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Colt's Shootin' Irons
Posted by Mike F6F on Sunday, August 9, 2015 1:04 PM

Growing up with westerns on TV and the movies, I've always had a fondness for Colt revolvers.

I bought these two kits from Alan at oldmodelkits.com and thought it would make an interesting challenge to attempt to reproduce gun metal finishes on two full scale kits. Both Revell kits were manufactured in the 80s from molds created in the 50s. 

The first is a "Western .44" patterned after a Colt 1860 Army cap and ball revolver.

The plastic was thick and had a good amount of flash.  Assembly problems weren't an issue, the kit was very simple, but seams, etc., were tougher than today's modeler would normally encounter. The kit's molded surface was rough and simulated rust pitting that one would find on an older revolver.

Using a few reference photos from an antique gun seller, I jumped in.

The kit was inaccurate regarding the shape of the trigger guard, and called for areas of the frame to be painted counter to the actual revolver.  Some screws were not molded into the model as they should have been.

Here's the finished model.

Since the model was pitted, etc., I attempted to show the revolver with faded bluing and case colors.

I used Acryl Gunmetal and faded it with drybrushing using the reference photos as a guide.  I mixed some of the gunmetal paint with light gray and silver to simulate worn surfaces.  

I cut the rear site grove into the hammer and added actual screws or made up some screws from sheet stock.  

The brass trigger guard was actually a larger piece than the model represented, so it was painted accordingly.  Some weathering and tarnish was added.  i tried to round off its too square corners.

Frames and hammers on 19th century Colt revolvers were case hardened for added strength.  The parts were heated, then quenched to harden the surface but not to make the frames brittle.  The cap and ball revolvers also had case hardened rammers.  The process created unique color patterns that were quite attractive, but that faded with time.

I attempted this by using a combination of a mixture of gray and steel Acryl paints for the base color and then used washes of colors to represent the case hardened patterns.

Since the cylinder was thick enough, I super-glued some .44 caliber round balls and made some "percussion caps" from stock tube to simulate a loaded firearm.  I added the safety pins to the cylinder and the model shows the hammer resting on the pin so the gun wouldn't fire if dropped.  I mixed gunmetal with rust and dry brushed the grip frame to show some more " age."  The kit was molded with some pretty heavy cracks in the "wooden" grips.  I filled most of those.

The second kit is the .45 Peacemaker.  I built this kit originally in the 70s.

Like the first kit, the flash and seams were heavy, but since this kit represents a fancy engraved revolver, I wanted to show it in a more pristine condition than the first model.

Again using  reference photos of pristine revolvers, I went to work.

The model:

I had to polish the plastic quite a bit to simulate the look.

The "gun bluing" is a mixture of Acryl Insignia Blue and Aircraft Interior Black airbrushed over a flat black undercoat.  The frame and hammer were painted with a base coat of Acryl Brass, Steel and Sand to produce the unfaded "straw" color.  Again washes were applied for the browns and blues, etc., representing the way an unfaded frame would look.

The molded engraving made some seam removal impossible, so I had to live with it on the top of the frame and barrel.

The grips were molded in white, but were painted with Tamiya Pearl Off-White trying to simulate non-aged ivory.  The bluing was gloss coated and the case colors were given a semi-gloss coat to vary the finishes somewhat.

I wanted to simulate a "loaded" Peacemaker as the first model was done.  The cylinder was of a much thinner plastic and wouldn't support even the aluminum "dummy" cartridges I wanted to mount within.

Both were fun projects and I believe I recreated a passable representation of metal objects using just standard acrylic paints.

I'd been wanting to try this project for a long time, but had to wait until copies of the old kits became available.  The finished full scale models have fooled a couple of friends into thinking they were "real."

That added a little extra fun.

Mike

 

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Sunday, August 9, 2015 1:21 PM

Really nice work on those model kits ! Big SmileYes

A shame they're no longer available.

Nowadays someone who wants something to remind 'em of their favorite westerns in print or film would be forced to buy a real gun.

Yesterday, I happened across a book at Half Price books on clearance titled:

"Famous Firearms of the old West " by Hal Herring

http://www.halherring.com/books.html

The book is turning out to be a very intresting read.

 

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Posted by mississippivol on Sunday, August 9, 2015 4:26 PM
Convincing work. Looks good.
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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Sunday, August 9, 2015 11:32 PM

I have the Life Like version of that Colt 45 and am well aware of how thin the cylinder plastic parts are. The Revell Colt 44 percussion requires, IIRC, extra care due to the ill fitting barrel halves.

What glue and filler brands did you use?

BTW...really nice painting.

I especially like the finish on the Colt 45 Peacemaker.

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Posted by Mike F6F on Monday, August 10, 2015 10:08 AM

Sprue-ce and Mississippi,

Thanks for your kind comments.

I didn't have any trouble with the .44 barrel.  I just used liquid cement and gap filling superglue, nothing special.

It may have been the Life Like kit I built in the 70s.  I believe the engraving was different, more to simulate an inlay.  IIRC the instructions called for flowing silver paint into the "inlay" but my memory could be fogged.

The photos don't show it well, but with the right comparison you can see the blue in among the black on the Peacemaker.  Just using black wouldn't look right and although I like the finish of the Acryl Gunmetal, it just wasn't dark enough to look like mint blueing.  I started to feel like a gunsmith as I continued to polish the model smooth as though it were steel and not plastic.

Mike

 

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, August 10, 2015 11:50 AM

I'd swear they were the real thing if you hadn't told me otherwise and I can't think of a better compliment than that!!! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by bitbite on Monday, August 10, 2015 6:29 PM
Having owned both of these Colt revolvers in "real life," and many other Colts, I have to say that you've done an awesome job on these. Bravo, sir!!! VERY nice! :)

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Posted by Greg on Monday, August 10, 2015 8:12 PM

I too think you have done a spendid job on these replicas. Yes

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Posted by Mike F6F on Tuesday, August 11, 2015 10:33 AM

Thanks everyone for your kind comments.

From those who know Colt single actions, the comments are very welcome.  As a Colt revolver owner myself, I knew I couldn't fool those that were very familar with the revolvers.

Since modelers rarely if ever deal in 1:1 scale, it was refreshing not to worry about scale effect, etc.

Thanks again.

Mike

 

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Tuesday, August 11, 2015 10:56 AM

One Chicago area resident doesn't even bother building plastic model kits.

Every year the Chicago MMSI show has a different full size pistol entered in the contest.

( prominently marked as -> carved from wood <- ) 

I do not recall if the carved models garnered any prizes.

A shame so few of those Colt SA model kits still exist.

Might be fun to convert one to a Buntline version to display next to a standard version.

buntline

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Posted by Mike F6F on Tuesday, August 11, 2015 1:14 PM

Another rare, but interesting set of replica Colt pistols are the rubber and aluminium Peacemakers, etc., made by the movie studio prop people.

They were made for actors in roles that required them to be "armed" but the role didn't require the actor to fire blanks from a revolver.

I've seen a few for sale.  Some are very crude, but if used by the right actor or in the right film, they can be expensive.

Mike

 

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Tuesday, August 11, 2015 3:22 PM
The finish you achieved on these is astonishing for realism. This is exceptional work! Nice job!

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Poilu on Tuesday, August 11, 2015 3:52 PM

Well done Mike! 

All the best,

Dan

 

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Tuesday, August 18, 2015 9:58 AM

I thought you might be interested in seeing kits made by LS in Japan.

Regretably, I missed out on buying most of them at the time they were imported into the USA and currently possess only one remaining example in my collection.

http://model-kit-ls-scale-1-1.blogspot.com

http://ncc1701d.bufsiz.jp/LS/LStop.html

and

I now see that LS made a Buntline version:

http://ncc1701d.bufsiz.jp/LS/09/09.html

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Posted by Mike F6F on Thursday, August 20, 2015 11:18 AM

I remember them.

A friend had a couple of the P38s with the silencer.  We used them in a film we made.

Mike

 

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Thursday, August 20, 2015 11:21 AM

I had one of those P-38 w/ silencer kits as well.

Unfortunately, when it broke I sent it to a land fill.

I thought I kept the silencer part of the kit but haven't been able to find it.

Had I known it would be impossible to find another in a store, I would have kept it and found a way to fix it.

 

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, August 23, 2015 10:08 PM
I got to build quite a lot of the LS inventory. The "Broomhandle" Mauser is very impressive, with nearly every part represented within. The M 1911A1 was not nearly so detailed/ The Colt Python was hugely detailed, but a flimsy feel. The M-16, the XM-177 have similar issues, being just a bit floppy/ Th Ak-47 was robust. The grenades were all fascinating--almost too much so.
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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Sunday, August 23, 2015 10:15 PM

I recall seeing the unpainted but assembled M-16 at a local IPMS meeting during the mid-1980s.....unfortunately the sink marks filled in by Squadron Green Stuff took away from the overall impression.

I am sorry I never owned the C-96 Mauser but that may be just as well.

I most likely would have converted it after seeing the movie Star Wars in the theater Whistling

 

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Posted by Buckeye on Tuesday, August 25, 2015 11:37 AM

Nice work there!

Mike

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Saturday, August 29, 2015 9:55 PM

Just found this website selling scrolling transfers ( rub on decals ? ) for engravers- should you ever have a spare kit and an urge to decorate it..............

 

http://www.engravingtransfers.com/auxiliary_saa_designs_instruction_manual.html

 

http://www.engravingtransfers.com/mike_dubbers_instructions.html

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Sunday, August 30, 2015 11:20 AM

In case anyone needs reference photos of Colt's shootin' irons:

http://www.gun-photos.info

...or any other brand of shootin' irons..........

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Monday, September 7, 2015 10:34 PM

Sprue-ce Goose
I most likely would have converted it after seeing the movie Star Wars in the theate

Shoot, I kick myself now that I was not smart enough to use the technology of a dacade after to RTV all the parts I had before assembly.  Would have been blasters, ray guns, frankengonne, steam punkt weapons of all sorts still being made.

That, and cast resin copies would have been heavier and more rigid than the AABS.

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Monday, September 7, 2015 10:45 PM

CapnMac82

 

 
Sprue-ce Goose
I most likely would have converted it after seeing the movie Star Wars in the theate

 

Shoot, I kick myself now that I was not smart enough to use the technology of a dacade after to RTV all the parts I had before assembly.  Would have been blasters, ray guns, frankengonne, steam punkt weapons of all sorts still being made.

That, and cast resin copies would have been heavier and more rigid than the AABS.

 

I have an LS Artillery Luger waiting for me to do that very same thing.
Might be nice to scratch build a snail drum while I'm at it.Hmm
 
Wonder if Disney would be willing to arm Luke Skywalker with a Luger...........? Whistling
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Posted by Fastferry2000 on Thursday, September 10, 2015 3:25 PM

Sometimes appears interestings items to buy on this website, you may buy at auctions in Japan. Keep in mind that you have to pay import taxes, at least in my case, being from Spain, but still cheaper than what is currently on Ebay:

http://buyee.jp/item/yahoo/auction/v430527060

 

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