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Zvezda Star Destroyer- A Work in Progress

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Zvezda Star Destroyer- A Work in Progress
Posted by robiwon on Monday, January 02, 2017 8:14 AM

Started on the Big Z Sunday. Quality, fit, and finish are top notch. The sides of the super structures are separate detail panels applied to the hull. The edges are beveled resulting in excellent fit. The side trenches assemble the same way. They are also keyed so you can't put them in the wrong place or position. For me, I'll be building the major sub assemblies then drilling and running fiber. I'll then assemble the sub assemblies.
My impression so far is excellent. I originally thought the Anigrand was better detailed, but with this being a plastic kit, the details are so much sharper. Given a choice between the two, I'd opt for the Zvezda.

Assembly starts with adding the detail panels to the lower super structures.



Then on to the trenches.




Comparison of the lower hull with the new lights/sound Revell snap together.

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Posted by KnightTemplar5150 on Monday, January 02, 2017 8:53 AM

That's a seriously nice looking ship, Robiwon! It looks as it was engineered for lighting -  with the level of detail illustrated in your photos, there is certainly no comparison here to the old AMT-ERTL kit gathering dust on my stash shelf. Looking forward to seeing how you progress through this build!

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Posted by Bish on Monday, January 02, 2017 9:12 AM

Glad you finally got your hands on it. She looks real nice, i'll be watching. I have nevr added lights to a kit before, but this almost begs out for it.

 ''I am a Norfolk man, and I glory in being so''

 On the bench: Dragon 1/72nd He 162, Revell 1/32nd He162, HPH 1/18th BMW 003 for He162.

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Posted by silentbob33 on Monday, January 02, 2017 10:00 AM
Looks like a really nice kit. Like Bish, I've never lit up a kit but this one would look really nice. I can't wait to see more.

On my bench: 1/48 Revell A-6E Intruder

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Posted by robiwon on Tuesday, January 03, 2017 7:33 AM

Got all the trench pieces installed. There are some "bare" spots that will need some greeblies added to them. Again, love the way this kit is going together. I need to order .5mm fiber optic this week. I'll start on the other super structure assemblies today and then start drilling holes. Engines will need to be drilled out as well. Here are some new pics and where she sits now.

Port side trench detail.

 

The inside edges of the starboard side trench. You'll have to drill thru both to run fiber.

 

Bare spots needing details.

 

And the upper and lower hulls resting together.

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Posted by Real G on Saturday, January 07, 2017 3:17 PM

Robiwon, how goes your build?

I started mine last night, and after six hours got most of it built.  I noticed the lower hull pieces fit with almost no step, while the lapped joint of the uppers needed a little scraping down to get a flush fit.  Also, the superstructure sidewall inserts fit better if their backsides were sanded down.  There were also a few ejector pin marks that needed to be sanded off to get the superstructure parts to fit tightly.  Did your build see similar issues?  I think the fit overall is great though.  One pipe on one of my shield generators was broken in the box, but that's easy to fix.  I'm not lighting mine, so once the minor gaps at the beveled joints are filled, it's full speed into the paint shop

Oh and by the way, I'll be cockroaching your additional sidewall details, so please hurry so I can copy it!  Wink

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Posted by armornut on Saturday, January 07, 2017 6:22 PM

Looks good robiwon, gonna keep an eye on this build and maybe star the process of getting one for myself. Can't wait to see it lit.

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Posted by robiwon on Sunday, January 08, 2017 5:38 AM

Thanks guys! Yes, sanding results in a better fit, but so far she is building great. The engineering of this kit is on par with any Japanese kit IMO. I have more pics to load today. The garbage chute is all but done with a tiny scratched Slave 1! Stay tuned....

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, January 09, 2017 7:55 AM

Wow, that looks sooooooooo nice compared to the old MPC kit! 

Just because no one understands you- it doesn't make you an artist!

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Posted by robiwon on Monday, January 09, 2017 8:10 AM

Got a lot done on the kit this weekend. I cut out the back of the spine and built a full garbage chute complete with space junk and a Slave 1. I also drilled out all the windows for the fiber optics. Started mods to the engines as well for lighting. Very productive weekend!



Space junk the Slave 1 will sit with.

Lots and lots of holes...

Looking pretty jimongous compared to the Revell snapper!

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Posted by Moff on Monday, January 09, 2017 12:50 PM

Despite the fact that I'm still grieving the loss of the Expanded Universe, this is awesome! 

How's the fit? I imagine it might be a bit finicky, what with gluing two giant slabs of plastic together Smile

 

"Gaiety is the most outstanding feature of the Soviet Union." - Josef Stalin 

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Posted by robiwon on Monday, January 09, 2017 5:31 PM

The fit of the parts is amazing. You need to be careful when adding the side panels of the super structures so that the corners line up. I recommend adding both adjoining panels at the same time so you can adjust where they meet at the corners for a gap free fit.

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Posted by Moff on Wednesday, January 11, 2017 7:04 AM

robiwon

The fit of the parts is amazing. You need to be careful when adding the side panels of the super structures so that the corners line up. I recommend adding both adjoining panels at the same time so you can adjust where they meet at the corners for a gap free fit.

 

Nice! I'm definitely checking this kit out. 

"Gaiety is the most outstanding feature of the Soviet Union." - Josef Stalin 

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Posted by robiwon on Wednesday, January 11, 2017 8:00 AM

Still waiting on fiber from the Fiber Optic Store....

Took care of the hull seam, top and bottom. I used Tulip brand fabric paint. Its basically thick acrylic paint (great for light blocking small areas too!) and dries super fast. I taped so just the seam was visible. I laid down a bead of Tulip and let it set for a minute. Then I just took my finger and wiped off the excess. Doing this also ensures the paint is down in the joint. I then removed the mask and let it sit for a few more minutes. Next I took a pointed cotton swab and cleaned up the smeared excess. Until I get primer on it its hard to tell if there is any seam left, if there is its shallower than the surrounding panel lines, plus, no lost detail from putty and sanding!






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Posted by silentbob33 on Wednesday, January 11, 2017 6:53 PM
This is looking better and better. And thanks for the awesome tip for filling seams! I might have to try that.

On my bench: 1/48 Revell A-6E Intruder

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Posted by Kolja94 on Thursday, January 12, 2017 1:34 AM

I'm definitely going to have to add this to the list, and I'll definitely be following your build!

Karl

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Posted by robiwon on Thursday, January 12, 2017 6:42 AM

Thanks guys. I got my fiber optics in the mail yesterday. I'll start adding those real soon!

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, January 12, 2017 7:38 AM

Ohhhhhhhh, looking forward to the fiber optics and the big light-up!

Clever idea on the Tulip paint, I do the same thing with Mr. Surfacer but it always used to dry up on me in the bottle. I've been using Perfect Plastic Putty for the same recently but this fabric paint looks to have it's uses too. Thanks!!! 

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Posted by robiwon on Tuesday, January 17, 2017 8:04 AM

Fiber optic work has started. There's only about 50 in this pic, just about 400 more to go. Yay Fiber!!!!!

 

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Posted by Eberline on Tuesday, January 17, 2017 8:44 AM

Wow!  Amazing stuff!  

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, January 17, 2017 8:58 AM

Nice work sofar and looking forward to seeing how the fibre opticsgoin. Is that stuff expensive?

 ''I am a Norfolk man, and I glory in being so''

 On the bench: Dragon 1/72nd He 162, Revell 1/32nd He162, HPH 1/18th BMW 003 for He162.

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Posted by robiwon on Tuesday, January 17, 2017 10:32 AM

Thanks guys!

Fiber is not expensive. I bought 5 feet of 32 strand cabel (equivelent of 160 feet) for under $14

 

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, January 17, 2017 11:44 AM

Looks awesome so far, really looking forward to seeing her all lighted up! 

Yeah Bish, fiber optic strands aren't that expensive - the problem is drilling the fifty bajillion teeny little holes to mount the stuff...... Dead

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Posted by LrdSatyr8 on Tuesday, January 17, 2017 1:01 PM

I totally feel for ya bro... had to drill over a million tiny holes for my Deathstar awhile back.  Took forever and I only went thru 5 bits! :)

Things to think about... What would happen if you put a werewolf on the moon?  h is just a little chair and the human brain named itself!

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, January 17, 2017 1:26 PM

Thnaks for the info guys, looking forward to seeing how that al comes togetehr. So if i have this right, each of those strands goes to a hole you have drilled.

 ''I am a Norfolk man, and I glory in being so''

 On the bench: Dragon 1/72nd He 162, Revell 1/32nd He162, HPH 1/18th BMW 003 for He162.

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Posted by robiwon on Tuesday, January 17, 2017 6:39 PM

Yes, each hole was drilled by hand with my Tamiya Handy Drill. I lost count after 300.

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Posted by RockyD on Wednesday, January 18, 2017 4:25 AM

this is going to be awsome when done

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, January 18, 2017 5:25 AM

Thanks rob. I have wanted tolight up a kit but never seen how its done, and this is really useful.

 ''I am a Norfolk man, and I glory in being so''

 On the bench: Dragon 1/72nd He 162, Revell 1/32nd He162, HPH 1/18th BMW 003 for He162.

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Posted by LrdSatyr8 on Wednesday, January 18, 2017 10:09 AM

There's this awesome little drill with the perfect size bits (I think they are #80) that came with the AMT/Ertl Fiber Optic Kit back in the 80's... I think it also came with the Fiber Optic version of the AMT Star Destroyer... but I can't recall.  Anyway, it's what I use exclusively for my fiber work.  The fiber cable is the 64 strand cable which works perfectly.  I've been using the same drill for the past 20+ years now.  After drilling so many holes in the DS you definitely learn how to use it without breaking the bits!  But here's my process for doing fiber work AFTER painting all the parts.

1) Drill my holes.
2) Mushroom the ends of the fibers with a candle (melt the tips just a little bit to create a "mushroom" head on the end, will prevent the fibers from slipping thru the holes).
3) Thread each fiber in the holes. (remember, the mushroom is on the OUTSIDE! LOL)
4) Use Elmer's White Glue on the backsides of the parts to hold the fibers in place, allow it to dry completely before going further.
5) Bunch the ends together with tape or shrink tube in small batchs to keep them from tangling... (I prefer tape because if you aren't careful with shrink tube, the heat can damage the fibers).
6) Using Aluminum Tape attach all the ends to the LEDs and run the power. (I like Aluminum Tape because it's really sticky and no light leaking.  Some use copper tubing, others just tape the LEDs to the ends... it's up to you, how OCD you wanna get!)

Fibers are a tricky lot but they bring a model to life like nothing else will.  I look forward to seeing your progress my friend!  

Things to think about... What would happen if you put a werewolf on the moon?  h is just a little chair and the human brain named itself!

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Posted by LrdSatyr8 on Monday, January 23, 2017 8:41 AM

I just pulled the trigger on buying this one yesterday... I hope it'll be here by my birthday in March!

Things to think about... What would happen if you put a werewolf on the moon?  h is just a little chair and the human brain named itself!

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