Anyone Up for a Star trek Group build?

sumpter250 wrote:

And thanks for the compliments on the "found parts"!  it's starting to turn into a sickness because I look at nearly every scrap part I see with "potential" .....never throw anything away! This,USS Firestone NCC 8600, Class ship, Battle Cruiser, was a pure kitbash, with a couple of scratched parts (pylons, nacelle,and hull. also the megaphasers on the primary hull, and the lower photon torpedo tubes):

That looks like an updated version of the old Dreadnought class from TOS.

There was a "future" version of this, commanded by Riker in one of the later Next Gen episodes.

The dreadnought class, as best as I can determine, is similar. the secondary hull appears to be a bit shorter,somewhere between the "Constitution" class Cruiser, and the "Firestone" class Battle Cruiser, and there is no lower photon torpedo tubes, beneath the secondary hull. This is TOS, between Star Trek II, and the "Undiscovered Country".  Some of these could have been re-comissioned in the early NG era. 

sumpter250 wrote:

There was a "future" version of this, commanded by Riker in one of the later Next Gen episodes.

The ship Admiral Riker commanded was the Enterprise-D after a refit, in the final episode titled "All Good Things...".  The ship is often refered to as the "AGT E-D".  It sported a third nacelle & a mega-phaser canon under the saucer, among other small greebles.

Here's a great build by John Payne:

http://www.inpayne.com/models/agtd/agtd.html

Sumpter250:  Very impressive.  Do you have other angles to look at?  I am not sure what Prince of Styrene II is looking at.  I just do see the gaps he mentioned.  His experience is a lot better than mine.  Of course I could look at a models with big gaps and not see them.  I usually look at the subject.  I am sure when my is complete he can point out things I missed.  This why these group builds are fun.  I always miss things.

Sorry I have not been doing much.  I am taking a programming course to finish my engineering degree and that is taking all my time especially when I am lousy at it but it is a requirement. I also have to get some supplies and try Woody's suggestion on getting rig of my grooves in the saucer.

Woody, I hope things are going good for you and you came out of the storm unscathed and your family is okay.

-Scott

SNOOPY wrote:

Woody, I hope things are going good for you and you came out of the storm unscathed and your family is okay.

Yea, how's things going, Woody?  Everything getting back to normal?

I've been moving a bit slow on my build, too.  Havn't touched it in a very long time.  Work has been far too draining to feel the need to build.  Last night I did go through my greeble box to look for deflector parts.  I love parts that look very industrial, are functional & not pretty, so I think I'll be using some parts from the radial engine of a B-29.  I'll have to cut them down a bit first, but it should look cool.

Do you have other angles to look at?

The only other pics are back on page 2, a starboard side shot, and a head on shot. 

Glad to hear you're back up & running!

Oh, and here you go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qatBSS89ti0

The patterns, and the material for the Kodiak secondary hull, are waiting for me to "pay them some attention".

Model Railroading has captured my attention for the moment. I have a show to go to, end of this month, in Rockford, Il., and have been working on a logging train to run on the modules. A dozen log cars, a "loader", and upgrades to the locomotive.....easy work, lots of "research",(the internet hasn't yet been too helpful in providing the details of a steam siphon, used by the Rayonier Lumber Co. on its #111 locomotive) which is the more time consuming part of the build, and the reason I do Sci Fi.......to escape the research!

Sorry guys for not posting. I havn't started the cube, but I've been planning. I just want to let you all know that I'm still alive... BTW: SNOOPY, is there a badge for this? Thx.

 Graham

Yep, the third badge in my sig- the welder.  Here's the direct link for you:

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff5/Prince_of_Styrene_II/model%20stuff/master3a_100.jpg

.......stuff/master3a_100.jpg

Once I actually start the project, I'll have to copy that to my signature......or.....when you see that in my signature,....you'll know I've actually started working on the project! :) :) 

Well, I stated I was in, so this is the final commitment.......

The drawings have been glued to sheets of 3/32" Basswood. I now have to cut out each pattern, and assemble the subframe. Once that is done, I can start adding the styrene stringers, and then begin the (hopefully) plate-on-frame secondary hull construction. I say "hopefully", because I've never tried this method of construction. What I intend, is horizontal styrene strip "stringers", that will provide support,and attachment points for styrene, cut-and-formed individual hull plates. The overall size and shape of the hull seems to be "smooth enough" to permit this, and I believe I can get the proper shape, in styrene, by using this method. You'll know soon enough if it fails.

The easy part is done, the patterns have been cut out and assembled into the subframe of the Kodiak's secondary hull. Once the glue has thoroughly set, I can begin "fairing in", sanding the high spots off, and adding the taper to each of the frames. The hard part? applying the styrene "skin". I have to go back to the Jackill's drawings, and begin laying out the hull panels, on the actual hull, to determine the individual sizes for the "plates" (this is going to be......fun?)

The picture shows the major components, in their basic relationship to each other. The warp nacelles are from the Reliant kit, and will have to be replaced with scratch built parts made up from the drawings.

Wow. I am amazed. Not in a million years could I do something that cool. Excellent work.

Well, there you have it, I knew there had to be some benefit for living over a million years!

Thanks! the best is yet to come.......I've done the "woodwork" before, adding the styrene skin, that is totally new territory, and I'll be inventing the "technique" as I go. For those interested, the original drawing for this project is in Jackill's Star Fleet Reference Manual, ships of the fleet, Vol II. the conversion factor is 3.572 X the Jackill's drawings. I used the width of the primary hull, of the Reliant kit, and the drawing to determine sizes. (Oh No! Highschool math!!, having some real use???!!!!!)

Found this, yesterday. It's the Jackill's drawing, on the shipschematics.net site:

shipschematics.net/startrek/images/federation/battleship_kodiak.jpg 

I also found this, the "Kodiak B":

shipschematics.net/startrek/images/federation/battleship_kodiak_upgrade.jpg I would need two Enterprise "E" ( "Nemesis" ) kits to bash this one. Are these available?

sumpter250 wrote:

I also found this, the "Kodiak B": shipschematics.net/startrek/images/federation/battleship_kodiak_upgrade.jpg I would need two Enterprise "E" ( "Nemesis" ) kits to bash this one. Are these available?

Yes they are!  Round 2 (formerly Polar Lights) has re-released the E-E within the last 2-3 months.  You can find them at you friendly neighborhood LHS.

Here's Cult's page in his hobbyshop so you can see the box art.  $22 is about your average price.

http://www.culttvmanshop.com/shop/product.php?productid=16854&cat=361&page=3