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Posted by SoD Stitch on Wednesday, February 04, 2009 1:00 PM
 sumpter250 wrote:

And thanks for the compliments on the "found parts"!  it's starting to turn into a sickness because I look at nearly every scrap part I see with "potential"

.....never throw anything away! This,USS Firestone NCC 8600, Class ship, Battle Cruiser, was a pure kitbash, with a couple of scratched parts (pylons, nacelle,and hull. also the megaphasers on the primary hull, and the lower photon torpedo tubes):

 

That looks like an updated version of the old Dreadnought class from TOS.

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Posted by sumpter250 on Wednesday, February 04, 2009 1:23 PM

There was a "future" version of this, commanded by Riker in one of the later Next Gen episodes.

The dreadnought class, as best as I can determine, is similar. the secondary hull appears to be a bit shorter,somewhere between the "Constitution" class Cruiser, and the "Firestone" class Battle Cruiser, and there is no lower photon torpedo tubes, beneath the secondary hull. This is TOS, between Star Trek II, and the "Undiscovered Country".  Some of these could have been re-comissioned in the early NG era. 

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Posted by Woody on Wednesday, February 04, 2009 6:10 PM
I have been in the middle of the ice storm that crippled Missouri. We have been without power so I still haven't gotten to start. Maybe this weekend.

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones
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Posted by Archangel on Wednesday, February 04, 2009 8:12 PM
Don't feel bad. I have yet to get beyond the design stage .
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Posted by Woody on Wednesday, February 04, 2009 8:21 PM
Well sitting in the dark, drawing by candle light did let me refine my design. I'm very happy with the design and I can't wait to make it a reality.

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones
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Posted by Prince of Styrene II on Thursday, February 05, 2009 12:28 AM

 sumpter250 wrote:
There was a "future" version of this, commanded by Riker in one of the later Next Gen episodes.

The ship Admiral Riker commanded was the Enterprise-D after a refit, in the final episode titled "All Good Things...".  The ship is often refered to as the "AGT E-D".  It sported a third nacelle & a mega-phaser canon under the saucer, among other small greebles.

Here's a great build by John Payne:

http://www.inpayne.com/models/agtd/agtd.html

"Hold the weapons, Daddy. I'm going to go get my monkeys." The Dutchess of Styrene

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Posted by sumpter250 on Thursday, February 05, 2009 1:40 PM
I bookmarked that "build page"! Now, I think I'll take up knitting.......that was an extremely nice bit of modelbuilding!!! I suspect that the two "things" on the top of the saucer P/S of the bridge, are forms of megaphasers, perhaps an evolution of the ones on USS Reliant (Wrath of Kahn).

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Posted by Prince of Styrene II on Friday, February 06, 2009 1:00 AM
Yea, John's an excellent builder, & very speedy at it, too, when he wants to be. Big Smile [:D]  And I think you're right about those little phasers.

"Hold the weapons, Daddy. I'm going to go get my monkeys." The Dutchess of Styrene

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Posted by SNOOPY on Thursday, February 12, 2009 7:13 AM

Sumpter250:  Very impressive.  Do you have other angles to look at?  I am not sure what Prince of Styrene II is looking at.  I just do see the gaps he mentioned.  His experience is a lot better than mine.  Of course I could look at a models with big gaps and not see them.  I usually look at the subject.  I am sure when my is complete he can point out things I missed.  This why these group builds are fun.  I always miss things.

Sorry I have not been doing much.  I am taking a programming course to finish my engineering degree and that is taking all my time especially when I am lousy at it but it is a requirement. I also have to get some supplies and try Woody's suggestion on getting rig of my grooves in the saucer.

Woody, I hope things are going good for you and you came out of the storm unscathed and your family is okay.

-Scott

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Posted by Prince of Styrene II on Thursday, February 12, 2009 8:01 AM

 SNOOPY wrote:
Woody, I hope things are going good for you and you came out of the storm unscathed and your family is okay.

Yea, how's things going, Woody?  Everything getting back to normal?

 

I've been moving a bit slow on my build, too.  Havn't touched it in a very long time.  Work has been far too draining to feel the need to build.  Last night I did go through my greeble box to look for deflector parts.  I love parts that look very industrial, are functional & not pretty, so I think I'll be using some parts from the radial engine of a B-29.  I'll have to cut them down a bit first, but it should look cool.

"Hold the weapons, Daddy. I'm going to go get my monkeys." The Dutchess of Styrene

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Posted by sumpter250 on Thursday, February 12, 2009 11:56 AM

Do you have other angles to look at?

The only other pics are back on page 2, a starboard side shot, and a head on shot. 

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Posted by Woody on Friday, February 13, 2009 6:08 AM
Everything is mostly back to normal. I'm an ebay power seller and the lack of services has set me back a couple of weeks but I'm getting caught up. I guess that is why I can't seem to find the time to get anything done on my GB entry. Maybe I just need somebody to come over and give me a swift kick in the behind! LOL

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones
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Posted by Prince of Styrene II on Friday, February 13, 2009 8:14 AM

Glad to hear you're back up & running!

Oh, and here you go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qatBSS89ti0

 

"Hold the weapons, Daddy. I'm going to go get my monkeys." The Dutchess of Styrene

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Posted by Woody on Friday, February 13, 2009 12:50 PM
Man that looked painful! Shock [:O]

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones
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Posted by SNOOPY on Friday, March 06, 2009 7:05 AM
Hey everyone.  It looks like some of us have hit the wall a bit.  I know I have.  This doing school, work, and kids is like three full time jobs with sleeping at night is the only relax time I get.  I have not touched anything resembling a model since classes started.  Woody glad things are getting back to normal.  I have a break in school coming up may be I can get back to working on my builds.
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Posted by Prince of Styrene II on Friday, March 06, 2009 10:26 AM
Yea, I admit I have.  There's a couple other builds on my bench that I'm trying to build at the same time (one for a comission, one is to show my little cousin some techniques) so those have been taking precedence.  But most day I'm just too tired to pick up an X-Acto.  I have been picking through the bits box to find some greebles for the neck area & found something that will work pretty well.  Hopefully I'll be able to so some work soon.

"Hold the weapons, Daddy. I'm going to go get my monkeys." The Dutchess of Styrene

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Posted by sumpter250 on Friday, March 06, 2009 1:42 PM

The patterns, and the material for the Kodiak secondary hull, are waiting for me to "pay them some attention".

Model Railroading has captured my attention for the moment. I have a show to go to, end of this month, in Rockford, Il., and have been working on a logging train to run on the modules. A dozen log cars, a "loader", and upgrades to the locomotive.....easy work, lots of "research",(the internet hasn't yet been too helpful in providing the details of a steam siphon, used by the Rayonier Lumber Co. on its #111 locomotive) which is the more time consuming part of the build, and the reason I do Sci Fi.......to escape the research!

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Posted by Boba Fett on Thursday, March 12, 2009 7:48 PM

Sorry guys for not posting. I havn't started the cube, but I've been planning. I just want to let you all know that I'm still alive... BTW: SNOOPY, is there a badge for this? Thx.

 Graham

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Posted by Prince of Styrene II on Friday, March 13, 2009 12:17 AM

Yep, the third badge in my sig- the welder.  Here's the direct link for you:

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff5/Prince_of_Styrene_II/model%20stuff/master3a_100.jpg

 

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Posted by sumpter250 on Friday, March 13, 2009 12:14 PM

.......stuff/master3a_100.jpg

Once I actually start the project, I'll have to copy that to my signature......or.....when you see that in my signature,....you'll know I've actually started working on the project! :) :) 

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Posted by Prince of Styrene II on Tuesday, March 17, 2009 10:37 AM
No pictures yet, but I did a bit of work on my ship last night.  There's some holes on the neck's side that needed filled, which I did with scrap styrene & Aves.  I also trimmed down some other greebles to add some hull shape to the neck as well.  When I sand down the Aves, I'll post some pics.

"Hold the weapons, Daddy. I'm going to go get my monkeys." The Dutchess of Styrene

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Posted by sumpter250 on Saturday, March 28, 2009 4:24 PM

Well, I stated I was in, so this is the final commitment.......

The drawings have been glued to sheets of 3/32" Basswood. I now have to cut out each pattern, and assemble the subframe. Once that is done, I can start adding the styrene stringers, and then begin the (hopefully) plate-on-frame secondary hull construction. I say "hopefully", because I've never tried this method of construction. What I intend, is horizontal styrene strip "stringers", that will provide support,and attachment points for styrene, cut-and-formed individual hull plates. The overall size and shape of the hull seems to be "smooth enough" to permit this, and I believe I can get the proper shape, in styrene, by using this method. You'll know soon enough if it fails.

 

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Posted by sumpter250 on Monday, March 30, 2009 1:19 PM

The easy part is done, the patterns have been cut out and assembled into the subframe of the Kodiak's secondary hull. Once the glue has thoroughly set, I can begin "fairing in", sanding the high spots off, and adding the taper to each of the frames. The hard part? applying the styrene "skin". I have to go back to the Jackill's drawings, and begin laying out the hull panels, on the actual hull, to determine the individual sizes for the "plates" (this is going to be......fun?)

The picture shows the major components, in their basic relationship to each other. The warp nacelles are from the Reliant kit, and will have to be replaced with scratch built parts made up from the drawings.

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Posted by Prince of Styrene II on Monday, March 30, 2009 3:57 PM
Great ribbing there!!  Looking forward to the rest of your progress.

"Hold the weapons, Daddy. I'm going to go get my monkeys." The Dutchess of Styrene

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Posted by Boba Fett on Tuesday, March 31, 2009 11:06 AM
Wow. I am amazed. Not in a million years could I do something that cool. Excellent work.

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Posted by sumpter250 on Tuesday, March 31, 2009 2:04 PM

Wow. I am amazed. Not in a million years could I do something that cool. Excellent work.

Well, there you have it, I knew there had to be some benefit for living over a million years!

Thanks! the best is yet to come.......I've done the "woodwork" before, adding the styrene skin, that is totally new territory, and I'll be inventing the "technique" as I go. For those interested, the original drawing for this project is in Jackill's Star Fleet Reference Manual, ships of the fleet, Vol II. the conversion factor is 3.572 X the Jackill's drawings. I used the width of the primary hull, of the Reliant kit, and the drawing to determine sizes. (Oh No! Highschool math!!, having some real use???!!!!!)

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Posted by sumpter250 on Saturday, April 04, 2009 2:40 PM

Found this, yesterday. It's the Jackill's drawing, on the shipschematics.net site:

shipschematics.net/startrek/images/federation/battleship_kodiak.jpg 

I also found this, the "Kodiak B":

shipschematics.net/startrek/images/federation/battleship_kodiak_upgrade.jpg I would need two Enterprise "E" ( "Nemesis" ) kits to bash this one. Are these available?

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Posted by Prince of Styrene II on Sunday, April 05, 2009 8:22 AM
 sumpter250 wrote:
I also found this, the "Kodiak B":

shipschematics.net/startrek/images/federation/battleship_kodiak_upgrade.jpg I would need two Enterprise "E" ( "Nemesis" ) kits to bash this one. Are these available?

Yes they are!  Round 2 (formerly Polar Lights) has re-released the E-E within the last 2-3 months.  You can find them at you friendly neighborhood LHS.

"Hold the weapons, Daddy. I'm going to go get my monkeys." The Dutchess of Styrene

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Posted by sumpter250 on Sunday, April 05, 2009 10:40 AM
Sweet! By the time I've finished Kodiak, I should have been able to save aside enough for two of them.........yeah, I should be careful what I wish for!

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Posted by Prince of Styrene II on Sunday, April 05, 2009 11:13 AM

Here's Cult's page in his hobbyshop so you can see the box art.  $22 is about your average price.

http://www.culttvmanshop.com/shop/product.php?productid=16854&cat=361&page=3

 

"Hold the weapons, Daddy. I'm going to go get my monkeys." The Dutchess of Styrene

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