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Atlantis Blackbeard Pirate Figure (basic advice?)

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  • From: Marysville, WA
Atlantis Blackbeard Pirate Figure (basic advice?)
Posted by David_K on Monday, September 11, 2017 7:29 PM

Hi All-

I'm iind of a newb to figures, I've built a few back in the day (these days I mostly build sailing ship models)...

But I recently bought an Atlantis Blackbeard Pirate figure and I had a couple of questions about basic painting/assembly.  Any advice would be appreciated so I can get off on the right foot.

How do most people go about building plastic model figure kits?  Airbrush, brushes?

Partial assembly before painting, or complete assembly first?

I wonder if anyone here has built the kit?  I typed it in the *search forums* bar and got zero matches.

I'm likely to turn this into a WIP once I get started.

Anyway, thanks!

Dave

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, September 12, 2017 7:38 AM

Personally I'd assemble the entire figure, prime him, and then paint. The few I've done I've used an airbrush for the big areas like the his coat etc and then brush in paint details.

Highlander242 has posted some how-tos here on the figure forum and in the magazine. You might check YouTube as well. There's loads of useful videos there, I entered 'painting 1/6th figures' and got a boatload of stuff.  

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Posted by David_K on Tuesday, September 12, 2017 4:52 PM

Thanks, Gamera!

I'll take a closer look among the forum, and also check out some youtube videos!

 

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Posted by the Baron on Wednesday, September 13, 2017 1:29 PM

I've never heard of this kit-is it a styrene kit?  What scale is it?

To add to Gamera's tips-assemble the kit, taking care to clean up seams and any flaws.

If it's a styrene kit, there are likely to be seams where parts join together.  You can putty seams, but if it's a styrene kit, I like to use liquid styrene cement for assembly, and when I attach two parts, I'll apply pressure to force a bead of melted styrene to rise along the seam.  When the parts cure, I can scrape this bead away with a hobby knife, and it reduces or eliminates the seam.  I'll also use stretched sprue, in this case, and liquid cement.  Lay the sprue into the seam and run the liquid glue over it.  Again, you get a welded fill to the seam, and I like this, it's all the same material.

For putty, I use Squadron white thinned with acetone.  I will apply putty to the seams, then run a cotton swab soaked in acetone across the seam to remove the excess.  Or I will dissolve putty in some acetone in a glass jar, and then apply this to the seam with an old brush.  I call that my homemade Mr Surfacer.  You can use Mr Surfacer, too, a liquid filler that comes in three thicknesses, but it's usually not thick enough for my liking.

Besides seams where parts join, you'll want to remove any mold seams, seams that show where the two halves of the mold met.  There is usually a little bit of a line around the part, where the mold halves met.  You can clean these up by scraping with a knife, and with fine sandpaper.  I also like to use a Flex-i-file for this work, because it lets me get the abrasive right where I want it.  For example, I find it much better for seams on the legs of figures in larger scales, than if I used a piece of sandpaper to sand it free-hand.  It's more consistent.

If it's a resin kit, you'll have seams, and you may also have bubble holes or other molding flaws to correct.  Use the putty and surfacers for these as necessary, and sand them as necessary.

At this point, prime the figure.  Priming doesn't just provide "tooth" for your finish coats of paint, but it can show any other flaws that you didn't see the first time.  It's not unusual to cycle through this process more than once, before you get to applying your finish coats.

Hope that helps!

Best regards,

Brad

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  • From: Marysville, WA
Posted by David_K on Wednesday, September 13, 2017 4:37 PM

Very good advice, thanks!

Yes, it's a styrene kit, 1/10 scale...

Here's a link to it.

https://www.amazon.com/Blackbeard-Pirate-Figure-Model-Atlantis/dp/B009LM669W

I'll probably start some preliminary assembly and seam *fixing* very soon.

Dave

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, September 13, 2017 7:02 PM

Brad: Lol, I'm so used to puttying and sanding seams by now I didn't even think about that most important part! Thanks for covering for me there.

Dave: Very cool figure. I don't live that far from Blackbeard's old stomping grounds in the Carolina's and am hopefully headed out that way on vacation in two months. Thanks for the link, I might have to pick up one for myself!

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Posted by David_K on Wednesday, September 13, 2017 7:09 PM

im hoping I can do a good job with it.  It is a neat kit.

Back in the day, Aurora made a Captain Kidd figure kit, sort of a companion to the Blackbeard...but it's only available on the secondary market (like eBay) and it's super expensive....

Anyway, thanks again for all your advice, I got some putty today...it just got real!

Dave

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  • From: Bethlehem PA
Posted by the Baron on Friday, September 15, 2017 1:03 PM

Ah, OK, thanks for the link!  Yeah, it's what I pictured, a re-release (and rework?) of Aurora's Blackbeard.  Yes, there will probably be some seamage to deal with, but you can turn it into a very nice figure.

Heh, Gamera, no sweat!  I read your post and thought I could help with some detail Wink

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Posted by the Baron on Friday, September 15, 2017 1:04 PM

Also, with a kit in this scale, of this size, you can probably use the airbrush to lay down your base colors, and maybe even to do some shading.

I look forward to seeing a build blog!

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