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K’tinga from Polar Lights: Still More Light Tests

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Posted by hogfanfs on Tuesday, April 30, 2019 9:43 AM

Real G,

Wow! Some really great progress! 

 Bruce

 

 On the bench:  1/48 Eduard MiG-21MF

                        1/35 Takom Merkava Mk.I

 

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Posted by Real G on Tuesday, April 30, 2019 5:20 PM

Thanks guys!  I'll try to step it up, as I still have lots of GBs to do as well...  Embarrassed

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Posted by Real G on Monday, May 06, 2019 5:47 PM

I got a little work done this weekend when the guys came over for our monthly get together, a.k.a. craft day.  Big Smile

Blanking plates were cut and fitted above and below the command bulb window belt line to help conserve every photon from the feeble LEDs.

https://flic.kr/p/2eAAApW] [/url]K’tinga-51 by N.T. Izumi, on Flickr

I'm a measure once cut several times kind of guy, but did think about accessing the torpedo tube components.  The lower blanking plate was made from two pieces so that the torpedo clear lens and reflector could be added as a last step before closing up the bulb.

https://flic.kr/p/2fNmyd6] [/url]K’tinga-54 by N.T. Izumi, on Flickr

The small posts are to elevate the LEDs because the way Polar Lights has them is too low.  What the heck.

It is a little premature to perform a lighting test, but I could not resist.  The clear kit window inserts need to be painted gloss white on their backsides, and the window openings still need to be drilled out.  It looks terribly dull right now, but hopefully things will "brighten up" after all the necessary work is done.

https://flic.kr/p/S2QsRR] [/url]K’tinga-52 by N.T. Izumi, on Flickr

 

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Posted by Real G on Tuesday, May 07, 2019 1:30 PM

I got a little work done last night, light blocking the blanking plates, painting the backsides of the clear window bands, and installing the command bulb window belt line.

https://flic.kr/p/25daLDX] [/url]K’tinga-55 by N.T. Izumi, on Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/2eC1hYu] [/url]K’tinga-56 by N.T. Izumi, on Flickr

The belt line segments don't fit 100% (and yes I got the mixed up part numbers on the instructions sorted - the two front pieces will actually only fit reasonably well one way), so I'm using stretched sprue from the kit to fill gaps.  The plastic goes all noodly when treated with liquid cement, so it can be easily pushed into nooks and crannies.

The windows need a bit more clean up, and I hope to get this done soon so that proper kit construction can commence.

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Posted by armornut on Tuesday, May 07, 2019 2:44 PM

    Should I add "noodley" to my Klingon vocabulary?? Lol.

       Looks really cool. I almost picked one up at Hobbytown a few weeks ago to expand my skills by following your WIP. Decided I needed to eat and keep my wife lol.

   Ka'Pla!

we're modelers it's what we do

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, May 07, 2019 9:11 PM

Not sure what 'noodley' is in Klingonaanse. G'noodley???

She's awesome looking in any language though!!!!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Real G on Wednesday, May 08, 2019 12:59 AM

Well the Klingons have Gah?  It looked like Chinese beef noodles the first time I saw it on ST:TNG, but it devolved into earthworms in Chinese beef noodle sauce.

I mean, what self-respecting Klingon eats Earthworms?  The Klingon kind are so much better, and they fight back!  They are spicy, have thick hard heavy skin and hairs, and the venom from their mandibles are to die for.  Because there is no antidote.

Thanks for looking in guys!  Parts will be glued soon!

Q’pla!!!

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Posted by armornut on Thursday, May 09, 2019 4:25 AM

 Pardon me for asking.....how the heck are ya gonna mask all those beautiful well lit windows and BBQ grill?  I know my house will be struck from the high anels on Kronos for such an un warrior like observation.....a chance I'm willing to take??..however command e the question stands.

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Posted by Real G on Thursday, May 09, 2019 9:08 AM

Surprisingly, I have already thought about that one!  It’s actually quite simple - prepaint around the windows and apply strips of masking tape that correspond to the width of the black bands of the window surrounds.  The barbeque grill is treated similarly, but with just a big blanket of tape over the grille.

So you see, the Federation will not be able to stop us.

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Posted by armornut on Thursday, May 09, 2019 4:11 PM

Ka'Pla!! It is a good day to die commander. Lol.

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Posted by Real G on Saturday, May 25, 2019 8:24 PM

Lighting trials appear to be at an end.  I was not happy with the impulse engines, since the kit LEDs are puny, and yet create stubborn hot spots.

https://flic.kr/p/2g1LjSZ] [/url]K’tinga-59 by N.T. Izumi, on Flickr

I was trying a bit of everything and stuck a piece of tape over the LED to see what it would do.

https://flic.kr/p/2g1LkhH] [/url]K’tinga-60 by N.T. Izumi, on Flickr

And it worked!  The tape bounced light around the well and the translucent yellow color helped even up the light intensity, especially around the outer edges of the well.

Before:

https://flic.kr/p/2g1LFs2] [/url]K’tinga-61 by N.T. Izumi, on Flickr

After:

https://flic.kr/p/2g1LESU] [/url]K’tinga-62 by N.T. Izumi, on Flickr

Now to cobble together something permanent.

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Posted by armornut on Sunday, May 26, 2019 12:51 AM

 Good, now full impule power and then we can bring the Federation to its knees!! Unless they offer Klingon Fried Tribbles....then perhaps negotiations are in order.

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Posted by Real G on Monday, June 17, 2019 1:18 PM

I just could not live with the impulse engine lights, so I have decided to bite the bullet and add two more LEDs.  Luckly I had two spare LEDs that were the right size and color, so I'll just have to suck it up and learn to solder.

I did a light check on the warp nacelles, and wondered if the brightness needed to be bumped up.  Polar Lights provides a neat clear molded arm that simultaneously conducts lights to the four side lights and one rear light.

https://flic.kr/p/2gfy3mi] [/url]K’tinga-64 by N.T. Izumi, on Flickr

So I tried painting the inside of one nacelle chrome to see what a difference it would make.

https://flic.kr/p/2gfy33n] [/url]K’tinga-65 by N.T. Izumi, on Flickr

Although from this pic it looks like a big improvement, it is not.

https://flic.kr/p/2gfy3fw] [/url]K’tinga-66 by N.T. Izumi, on Flickr

Hard to tell huh?

https://flic.kr/p/2gfxwNK] [/url]K’tinga-67 by N.T. Izumi, on Flickr

So bottom line, you don't really need to do anything to the nacelle lights.  But there is a light leak because the nacelle end cap has a hollow, allowing the clear arm to peek out.

https://flic.kr/p/2gfxwEJ] [/url]K’tinga-68 by N.T. Izumi, on Flickr

But it will be easy to fix, either a small swatch of foil painted black on the outside, or some heavy black paint.

 

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, June 19, 2019 11:18 AM

The back-up lights of a warrior!!! 

 

All joking aside nice work G!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Real G on Monday, July 01, 2019 11:28 AM

Several people building this kit have suggested wrapping the aft warp nacelle light conductors in foil to improve brightness.  So out of curiosity I tried it - and it yielded the best results over all my tinkering!

https://flic.kr/p/2gos9tB] [/url]K’tinga-69 by N.T. Izumi, on Flickr

It was easy, like wrapping a leftover chicken wing.  I am humbled that such an easy fix made things better!   You just have to push the side lights through the foil as you wrap.

One of the last bits of lighting remaining to be looked at were these two small weirdly shaped bits that fit under the "cobra" head of the bridge.  I needed my magnifyer visor to be able to verify orientation of the parts, as they are kinda hard to see due to being molded clear and they have a funny shape.

https://flic.kr/p/2gosqXd] [/url]K’tinga-72 by N.T. Izumi, on Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/2gos9mY] [/url]K’tinga-70 by N.T. Izumi, on Flickr

I had problems jamming the LED in place until I realized that LEDs are made with a flat side to indicate polarity (I had read about it recently; I didn't know it before).  With the flat side facing outward, the LED fit in place. albeit very tightly.

Here is one of them lit up.

https://flic.kr/p/2gosPBc] [/url]K’tinga-73 by N.T. Izumi, on Flickr

The parts have what appears to be two small "bulbs", but I think there is supposed to be a strong floodlight pointing aft towards the main hull.  There is a flat surface facing the correct direction, but the instructions make no suggestions for painting.  Anyone know the answer?

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, July 04, 2019 7:46 AM

Cool! Nice to see such an easy fix! 

As to the weird thingees on the forward hull I'd seen them on the smaller kits and just assumed they were the forward disruptor mounts. I'd guess though that they were some sort of light used to light the model? Something like the registry lighting used on UFP ships though I'm guessing in this case they're not pointing at KDF insignia, the ship's name or anything like that. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Real G on Friday, July 05, 2019 12:08 PM

Gamera,

Others have helpfully informed me that the knobby clear things should be painted over except for the rectangle area facing the rear of the ship - nice and easy!  I was cautioned to take pains to effectively light block the area.

For the warp nacelle "tail light", I put a small swatch of aluminum foil attached with Future to light block the exposed area.

https://flic.kr/p/2gqZdmc] [/url]K’tinga-74 by N.T. Izumi, on Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/2gqZsuD] [/url]K’tinga-75 by N.T. Izumi, on Flickr

Note mismatch on the nacelle halves!

https://flic.kr/p/2gqZsn4] [/url]K’tinga-76 by N.T. Izumi, on Flickr

I was able to work on the model yesterday, and reached a milestone of sorts.  The warp nacelles and the side bars on the hangar deck have had their LEDs permanently attached and the parts glued together.

https://flic.kr/p/2gqZsdb] [/url]K’tinga-77 by N.T. Izumi, on Flickr

I must confess to a horrifying mistake - boys and girls, when they tell you read the instructions, they mean READ THE INSTRUCTIONS.  I didn't pay attention to which light conductor went into each nacelle, so of course I switched them.  The parts are handed, so while they do sorta fit switched around, they fit better the right way.  I didn't realize this until the glue was on the first nacelle - what tipped me off was that the nacelle end cap's opening for the tail light is slightly offset.  So I took a deep breath and pried the nacelle apart.  Fortunately there was little damage, so it's just more putty work to eliminate the scars.

It's starting to come together now.  Once all the LEDs that must go in beforehand are installed, it'll be all assembly and filling/sanding.

 

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Saturday, July 06, 2019 8:02 AM

Looks good G. I've gotten so I attach parts as soon as I cut them off the sprue- I've mixed up and lost way too many parts at this point. Glad to hear you were able to save yourself without too much muss and fuss. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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