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Scratchbuilt AT-AT and Cantina *Guns, Guns, GunsWIP*

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Posted by NucMedTech on Friday, July 15, 2016 1:57 PM

Man that is going to be big! Looking great though, can't wait to see it all together. Bet your son is getting excited about playing with it when it's done.

Most barriers to your successes are man made. And most often you are the man who made them. -Frank Tyger

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Posted by Stern0 on Wednesday, July 13, 2016 7:10 PM
Thanks Gamera. .hopefully the next update will be her all put together, then on to paint and weathering.
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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, July 13, 2016 9:46 AM

Gee, it all looks cool to me. Yes

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Posted by Stern0 on Wednesday, July 13, 2016 5:16 AM

Hey fellas, here is a botched attempt at a update. The feet are in the works. The rest of the pics are the system to attach the head..two table leg sections attached from the inside..a spacer in the middle of the legs to keep them straight. The 2x is hose clamped to the table legs. The whole thing slides into a slot on body where a channel was made early in construction.sorry its not real clear..I attached the neck temporarily,  but its stuck..was scared to force it off. I hope this is clear enough, if not I will try to get better pics..thank you guys for the intrest!

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, July 12, 2016 8:21 AM

NucMedTech

Sterno, looking forward to more updates. If you do have pics of the cantilever design, don't know about anyone else, but,I would like to see how it works

 

Ditto   Big Smile

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Posted by NucMedTech on Monday, July 11, 2016 6:47 PM

Sterno, looking forward to more updates. If you do have pics of the cantilever design, don't know about anyone else, but,I would like to see how it works

Most barriers to your successes are man made. And most often you are the man who made them. -Frank Tyger

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Posted by Stern0 on Thursday, July 7, 2016 4:34 AM
Rob, thanks for giving her the once over and your positive comments. Having fun is just about the only reason I do this. I do get caught up on the details sometimes,which is a little frustrating . I am a little confused on your comment on being obscured though, not sure what you mean. I know it's not perfect , but im not sweating that so much. Thanks again. Have been working on the feet and I hope to have a update soon!
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Posted by Rob Beach on Tuesday, June 7, 2016 10:59 PM

Hat's off, you're doing a wonderful job of this build.  Perhaps it was a bit obscured as you've gone along, but these will be (at the very least) amazing toys for your boy (and you, perhaps?)  The fact that you are also incorporating excellent fidelity to the originals is just gravy.  Plus, it makes them much easier to explain as 'display pieces' when showing them off to friends, guests, etc ~ ;^P

Sounds like you're having fun so mission accomplished.

Regards, Robert

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Posted by Stern0 on Monday, May 2, 2016 7:56 PM

Many thanks guys!

NucMed.. the head is attached by two tubes bolted on the back of the head horizontally,  from the inside. A two footish 2x4 is hose clamped on the tubes..the 2x slides into front of body into a channel . The head is pretty heavy now , I wish I had made a better cantilever system, but it serves the purpose..ill try to get some pics of it up if you want

Chris..i guess it will stay where its built.  I have nowhere else to put it..lol..

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Posted by Scarecrow Joe on Sunday, May 1, 2016 11:04 PM

Nope. After reading your post I think I got it right the FIRST time. You are giving a distorted image of the RPF and I stand behind what I said the first time. For respect to the OP I will stop further discussion of the subject (here and elsewhere, including PMs) and leave you with your biased and unfair ideas.  Anyone interested in the RPF should try it and reach their own ideas. Thats all I will say about it.

Good luck with your project OP!

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Posted by Cobra 427 on Sunday, May 1, 2016 10:35 PM

Scarecrow Joe

This is a great build and props to the OP for tackling such a difficult task and getting these awsome results!

Cobra if you had a negative experience at the rpf it shouldnt be an issue in this guy's thread. It seems you just found an excuse to vent your frustrations and have just generalized and tainted a lot of really great builders in that site. Yes they are pretty meticulous in their approach and just want to get the builds as close as the real prop as possible. But the site IS ALIVE and is a plasure to navigate through, contrary to this site which is basically dying a slow death. Its not true that most build pre made kits....there are LOTS of original builds. I built a straight out of the box MPC falcon and recieved mostly positive comments. Just wanted to correct some misinfo.

OP, I hope you can complete that wonderfully crafted AT-AT and plan to follow your build! Keep up the good work!

 

I'm sorry that you see it that way. I'm afraid that you misunderstood my last post. Without getting off topic, this build has that authenticity that a perfectly built model lacks. All the rpf builders stroke each others' ego with the usual comments like "Awesome!", "Great build!", "I can't believe my eyes!" ,"You've really nailed it perfectly with this one!"  The staff their couldn't give two shits in hell about the members with the "ban log" that they proudly announce as if they've done something wonderful for the world, and throw their weight around like they have the modeling, prop, costume world on a leash!

The only thing that kills forums like this is too many Huey choppers, armour, and how many times can you look at a millenium falcon until they all start to look alike? It's the snob appeal of the rpf with its' uber nerds that spend hundreds of dollars on model kits to replicate something rather than be happy with a recast kit of the EXACT same parts from someone who knows how to do it right the first time. Then everyone asks how much? the answer is always the same: "However much it costs me to make this, and how much I spent on kits with the resin, and rubber cost will determine it." Meaning a THOUSAND DOLLARS on up!  Their kits a perfect as possible (which I understand quality), but lack the imperfect charm of the studio originals. They try to hard to impress each other rather than have fun doing building models, or anything else! Which is the only reason why I mentioned it in the first place, and they aren't the only ones that do this. Remember: aside from what the moderators, or site administrators allow the members make a modeling forum what it is.

I also understand that not all of us have the same skill levels, but that isn't a factor over there - only the ones with the most interest to the core members are the ones that get the most attention. I also see that the best representations are the ones that get the most praise. However, most of the builds like this look one another most of the time since they have the same amount of inaccuracy in their build as far as paint goes.

Back to the subject at hand: This is a great start to a wonderful project, and possibly a career in modeling! What are you planning to do with this, or rather where are you going to keep it when you are finished?

 

~ Cobra Chris

Maybe a picture of a squirrel playing a harmonica will make you feel better?

 

 

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Posted by Greg on Friday, April 29, 2016 8:31 PM

My goodness, that is one ambitious project!

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Posted by NucMedTech on Friday, April 29, 2016 8:20 PM

Sterno, looks great! How do you plan on attaching it to the body?

Most barriers to your successes are man made. And most often you are the man who made them. -Frank Tyger

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Posted by Stern0 on Thursday, April 28, 2016 4:11 PM

Roger that Scarecrow joe, thank you for looking and the positive comments. I would love to have the resources and equipment it takes to put out a hobby shop worthy model! I do take alot pride in the fact that the projects I try to put together are fashioned from, more or less, trash. I dont even know if my stuff is anywhere near wothy enough  to be posted next to some of the incredible kit builds I see...there is no way to compare the two...I would be very disapointed if I opened up a zillion dollar kit to find coffee   can lids and some 2x4 scraps..Big Smile Thanks again  for checking it out!

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Posted by Scarecrow Joe on Thursday, April 28, 2016 3:12 PM

This is a great build and props to the OP for tackling such a difficult task and getting these awsome results!

Cobra if you had a negative experience at the rpf it shouldnt be an issue in this guy's thread. It seems you just found an excuse to vent your frustrations and have just generalized and tainted a lot of really great builders in that site. Yes they are pretty meticulous in their approach and just want to get the builds as close as the real prop as possible. But the site IS ALIVE and is a plasure to navigate through, contrary to this site which is basically dying a slow death. Its not true that most build pre made kits....there are LOTS of original builds. I built a straight out of the box MPC falcon and recieved mostly positive comments. Just wanted to correct some misinfo.

OP, I hope you can complete that wonderfully crafted AT-AT and plan to follow your build! Keep up the good work!

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Posted by Stern0 on Thursday, April 28, 2016 3:02 PM

Lmao! Thanks for checking her out again Gamera...and its probably the only thing im ahead on..Stick out tongue..thanks again sir!

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, April 28, 2016 9:03 AM

Nice work Stern0, you're really getting ahead now.

 

Sorry... Embarrassed

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Posted by Stern0 on Thursday, April 28, 2016 6:36 AM

Here is a couple shots of the nearly finished head. Thank you guys for all the positive feedback!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Stern0 on Friday, April 22, 2016 4:42 AM

Axeman, many thanks!!!

Here is another small update on the main guns. Note the drawer track used for the the recoil when guns are fired, may try to rig some kind of handle to move them. Also does anyone have a detailed pic of the gun housing just forward of octagon shape. I have tons of reference photos but none show this..its kinda a dead space but would like to add some detail..thanks for looking..all the comments are much appreciated! 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Axeman on Thursday, April 21, 2016 12:58 AM

Awesome...just awesome Bow Down

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Posted by Stern0 on Wednesday, April 20, 2016 7:50 PM

Many thanks Chris! Thats some great insight to the films, and thank you for the positive comments..you are way to kind.. I dont think there is sny danger of imperfections being  fixed or in any way shape or form a flawless model. I have succumb to these flaws because most of my material is scavanged from job sights..about the only thing bought on th he walker has been a few  sheets of foam board and some dollar store LEDS. Again thank you for taking the time for sucha informative respone...hope to have more to post soon

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Posted by Cobra 427 on Saturday, April 16, 2016 12:12 AM

It's good to see you back on here after so long, Sir! I'd leave all the rougness of the head AS-IS!! Most people don't realise that when you're in the studio that you are paid BY THE JOB - not the hour! The more you build, the more you get paid. Most of the ILM models from the original Star Wars trilogy weren't perfect by any means! You could see uneveness in the paint, and joined parts. Places where they forgot to paint (overspray), and layers of paint in one area of varying colours, and gloppy uneven bondo'ed repair spots on costumes, models, and props while filming. Holes drilled for fibreoptics, but NO fibreoptics in all of them. Sloppy asymmetric shapes in a lot of models, props, and costume heads - Vader being one of them, and the Stormtrooper helmet that Liz Moore had created for Shepperton Studios being the most prominent.

Don't try to fix any of those things on your model!! I won't watch this thread if you do because it will take away all the authenticity of it! There were a LOT of sins perpetrated while filming Star Wars - another one being the Stormtroopers' helmets, pauldrons, and other parts having paint missing from them since the HDPE that they were made from didn't hold paint that well. They used automotive acrylic paint then which is very delicate on hard surfaces, and will chip easily. Hence tiny paint chips in them that you can see if you watch the original unbastardised version of it. Those gaps, and uneven parts showing through the paint, and the imperfections of your parts (on your model) make this OOZE with true ILM authenticity!

 

You see all these people kissing ass over on the rpf when one of the regulars there shows an AT-AT head that's perfect, and moulded from resin, and there are NO imperfections in it selling (a kit) for HUNDREDS of dollars.  Those just can't hold a candle to yours! Most of the people here, and abroad don't even see the "shorts", or places where air bubbles were in the mould that resin didn't fill, and scribe lines that aren't perfect with edges of plastic raised up on one side, or both, and some overlapping together. These are the tiny imperfections that impart perfection on their own level that most garage kits miss! Also the same with the moulded kits that you can buy from retail stores also miss this mark by a mile! I WANT those imperfections present in my kits. If people don't like that, then they can buy from someone else, and have less accurate, and authentic kits! It's really hard to see some of these things, but when you don't look for them, or even find them it's even worse!

Thank you for sharing this with us, and for not trying to make it look like a CNC machine made it as a lot of garage kit modelers, and model companies do. Remember - all us studio modelers are only human. Most of what we see with our eyes up close don't ever show up, and are therefore never seen on screen. You do the whole Sci-Fi modeling community proud with this one!

 

~ Cobra Chris

Maybe a picture of a squirrel playing a harmonica will make you feel better?

 

 

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Posted by Stern0 on Friday, April 15, 2016 3:17 PM

Many thanks NucMed,  and great tech info on the wind screen! It never ceases to amaze me the amount of detail involved in the creation of the Star Wars saga!

I think im going to go with clear for now, just so I can see the drivers...I wonder if switched red light would create that effect?

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Posted by NucMedTech on Monday, April 11, 2016 1:02 PM

Stern0,

    It's coming along nicely. Those cheek blasters look to be spot on.

As for the lens, I think it can go either way (although the red is better looking). Not sure it this is correct, the red tinting has something to do with blast reflectors (so it is not so bright in the cockpit). I don't know if it does this automatically when the guns fire or if they turn it on when they go into battle.

Most barriers to your successes are man made. And most often you are the man who made them. -Frank Tyger

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Posted by Stern0 on Friday, April 8, 2016 4:09 PM

Exactly what I was thinking about the red "paper" Gamera, I do have a airbrush and ill look into that paint..interesting, ..thank you sir!

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, April 7, 2016 9:20 PM

Couldn't you just tack the red wrapping paper to the clear piece with a little white glue on the corners?

If not Tamiya makes a series of translucent paint, red is X-27 that if you have an airbrush you can just spray on the clear piece to tint it red.

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Posted by Stern0 on Thursday, April 7, 2016 4:26 PM

Semper Fi T.B, and thanks for checking it out .ill be pulling her out of moth balls after I finish this beast! Thanks again!

Gamera, many thanks! have had a clear peice cut for a while, been looking for a red alternative..the best I have found is a red translucent wrapping papper kinda stuff..have yet to try it. figure it would just glue to my clear screen..we will see.. thank you for the input 

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, April 7, 2016 7:34 AM

Wow, awesome job there on the 'head'. If you're going to be putting action figures in there I think I'd just leave the windscreen clear so you can see them. Though I guess a light red tine couldn't hurt. 

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Thursday, April 7, 2016 7:21 AM

Semper Fi !

     I love the lighting effects in the Cantina ! Great job !  T.B.

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