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Don't Bite off More than You can Chew!!

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  • Member since
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  • From: New Braunfels, Texas
Don't Bite off More than You can Chew!!
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Thursday, September 17, 2020 10:09 AM

Hi Card(Paper) Modelers all!

    Just a few points I would like to make here. When you handle "Paper( Card) models or just see them, you may say to yourself," Hey, Self" You can build that old paper thingy"! Not so fast! Yeah, they may be big or small models and all pretty looking on the sheets.

    I have an important question here. Can you read orthographic projection type drawings? Or even Perspective drawings? If you have difficulty here then "Back Up Soldier"! First off, How good are you with any type of Craft PAPER projects. Have you helped your Children ( If Any) do a paper craft projects for school?

     If you haven't, you are in for a surprise. Why do I say that? How well do you handle a ruler( Steel) Scissors(Major tool here) and Craft glue? Next, there's the shaping of the part. What! you have to shape the part? You bet your Sweet Bippy!! How good are you at cutting ON THE LINE! When you do paper models, the last thing you want is a bunch of lines everywhere!

   Believe it or not, I find an old or new( Your choice) Utility Knife blade and a Steel( Dull Finish) ruler In 6" and 12" length perfect for folding. Good scissors.( I use FISKARS ( all Sizes) To be perfect. Now as to scissors.You should get at least One or Two pairs of light curved blade types.You'll need them! You can make folds with tweezers if you have the kind that DON'T have the real fine points. Yup!. Even cardstock paper can cause the tips to twist while trying to fold or crease!

    So Think about it and stay tuned. Okay? Now there are many adhesives that Card Modelers use. Here in the U.S.of A. I use "Aleen's Craft Sticky Glue, I use a standard bamboo skewer to apply the glue and an old credit card to put the blob of working glue on. I have about twenty different tweezers for folding and shaping, Plus a good supply of Note Clips to hold stuff together.

     The main thing you need also are the most important here. A Cutting Mat( The self Healing type!)  A Very Good light or lights! Multiple types of X-Acto or Excell blades. Fine and Medium sanding Boards from your Local beauty supply store. Yes, If you cut outside the line You can, After stiffening the edge with super glue, Sand the surface of the Paper, correct!

    This is very important. On Planes you definitely want it correct. Ships are a little more forgiving, But not much. My recommendation is this and this is a generality. If you want to try Card Models, start with say, A farm barn. It gives you some shaping and folding and creasing experience and also gives you an idea what card modeling is all about.

   Card models can be very unforgiving because of the drawings ( If any) and sometimes the instructions seem incomplete. Some are. Watch for free downloads you can print up. Some are superior for the Genre (D.N.) and some are not worth bothering with.

   I have two downloadable ones One I have started( Well, I am halfway through one now) and the other I just stare at! Then I have a ship I have Mentioned. The M.V.Mellum. If you haven't built anything that is complicated and can drive you crazy or have doubts about your skill, Don't go there! She's one of the hardest I have done to date. To Me she's fun. But you may not see it that way!

 Stay with well known brands. JSC, WILEMHSHAVEN or SCHREIBER. there are others Such as Digital Navy , Darned good, But Not for Beginners! And some others as well. Be careful what you choose and Don't Bite off more than You Can Chew. Good Luck out there!! 

  • Member since
    January 2021
Posted by JoeSMG on Wednesday, January 13, 2021 10:05 PM

Another great post.

I'm impressed by some of the card models I've seen but am pretty sure I don't have the personality traits needed to build them. Not to mention my favorite aspect of plastic model building is the painting.

- Joe the SMG

  • Member since
    October 2019
  • From: New Braunfels, Texas
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Thursday, January 14, 2021 9:48 AM

Hi;

      In response to your comment. You can Paint paper Models! What you do Before! you ever start cutting is lay out the pages or sheets and spray both sides with Craftint or other brand or Clear fixative.

       What this does is seal the paper from moisture. Aleens still works. It just prevents the paper from being affected by Humidity and or other moisture. I have painted many as I build them just like plastic. That is building the component and if not liking the color, then spraying the clear and after it dries, painting my choice Of color or shade of drybrush.

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    January 2021
Posted by JoeSMG on Saturday, January 16, 2021 12:13 PM

That makes perfect sense - Initially I thought it wasn't apples and apples, as on plastic minor details are physically raised or depressed, when painting various dry-brushing techniques can really add (or detract!) to the finished models realism. And I reasoned, this wouldn't be true of smaller scale card model, like capital ships, where significant detail is printed on the paper and would be lost if painted.

But as I was writing my response, I realized if I changed the way I painted to suite the medium it could still be done. I could probably get some pretty cool effects with watercolors, applied VERY carefully of course... Hum a 3D work of art... interesting... Everything would be cheaper and less toxic too.

- Joe the SMG

  • Member since
    October 2019
  • From: New Braunfels, Texas
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Sunday, January 17, 2021 5:50 PM

Hi JoeSMG;

      I have to tell you this in all truth. The sky's the limit as far as paper is concerned. You can cut out windows and add depth by putting paper or clear plastic behind. Portholes? Thats what punches are for and my punch set I got from Micro-Mark has just the right size punches!

     There is nothing you can do to paper you cannot do to plastic , Except major surgery. You can sand it carefully to make stuff fit better. No matter how careful you are you'll not always be ON The Line! That's right, On paper you cut ON the line, Not next to it!

       If you are a little off, that's what White Glue, From Hobby Lobby, and Sanding boards from the beauty supply house is for! A little gentle sanding after hardening the edge with either White Glue or if you are in a hurry C.A. and some patience will do. Everyting will fit and then some!

    As far as painting and weathering are concerned this is what I am doing. I am now, using Tamiya Acrylics and Lacquer thinner with a wee bit of retarder. Brushes great and yes, you can after sealing it with the clear I mentioned, use watercolors as dot filters too! Many kits now come with Laser cut extra sets that include doors, ladders etc. I still will use some plastic parts, But many times I cheat and create the smallest parts from plastic. Why? Well, sometimes the glue softens the paper part, so, because of it's small size it just almost is unuseable. 

  • Member since
    January 2021
Posted by JoeSMG on Sunday, January 17, 2021 8:53 PM

Really good information and I like the sound of laser cut detail parts. If I weren't currently on year two of a 3D printing bender I might be looking at my first paper model but I'm close to the point where I can make just about any model I've ever wanted (if I'm willing to put in the design time - which I enjoy) so I'll be sticking with it for another couple of years at least. It's been taking up a huge chunk of my free time but I really enjoy it as I'm sure you do building in paper. Once you get reasonably good at something you like, it's hard to switch gears. From what I've seen and read, building with paper/card stock is a great low cost hobby limited mostly by ones imagination. Hopefully I'll get to it before my eyes give out...

Do you have any links to project or builds your proudest of? I'd love to see them.

- Joe the SMG

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  • From: USA
Posted by keavdog on Monday, January 18, 2021 3:00 AM

Ha, love the old plug tobacco reference. 

Thanks,

John

  • Member since
    October 2019
  • From: New Braunfels, Texas
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Monday, January 18, 2021 8:25 AM

Hi JoeSMG;

         It can be fun and YES, it does work your imagination in many areas. I was given a Mitsubishi "Pajero" years ago. From a local guy at a Model show. It was a downloadable model I was told. At the time My neighbor owned one. Sooo. Well after weeks of experimenting I built this model into a passable version of the car. This is where I learned my paper" Bending" skills. Never thought you could do to paper what you do to P.E.

      I am going to get a tutorial soon from a neighbor on the Photo Thing. I either forget the steps or My password. I don't normally take pictures of underway builds. because I build mostly civilian ships and NOT warships. The folks who like civilian vessels is a lot smaller group overall then others. I don't do it becaues of type. I do it because of the sheer variety of Civilian versus Military Craft. I mean, after one Iowa or Yamato, what's left!

  • Member since
    October 2019
  • From: Cape Cod, Mass
Posted by Rick Sr on Tuesday, February 2, 2021 12:06 PM

Just ordered the HMS Alert from Ages of Sail, in 1/72. One of the things that impressed was that if you copy the part you are working so have a working paper to cut, you will still have the original, so you can screw it up, and just cut another piece if the first cut doesn't work.

So, Tanker, is it a good idea to spray the paper with a spray laquer before trying to mess things up?

And I understand waterless glues are the best to use, PVA?

According to Ages of Sail, this should be arriving Feb 8th.

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