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Cheyenne Warrior
Posted by ghamilt1 on Saturday, August 28, 2004 9:16 PM
As promised, this is a commisioned piece that I wanted to share before I have to turn it over to the client. This Cheyenne warrior is from Harton miniature's 90mm range. I really like the pose of this figure, as it reminded me of some of the statues Frederick Remington used to sculpt. It's a resin figure with white metal details (like each individual feather!). I went for darker flesh tones on this fellow, as I wanted to portray him as someone who is weather beaten and in the sun a lot. The pony was a nice change of pace from the horses favoured by European calvary. He's also different from my other works in that this was the first time I was Vallejo acrylics as the undercoat. I really like these paints, but I'm too set in my ways to abandon the oils completely. This will be all from me for a while, but this same client has asked me to build Andrea Miniature's "Chuckwagon" which was just released in August. I'll be sure to post it when I'm done.

Last thing guys, I don't know what I'm doing wrong, but these pics won't enlarge either. Sorry in advance if this gets in the way of your being able to get a good look.
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  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by ajlafleche on Saturday, August 28, 2004 10:31 PM
I really like this piece. I wasn't sure about the feathers on the shield at first but they're fine.
When I did my EMI Kit Fox Society Sioux last summer, I added a bit more decoration to the horse. Illstrations I've seen of Sioux war pomies tend to have more medicine markings, but your pony looks great.
To see a larger representation of the picture, right click on it, choose "properties" from the box, copy the URL address and place it in your address box and hit "go".

Remember, if the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy.

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Posted by ghamilt1 on Sunday, August 29, 2004 12:07 AM
Thanks ajlafleche.

You make an excellent point. I have a few more medicine marks on the other side of the pony, but I didn't want to over do it. The box illustration looked over done to me, so I went for a few less markings, perhaps at the expense of accuracy. The warrior himself was so beautifully sculpted, especially in the face, that I just couldn't bring myself to cover it up with more paint. Again, is it accurate? Well, probably not, but I was hoping all the feathers might make up for it.

Have you ever seen PiliPili's line of Native Americans? They are really something, and if you like this kind of subject, it would be well worth your while to check them out. I picked one up from "The Red Lancers" figure shop/site at www.redlancers.com
Cheers.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 29, 2004 4:01 AM
Looks great! It really does remind me of a Remington (my mother has several bronze sculpts and some prints).
The Sioux, Blackfoot and Apache used a lot of "markings" on their horses that indicated tribe and owner + war paint and medicine marks. The Chyanne and Ute used medicine marks and not much else but the Nez-Perce (Nay-persay) used a lot of paint, probaly the most of any tribe.

BTW: I'm part Cherokee. Where can I get Indian figures?
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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Sunday, August 29, 2004 9:32 AM
Excellent painting Thumbs Up [tup]. BTW, any pic with vertical dimension greater than horizontal, won't enlarge on the FSM Forum. Don't know the technical reason, but it does make posting pics of figures a little difficult.

Regards, Rick
RICK At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...
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  • From: Western Canada
Posted by ghamilt1 on Sunday, August 29, 2004 12:54 PM
Claymore;

It all depends on the scale. Andrea Miniatures carries a great line of Indian figures in thier "Golden West" series. The manufacturer of the kit I posted, Harton Miniatures, has a wonderful collection of busts and figures in 90 mm. Finally, the company I mentioned before, PiliPili, has quite a few Indian figures in 120 mm that are real beauties! You can get these at a few online vendors like;

www.redlancers.com The Red Lancers in Utah,
www.milminwh.com Military miniature Warehouse in NY State, and try
www.michtoy.com Michigan Toy Company in, of course, Michigan.

Good Luck
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  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by ajlafleche on Sunday, August 29, 2004 7:13 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by claymore68

Looks great! It really does remind me of a Remington (my mother has several bronze sculpts and some prints).
The Sioux, Blackfoot and Apache used a lot of "markings" on their horses that indicated tribe and owner + war paint and medicine marks. The Chyanne and Ute used medicine marks and not much else but the Nez-Perce (Nay-persay) used a lot of paint, probaly the most of any tribe.

BTW: I'm part Cherokee. Where can I get Indian figures?


AS Ghamilot suggeseted, http://www.redlancers.com carries a large selection of native figures. Also, check out two more of my favoriute figure dealers, http://www.sentinelminiatures.com (all eras are featyured) and http://www.milminwh.com (Miiltary Miniatures Warehouse) who carries strictly American subjects from the French and Indian War period through the end of the 19th century.
All three of these guys are excellent dealers and I recommend any of them without the slightest reservation.

As to Cherokee figures, one of my club members is part Cherokee and we have been searching for specific Cherokee garbed figures for him for a couple years to no avail. However, during the French and Indian War era, some eastern CHerokee wore clothing very similar to that worn by the woodland tribes of the NOrtheast, according to Robert Griffing whose art is featured here: http://www.oldgloryprints.com/griffing.htm

Remember, if the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy.

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  • From: Western Canada
Posted by ghamilt1 on Sunday, August 29, 2004 7:48 PM
If you are satisfied that those pictures represents a Cherokee warrior(I know I am), then I think you'd love PiliPili's 120mm woodland Indian c.1750. Here's a few pictures of that figure I painted up a year or two ago. It comes with the forest base and is a pleasure to build and paint. Definately worth checking out. Again, see the dealers listed on this thread, as I can second the motion that these guys provide top notch service.
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  • From: South Australia
Posted by South Aussie on Sunday, August 29, 2004 9:32 PM
Excellent work ghamilt1, thanks for sharing.
Wayne I enjoy getting older, especially when I consider the alternative.
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