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  • Member since
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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Stinson Trimotor
Posted by Don Stauffer on Sunday, September 30, 2018 6:31 AM

Yesterday at Nordiccon I picked up a gem, a Stinson Trimotor by Ideal Toy Company.  I was wondering how old this kit is!  There is no copyright on the instructions, and no dates on the box.  I remember making some wooden kits by Ideal, but never a plastic kit.  I am assuming this is pretty old.  Any way to find out how old this kit is?

I have long loved that plane.  There is a museum here that has one, in early American Airlines markings.  I had already started a scratch model of the plane, but will trash that one now that I have a nice kit to build.  The previous owner had started the kit, but only to glue the top and bottom wing pieces together and he did an okay job on that.  There were also three aftermarket engines in the box.

The kit is box scale, 1:66.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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    June, 2017
  • From: Winter Park, FL
Posted by fotofrank on Sunday, September 30, 2018 7:17 AM

Don, is your kit a high-wing or a low-wing? I've seen both one time or another at Sun n Fun at Lakeland-Linder Airport over the years. Those old airliners are such beauties. It's a joy to see them fly.

BTW: Not my pictures. Internet grabs.

OK. On the bench:

Way too much to build in one lifetime...

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    March, 2003
  • From: Towson MD
Posted by gregbale on Sunday, September 30, 2018 8:06 AM

Excellent score!

Ideal's plastic models were better-known under the imprint ITC, and were a quite extraordinary range of kits---including rarely-seen civil a/c which unfortunately haven't been re-released over the years as some of their more 'manstream' offerings have been.

I happened to be looking at one on an auction site the other day, so the links are still fresh; here is the Scalemates page, that shows it apparently dates from 1957. This is another interesting page I found, which includes some background and photos of a gentleman's very-nicely-built version of the kit.

Should be a great project!

Greg

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    May, 2009
  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Sunday, September 30, 2018 1:52 PM

Hello Don!

Our good old scalemates states this kit's original date as 1957!

The link here:

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/938091-itc-model-craft-3722-tri-motor-stinson

Good luck with your build and have a nice day!

Paweł

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    September, 2018
Posted by Challenger350Pilot on Sunday, September 30, 2018 3:40 PM

WOW! An amazing treasure! Looking forward to seeing this one built!

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    November, 2009
  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Monday, October 01, 2018 8:37 AM

Thanks, guys.  Greg, the two photos are planes both in the museum up here that I mentioned.  The high wing is the Stinson T, the one of the kit.  The low wing one is the Model A. I would love to build that too- maybe a scratch project, unless anyone knows of a kit for that.

And yes, Pawel,  that box is the kit I just got.  1957, huh!  That is about the era I was assuming.

Looking forward to building it!

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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  • From: Central Ohio
Posted by Ashley on Tuesday, October 02, 2018 8:23 AM

Ah, Greg Herrick's trimotors! He has had a few Fords in his collection, not sure, but I think he still has 4AT#10, the oldest Ford still around. It has the rear sloped windshield of the very early 4ATs, and the one modeled in Revell's 1/77nd release from the last century!

Can't wait to see the Stinson build! Now, if only I could find a larger scale Boeing....

Have you flown a Ford lately?

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    November, 2009
  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Tuesday, October 02, 2018 8:53 AM

Ashley

Ah, Greg Herrick's trimotors! He has had a few Fords in his collection, not sure, but I think he still has 4AT#10, the oldest Ford still around. It has the rear sloped windshield of the very early 4ATs, and the one modeled in Revell's 1/77nd release from the last century!

Can't wait to see the Stinson build! Now, if only I could find a larger scale Boeing....

 

I missed the Blaine Aviation Days this year, but last year he still had the Ford.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Tuesday, October 02, 2018 10:29 AM

Don ; 

 With nothing else to do but heal , I got into my stash . By Gawd , If'n it ain't fate , I got that same plane ! Box still sealed ! Like you , I always had a soft spot for planes that occassionally flew over when we were wee tads .  T.B.

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  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Tuesday, October 02, 2018 10:32 AM

Hi ;

    Aircraft Modelers , Listen up !! I see in these photos a slow  ,patient , Kit Bash . Engineering wise it is not simple . But in Model form ya'll don't need to worry the Nuts , Bolts and Rivets .

    Based on the photos , I see a lot of original Kit parts being used ! T.B.

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  • From: Central Ohio
Posted by Ashley on Tuesday, October 02, 2018 4:42 PM

Tanker - Builder

Hi ;

    Aircraft Modelers , Listen up !! I see in these photos a slow  ,patient , Kit Bash . Engineering wise it is not simple . But in Model form ya'll don't need to worry the Nuts , Bolts and Rivets .

    Based on the photos , I see a lot of original Kit parts being used ! T.B.

 

Is somebody suggesting we lower the wings on a certain Trimotor? Of course, when I say we, Stauffer is going to do all the work, all we have to do is prod him electronically to keep him on task, and gleefully await the results!

Have you flown a Ford lately?

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    November, 2009
  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Saturday, October 06, 2018 6:45 AM

Got a start on the Stinson yesterday, now that my B-47 is in the painting phase (slow drying enamel).  I had started painting the passengers provided.  I also glued in the windows.  Turns out they are so distorted you can't make out much of the interior, so I won't spend too much time on the interior.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Monday, October 08, 2018 2:19 PM

Here is a shot of it this morning.  All ready to close up the fuselage.  Don't know why I spent such care on passengers and crew.  The windows are so bad the figures are just a blob.  But I know it is there, right :-)

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Thursday, October 11, 2018 7:32 AM

Well ; Gee Whiz , Don !

     I think you should consider this . Next time Find some Crystal clear plastic from , say a small Cabinet drawer . Use the plastic from that . Probably the same thickness but , clear and visibility is excellent ! 

 I buy stuff like that at garage sales .The case might be cracked but the drawers are useable for other stuff . Oh , By the way it's looking great !

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    May, 2009
  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Thursday, October 11, 2018 7:40 AM

Yeah, Don - I think you could easily swap the kit windows for something beter, made by yourself. Or alternatively I have some practice with the "old-Airfix" windows that had a nice sinkmark each, right in the middle of them. Those still could be sanded flat, polished and coated with future - and after that you could see through them all right. So there's still hope! Good luck with your build and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

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    September, 2017
  • From: western North Carolina
Posted by kensar on Thursday, October 11, 2018 7:42 AM

Yet another idea is to make the windows with Micro Krystal Clear, if they're small enough.  That's what I did with the windows on my 1/144 Boeing 314 Clipper.

 

Kensar

 

  • Member since
    November, 2009
  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Thursday, October 11, 2018 9:26 AM

kensar

Yet another idea is to make the windows with Micro Krystal Clear, if they're small enough.  That's what I did with the windows on my 1/144 Boeing 314 Clipper.

 

 

The side windows are pretty large- I was afraid they wouldn't form very well.  In some spots the windows didn't fit the opening, leaving a hollow.  I am going to try Krystal Clear there.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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  • From: Bethlehem PA
Posted by the Baron on Thursday, October 11, 2018 1:03 PM

I save the clear plastic package stiffeners from my shirts, for things like this.  They consist of a long strip, usually about 10"x1.5", that is stuck around the inside of the neck or collar, and a little butterfly piece that goes under the front of the collar.  It's good plastic.  I've used it for smash-molding windscreens, as well as cutting it for window panes.

The clear plastic packaging used for food can work, too.  You just have to look for the clearer pieces.

The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.

 

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  • From: Bethlehem PA
Posted by the Baron on Thursday, October 11, 2018 1:06 PM

And this is a sweet build, too, by the way!

The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/HansvonHammer/Humor/th_MonogramMafia.jpg?t=1296972087~original

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  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Thursday, October 11, 2018 2:11 PM

Baron - I used to take that plastic, too, but then I've found out the hard way some of them have a bad tendency to yellow with time, so now I only use them for secondary things. Some time ago I have bought some Vivak - that is good stuff, very clear, resistant against cracking and also vacuforms very well, so I recommend it, if you can get some, of course.

Hope it helps, have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

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    September, 2012
Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, October 11, 2018 3:45 PM

Have those little butterflies all over the closet floor.

Thanks for the tip.

I use the flat middle of lids from salad bar boxes.

was an old school technique to put some kind of temporary backing with a release agent behind(actually in front of) opening and fill with clear epoxy. Never tried it.

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    December, 2002
  • From: Northern California
Posted by jeaton01 on Thursday, October 11, 2018 7:57 PM

I used clear epoxy on a 1/100 727, it was viscous enough for those small windows to just pour from the backside and sand flush on the outside after curing.  The best clear plastic I have found is old CD cases.  It is thick enough to glue in with it protruding to the outside and then sand and polish to contour.  Best to make the windows a little larger and mask to the proper size.

John

To see build logs of my models, go here: http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.htm

  

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