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Waffenfarbe question
Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, February 7, 2015 11:03 PM

The crews of WWII German armored cars in recon units, did they use the yellow/cavalry waffenfarbe piping, or the pink piping of panzer crews? Particularly in North Africa for a SdKfz 231/232.

 

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, February 8, 2015 1:43 AM

Motorised Recon units used a copper brown colour.

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, February 8, 2015 11:46 AM

Ahhhh, there's a new one for me. Many thanks Bish.

 

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, February 8, 2015 12:44 PM

My pleasure. The list of colours is a bit longer than I think many realise. According to my main reference, there are 17 colours.

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, February 8, 2015 1:37 PM

Well, there is more to an army than the combat arms. All the support elements have their own piping colors... And of course you have sub branch colors.

 

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, February 8, 2015 3:28 PM

Yep, and the Germans never liked to make things easy.

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, February 8, 2015 4:16 PM

Yeah just look at their multi syllable descriptive words. Everything with precision. Panzerkampwagen. Sonderkraftfahrzeug. ;) good thing that I took all those years of German.

 

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Saturday, February 21, 2015 4:23 PM

To be fair, the US Army has abut as many Branch colors.

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, February 21, 2015 4:26 PM

stikpusher

Yeah just look at their multi syllable descriptive words. Everything with precision. Panzerkampwagen. Sonderkraftfahrzeug. ;) good thing that I took all those years of German.

Ye, gets a bit baffling at times doesn't. It wasn't until I was in my battalions Anti Tank Platoon and we had to do AFV recognition that I realised every nation has a system and the German one started to make more sense to me.

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Posted by jgeratic on Sunday, February 22, 2015 12:16 PM

Yes, copper brown is the safe choice for the period in question, though research seems to have uncovered some exceptions - not surprising!

Compared to my own book sources, I find some conflicting dates from a fairly detailed response found here, but you get the idea:

http://www.network54.com/Forum/47212/thread/1342038452/from+one+expert+to+another+about+German+Piping+%28branch%29+color

I will end with this publication:

Inside there is an example of a recon EM tunic shoulder strap with golden yellow.  It is described as rarely seen, and from very early in the campaign.

regards,

Jack

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