 

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    March, 2014
Posted by Graham Green on Saturday, August 24, 2019 5:12 AM

Est.1961

Grand job and by the way laughed my way through your tales of the road the other day. 

Joe

 

 

 

Thanks for the kudos, much appreciated.

Got plenty more of those tales, but don't think that they are appropriate on this forum, as it appears that a lot of persons on here just dont seem to have a sense of humour, eh.

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    March, 2014
Posted by Graham Green on Saturday, August 24, 2019 5:13 AM

Thanks Gamera, I tried to copy what was in the photo. Confused

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  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Sunday, August 25, 2019 7:25 AM

Hi Graham;

    I assume from that rig that when you got a pie they warmed it up for you? And I believe yer right. That sure looks like a lightweight Buggy rig for wheels and suspension.

     Our old Buggy,which we still used for Parades into the fifties was a four place landau.We got it used from the Local Undertaker when he bought a Motorcar Hearse and Family car.

      We kept it till the barn Burned in 1956. The prevailing winds caused the loss of two barns and  the house on Christmas morning . Tis Life! City living after that. I used to be the one to rig it out for rides because the Percheron Team had been my 4-H project! All of Thirteen years old!

   Oh, By the way, again, A gorgeous job my friend. Kevin and I will raise a Pint fer ye! Kevin is from Your fine land. I will ask him just where. He's been here awhile but he knocks the ladies dead with that Mellow Aussie Accent !

    I do have one question.Wher do you get your information? I would like to build an English Post Coach from about the time Patrick O'Brian wrote about. From the Master and Commander series. You know, There has been an H.M.S.Surprise R.C. Model Built and she sails very well. 

     Again ,Thanks for pics of your beautiful Work! Tanker-Builder

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    March, 2014
Posted by Graham Green on Sunday, August 25, 2019 6:23 PM

Yes, they placed the pies into the oven and when required, just opened the oven door for a piping hot pie, the oven door was on top and the small door below is for loading the wood onto the fire.

The pies were baked at the owners premises, then loaded into the oven on the cart which kept the pies as hot as, so long as the fire in the firebox was alight.

 

 

 

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    March, 2014
Posted by Graham Green on Sunday, August 25, 2019 6:31 PM

Tanker - Builder

Hi Graham;

   

 

    I do have one question.Wher do you get your information? I would like to build an English Post Coach from about the time Patrick O'Brian wrote about. From the Master and Commander series.

     Again ,Thanks for pics of your beautiful Work! Tanker-Builder

 

 

Have a look thru this site, scroll down to drawing number JTV3athey have quite a few drawings from different persons and will post worldwide -----

 

 

https://www.wildhorsebooks.com/thompson.htm

 

https://www.wildhorsebooks.com/Plans.htm

 

https://www.wildhorsebooks.com/index.htm

 

 

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