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Pegasus Hobbies Nautilus (Completed)

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Posted by PhoenixG on Saturday, July 2, 2022 12:07 AM

LOL! I swear I blinked and this thread doubled in size!!  Not sure if I have enough time this weekend to go back and read everything to get caught up.

Saw your clear resin cast of the globe and it looks like your mold captured it perfectly. 

My two cents (and that's vastly over valuing it) is if the globe idea isn't calling out to you, then maybe it's worth setting aside and moving on.  I've put myself in build paralysis when trying to do something that just didn't resonate with me.

All that aside, good luck with your Star Trek build.  Just like this one, I look forward to seeing how it turns out! Big Smile

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Posted by Bakster on Saturday, July 2, 2022 6:43 AM

LOL! I swear I blinked and this thread doubled in size!!

Just since yesterday! I guess people needed some comedy relief! I know that I do. But.. we shall always circle back to the build.

My two cents (and that's vastly over valuing it) is if the globe idea isn't calling out to you, then maybe it's worth setting aside and moving on.  I've put myself in build paralysis when trying to do something that just didn't resonate with me.

That is sound advice, PhoenixG. I have been caught in that trap more than once. It's a fine line that we walk. We don't grow in our skills by playing it safe, but knowing when to move on is paramount. So, your comment is timely. I had determined this globe thing is not worth burning out over. I am simplifying it. I think it will still be a cool thing. More on that soon.

All that aside, good luck with your Star Trek build.  Just like this one, I look forward to seeing how it turns out! 

Thanks about that. I am determined to keep it simple. I can't handle two complex builds at the same time. And thus far, it's been fun. Currently, I am filling the join around the saucer. 

Thanks for following and for your input!

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Posted by PhoenixG on Sunday, July 3, 2022 1:10 PM

Things got real quiet.

I may have killed the fun. 

Better make a subtle exit.

leaving

 

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, July 3, 2022 1:17 PM

PhoenixG
Things got real quiet. I may have killed the fun.  Better make a subtle exit.

Lol.  But hey--thanks to whomever gave this thread 5 stars. Much appreciated.

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, July 3, 2022 3:08 PM

Stardate 100102.16 

I have reached a milestone with this build; the interior is done.

What became of the crystal? After much spent mental energy, I decided not to light it. As I suspected might happen, fiberoptic did not produce enough light to make that option viable. This then left a Led which I am sure would have worked but ... I could not break through the creative wall where the end product will flow with the build. Primarily, how to incorporate a led into the build and make the piece not look like something that has an led in it, while keeping it in theme of the boat. In short... I was not feeling it. 

Greg presented an interesting idea about Saturn. That is an idea I like a lot, but to make that work for me--I'd need to cast a whole new piece. I would not be happy using the piece I have now. And there is the rub. It would be another major time suck. And on top of that--to do what I'd want to do-- it would not be an easy thing.

With another idea in my chamber, I opted to take a different direction.

An Aquamarine Artifact

If you could shrink yourself down to read Nemo's journal-- it explains how the crystal found its way into the Nautilus. Here is the gist:

Nemo notes that while harvesting food they came across what appeared to be a paved road. They followed its course, and this led them to temples, pyramids, and other structures that were probably dwellings. It was clear to Nemo that this city met a catastrophic geological end, sinking it into the depths of the sea. Nemo writes, "Indeed! I have discovered the fabled city of Atlantis!"

As they explore, they come to a small pyramid that at its cap rests a spherical aqua colored crystal. Nemo is enamored with it and he gives the order to retrieve it. He then has it mounted in the parlor for further study.  

Nemo notes a curious fact about the crystal. The crystal is observed to glow when certain notes are struck on the organ. This might explain why his music sounds so lousy because he is trying to ignite the crystal. Indifferent In any event-- he does not understand the technology imbedded inside the crystal and what its purpose is. Let's hope it is not a death ray. Wink 

And that is the story of Nemo's crystal. 

I am posting a series of images because this may be my best chance to image them without more color distortions that the led lightbox will surely create within my camera. 

The crystal mount was painted with Alclad Brass and then sealed with MRP clear.

From here I will fill gaps and holes at the joins. I will use Apoxie Sculpt (black) to do that. Then from there-- start work on the light box. 

Lastly-- two for the price of one Bakster builds. The saucer is for the most part ready to primer. The engineering section (section below the neck) was quite the lobotomy. I had to widen each hole that the locating pins go into. I couldn't have mashed them together if I tried. Also-- the collector dish assembly, the shuttle bay doors, and the nacelle mounts all have to be inserted into the assembly before closing the two pieces. The latter is not a terrible thing-- just a nuisance if you like doing things in sections.

There is more warping going on and I am not talking about warping through space. Clamps will be the order of the day.  All that said-- nothing that can't be fixed. 

And that is that.

 

 

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Posted by DUSTER on Monday, July 4, 2022 12:44 AM

Bakster, I quite like the globe as is. it has a nice color that is not evident anywhere else and thus stands out as "an object of wonder" etc. etc. 

OR it could be said,  We don' neeed no steekin' globe 

                                                    

p.s. like what you've done to the place, all very gen-teeel like 

Steve

Building the perfect model---just not quite yet  Confused

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Posted by Greg on Monday, July 4, 2022 7:20 AM

Interior looks great, Steve. Always enjoy your model interiors. The globe really adds a lot.

Duster makes a good point, it makes for a very good splash of accent color.

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Posted by Bakster on Monday, July 4, 2022 9:07 AM

 

Bakster, I quite like the globe as is. it has a nice color that is not evident anywhere else and thus stands out as "an object of wonder" etc. etc.


Good. That is the feeling I get too. 

 

OR it could be said,  We don' neeed no steekin' globe


Gosh darn right! That's what charts are for and Nemo has plenty.

Thanks for your post, Duster!

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Posted by Bakster on Monday, July 4, 2022 9:25 AM

Greg

Interior looks great, Steve. Always enjoy your model interiors. The globe really adds a lot.

Duster makes a good point, it makes for a very good splash of accent color.

 

Thanks, Greg. 

Milwaukee has a museum and my favorite section is an area called, Old Milwaukee. They made it like you are literally walking down the street at night in old Milwaukee. The streets are cobblestone and on the sides are shops depicting people and structure of the time. They even have huge trees that tower over the street. The scene is so well done it creates a mood. I love any dio or depiction that stirs a mood. I'd like a mansion like that. Lol. 

See the video below at around the 5 min mark.

https://youtu.be/V1PVkbbj1lk

 

 

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Posted by Greg on Monday, July 4, 2022 11:25 AM

I'd love to visit the Streets of Old Milwaukee and the European Village. If I'm not mistaken, Chicago's Museum of Science and Industry has or had a similar old town street full sized diorama in the basement, and it was always my favorite part of the museum. I don't remember it as being nearly as well-done as yours. Not sure if it's still there.

When I stopped by Robin's AFB Museum of Aviation in May, there were a few full size dioramas there too.

I can see how the 'streets' display would be a great inspiration for your details interiors, as well as motivation to create them.

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, July 4, 2022 11:53 AM

The Nautilus interior looks awesome Bakster!

And the Big-E is coming along nicely. Good kit but I yeah there are some big fit issues. I had serious issues getting the struts for the primary hull and nacelles cleaned up and faired in. 

 

Funny about the ancient city of Atlantis, it's been forever since I've read '20,000' - I really need to read it again. Recently I did reread the H.P. Lovecraft story 'The Temple' about a U-Boat that sails into an ancient underwater temple. And the captain and crew, well it's a Lovecraft story so it's not really a spoiler... they all go batguano crazy...

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Monday, July 4, 2022 12:26 PM

Bakster
They even have huge trees that tower over the street. The scene is so well done it creates a mood. I love any dio or depiction that stirs a mood.

Probably is issing the smells of hay an manure it probably ought have, for ful senosry immersion.

Which might be a bit more "immersion" than some muesu goers might want.  Although, that's part of the charm of "living history" places like Colonial Williamsberg and the like.

There's a differentce in making a scale boat versus a 1:1 wooden boat.  The smells of the shavings, the hoil oil on the bearings of the tools, lacquer, dolphinite, and all the rest.

The shortest sensory nerve paths to the brain are in the olfactory nerves--smell and taste.  That's why they can be so evocative.

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Posted by Bakster on Monday, July 4, 2022 12:30 PM

Greg

I'd love to visit the Streets of Old Milwaukee and the European Village. If I'm not mistaken, Chicago's Museum of Science and Industry has or had a similar old town street full sized diorama in the basement, and it was always my favorite part of the museum. I don't remember it as being nearly as well-done as yours. Not sure if it's still there.

When I stopped by Robin's AFB Museum of Aviation in May, there were a few full size dioramas there too.

I can see how the 'streets' display would be a great inspiration for your details interiors, as well as motivation to create them.

 

Those sound cool, Greg. What was the Robins AFB diorma like? 

And yes, it is an insporation. I attempted to get a job there when I was a young lad. Apparently, no museum skills was an issue. Lol. 

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Posted by Bakster on Monday, July 4, 2022 12:38 PM

Thanks, Gam. 

 I had serious issues getting the struts for the primary hull and nacelles cleaned up and faired in. 

Nice.  Something more to look forward to! Blah!

 

Funny about the ancient city of Atlantis, it's been forever since I've read '20,000' 


So it's in the book? I have not read it yet and I must do so. And here I thought I was conjurig up a new idea. Lol.


Recently, I did reread the H.P. Lovecraft story 'The Temple' about a U-Boat that sails into an ancient underwater temple. And the captain and crew, well it's a Lovecraft story so it's not really a spoiler... they all go batguano crazy..


That sounds right up my alley. I will try reading that too.

 

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Posted by Bakster on Monday, July 4, 2022 12:53 PM

Probably is issing the smells of hay an manure it probably ought have, for ful senosry immersion.


I don't recall them doing that but that sounds like a good idea. Btw. Cow manure doesn't bother me. Or at least not up until you get within feet of it. Then it's a bit too ripe.

 

Although, that's part of the charm of "living history" places like Colonial Williamsberg and the like.


That is on my bucket list for retirement. 

The shortest sensory nerve paths to the brain are in the olfactory nerves--smell and taste.  That's why they can be so evocative.

You know what my favorite smell is? I love the smell of Cedar. I have cedar blocks in my Amazon wish list. I don't know why I have not ordered it. Maybe because some people were complanning it not pungent enough. Funny how scent affects one person to another. I love cedar, a friend of my hates it. She can't stand it. Same with taste. I love watermelon, she hates it. I tell her, how can you hate watermelon! It's the nectar of the gods.

 

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Posted by Bakster on Monday, July 4, 2022 1:06 PM

 

I did reread the H.P. Lovecraft story


Hey Gam, I was just searching for it. Looking like I need more specific info on the title. juice me up, brother.

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Posted by Greg on Monday, July 4, 2022 1:10 PM

Bakster
Those sound cool, Greg. What was the Robins AFB diorma like?

There were more than one. The non-avaition themed ones I recall most vividly depicted the war as it played out in China. One was the inside of what I presume was a home or hut, 'borrowed' for use as a field office. There was a walk though dio of the Great Wall nearby, which took a whole lot less effort to explore then the real one!

Otherwise, 1:1 aircraft were displayed in diorama settings, rather than just sitting around as museum aircraft most often do. The first one comes to mind was a very well done Huey gunship dio, in the Vietnam building.

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Posted by Bakster on Monday, July 4, 2022 1:14 PM

Greg

 

 
Bakster
Those sound cool, Greg. What was the Robins AFB diorma like?

 

There were more than one. The non-avaition themed ones I recall most vividly depicted the war as it played out in China. One was the inside of what I presume was a home or hut, 'borrowed' for use as a field office. There was a walk though dio of the Great Wall nearby, which took a whole lot less effort to explore then the real one!

Otherwise, 1:1 aircraft were displayed in diorama settings, rather than just sitting around as museum aircraft most often do. The first one comes to mind was a very well done Huey gunship dio, in the Vietnam building.

 

Gotcha, that sounds cool. Must add that to my list!

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, July 4, 2022 2:05 PM

Bakster

 

I did reread the H.P. Lovecraft story


Hey Gam, I was just searching for it. Looking like I need more specific info on the title. juice me up, brother.

 

Oh my apologies, I thought you said Atlantis was in the novel version of '20,000 Leagues'. It's been forever since I've read it and didn't remember.

 

The Lovecraft story is 'The Temple' 1925. I found a complete copy online, it's not a very long story:

https://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/texts/fiction/te.aspx

It's a tad bigoted against Germans but hey, he wrote it a few years after WWI so I'm not too surprised.

 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, July 4, 2022 2:15 PM

Bakster

 

 
Greg

 

 
Bakster
Those sound cool, Greg. What was the Robins AFB diorma like?

 

There were more than one. The non-avaition themed ones I recall most vividly depicted the war as it played out in China. One was the inside of what I presume was a home or hut, 'borrowed' for use as a field office. There was a walk though dio of the Great Wall nearby, which took a whole lot less effort to explore then the real one!

Otherwise, 1:1 aircraft were displayed in diorama settings, rather than just sitting around as museum aircraft most often do. The first one comes to mind was a very well done Huey gunship dio, in the Vietnam building.

 

 

 

Gotcha, that sounds cool. Must add that to my list!

 

Those sound cool guys, I'd love to visit them.

The Naval Aviation Museum in Pensicola, Florida has a rather small but neat area of a short walk though a 1940's shopping district.

And Williamsburg is cool to walk though although they'd renovated a lot of stuff for a Revoluntionary War theme instead of a Colonial theme. Still it's great to be able to see recreations of what things would have looked like back then. And there are carriage rides with horses so there's ahem... 'road apples' lying around. 

Jamestown is much less built up. Other than the three ships, Susan Constant, Godspeed, and Discovery and a replica of a fort and American Indian encampment you'd have seen at that time most of the area is still just bare sites for the research digs.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Bakster on Monday, July 4, 2022 2:29 PM

Ok found it. Thanks Gam.

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Posted by Bakster on Monday, July 4, 2022 6:39 PM

I started mixing Apoxie Sculpt when it hit me. Why the effort to stuff putty into joins? It is more work than it's worth. It would be much easier to fill the gaps using sprue-goo. So, that is what I did. Eventually, I will paint the outer shell in black for light blocking.

Anyhow, a mundane correction.

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Tuesday, July 5, 2022 3:13 PM

That Unit!

       Sorry, Gotta break Your heart! Nah, Just kidding! It does look like it could be used in a SteamPunk Airship too! Awesome progress here. Even though it isn't The Disney/Harper Goff design, You are making me want one, you realize that don't you?

       Yer makin it so gorgeous, I do hope you've figgered out the Lighting. Wouldn't want to miss all that in the dark now, would we? If'n youse don't light it, I will be very dissappointed in ya! Just think. A fully lighted 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea Lighted and Bubbles escaping, Subarine (misspelt intentionally!) within a Tropical Fish Acquarium! And NO, NOT,with the genetically altered Glowing Fish either! You could even have the Squid suspended within the scene like it's starting the chase! With flexible tentacles too! LOL!LOL!LOL!

      I would actually try that. I did the Aurora,"Black Falcon" Pirate Ship in my Fish Tank, Long before they marketed it as a bubbler! As a matter of fact I bought one just to check it out. It was created from the Black Falcon Molds. Every single part of the kit was interchangeable with the Bubbler! In the Bigger tank-100gallon. I had two kits as "Shipwreck Bubblers".The Heller La Gliore and the Heller Trireme model " In the other 100 gal tank I had an old Steam "Tramp" and a W.W.2 Cruiser wreck bubblers!

      My Missus got bit by By the idea, and created her own 50 gal. Tank With the Dio of a more historical Atlantis. We often had many fish in our tanks that were offered by the Zoo. We helped keep them supplied with The States wild natural fishes for Breeding( We returned them to where we caught them,) and they would "Pay" us with tropical fishes that closing Restaurants and Offices would give up!  

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Tuesday, July 5, 2022 3:49 PM

When I did it!

        The resin was gently poured over the Windshield in a very thin layer. The W.D. 40 had been applied then carefully and lightly wiped away leaving a slippery surface. So I thought to myself,"Ah, What the hell, Let's see if thiss'll work!" Just another crazy experiment of mine!

        I was looking at a German aircraft kit, Well, my parts box of given parts. I have the Nose Glass from two, Bombers I think. Multiple panes in a gem surface type shape.Perfect for a steam Punk what If design?

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Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, July 5, 2022 4:25 PM

Tanker-Builder

When I did it!

        The resin was gently poured over the Windshield in a very thin layer. The W.D. 40 had been applied then carefully and lightly wiped away leaving a slippery surface. So I thought to myself,"Ah, What the hell, Let's see if thiss'll work!" Just another crazy experiment of mine!

        I was looking at a German aircraft kit, Well, my parts box of given parts. I have the Nose Glass from two, Bombers I think. Multiple panes in a gem surface type shape.Perfect for a steam Punk what If design?

 

Sounds good TB.

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Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, July 5, 2022 4:28 PM

I do hope you've figgered out the Lighting. Wouldn't want to miss all that in the dark now, would we? If'n youse don't light it, I will be very dissappointed in ya!

Oh for sure. I would not go through all this work and not light the beast.

Interesting thoughts about the bubblers, TB.

 

You are making me want one, you realize that don't you?


Just do it...

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Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, July 5, 2022 4:51 PM

Speaking of lighting... I worked on the light box today. I made the box by using Evergreen styrene sheets that were then cut to size.

The plan is to cut holes at the ends and mount one each 5mm led. They will face each other. The hope is their light will bounce around inside the box and then down into the parlor via the openings in the ceiling. I am mounting them that way to avoid making visual hotspots.

I will start there and see how it goes. If I must add additional leds, I will.

I don't have the leds I want, so I had to order them. They ship quickly, and I would expect them maybe by the weekend. There are other things I can work on until then.

 

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Wednesday, July 6, 2022 1:59 PM

Keeps building up quite nicely.  Globe turned outstanding, and it's fitting up nicely.

Lots of cool "living history" places to visit.  Put Mystic Seaport on your list.

Well, dang it, my f/b feed popped up a photo of SeaView.

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, July 6, 2022 7:30 PM

Bakster: Looks good, you're making great progress! 

Captain: Great photo of the Seaview!!! 

TB: You're an everflowing fount of ideas! Always love your comments. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, July 6, 2022 7:34 PM

CapnMac82

Keeps building up quite nicely.  Globe turned outstanding, and it's fitting up nicely.

Lots of cool "living history" places to visit.  Put Mystic Seaport on your list.

Well, dang it, my f/b feed popped up a photo of SeaView.

 

Thanks, Capn.  And that is a hoot about Seaview. Once again, going full circle!

Now there is a thought. In a battle between Seaview and the Nautilus... who'd win? I kind of think Seaview with all the modern armament. But then again... Nemo is a sneaky sort. 

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