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  • Member since
    July, 2012
  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Saturday, July 07, 2018 1:30 PM

Bakster
I just got back from a walk and I had decided to continue. I was even thinking I should focus on the interior.

Working on the interior will get the creative juices flowing.  You will be working along and "suddenly", the exterior problem will  have a solution .... and the interior will , in the meantime, be totally "PERFECT" !

Yea, I know..... This sound's a bit like being "Hypnotised" .....

( When I count to three, ... you will "Cluck like a saber-toothed chicken... )

But trust me, The Interior work will put you back on track.

And just like that,   IT FLY'S !!!

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage".

  

 

    

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    July, 2014
Posted by Bakster on Saturday, July 07, 2018 2:55 PM

littletimmy
Working on the interior will get the creative juices flowing.  You will be working along and "suddenly", the exterior problem will  have a solution

I was thinking the same thing, Tim. And if not. Maybe by then I will be ready to tackle the one that I have.

 

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    July, 2014
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, July 08, 2018 11:25 AM

With closer study it appears that the windows have a slant to them. They curl in on the upper inward corners. The plastic MIM sent me does not work. Though they have it half right that there is a curve to it, the rolled plastic they sent doesn't match at all. It would need to be warped via heat, then try and fit it.

I studied this problem a lot. I struggled to think of a solution that will give it a clean appearance, both inside out, and still give the windows a tight hold. I may have come up with something. It will be unconventional. If it works, it could be sweet. Unfortunately, I had to order something. As I get farther out into deep space, the supply line gets stretched thin. Star So--another delay. But--there are other things to do as I prep.

Below: I am testing Apoxy Sculpt as a filler to raise the office and to fill the gap. I was really impressed with this stuff when I used it on my Seaview build. It sands and shapes beautifully. I was even able to drill it without flaking or crumbling. It produced a pristine hole.

I put the bead on kind of late in the curing process. So, I am not sure how well it will hold. Trying this was an afterthought to something else I was working on. As of this morning it seems stuck well. My goal was to see how well I could shape it. If I must redo it when the expoxy is stickier, then so be it. 

The beauty of this is that I pressed the two shells together with the epoxy in-between. This formed the epoxy to be a perfect fit. Also--I was easily able to get the two shells aligned perfectly, and so that the interior is aligned correctly. 

More to come on this as I progress.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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    November, 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Monday, July 09, 2018 7:22 AM

Great to see you moving forward again on this Bakster!!! 

 

Sorry, wouldn't have opinionated on a quick, cheap, and dirty approach except that I really didn't want to see you trash an expensive kit like this. Embarrassed

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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    July, 2014
Posted by Bakster on Monday, July 09, 2018 9:38 AM

Gamera
Great to see you moving forward again on this Bakster!!! 

Thanks Gamera. I appreciate the encouragement. I can certainly use it. This model is a struggle. I don't think I have ever been so frustrated trying to fit two stinking parts together as I am with fitting these upper and lower clamshells. The fit is horrid, and the two pieces slide around. It has no pocket to sit it. It's been this way from the start, but it is much worse with my attempts to repair the assembly. Somehow, I must  mechanically stabilize the two pieces so that I can build on from there. That is my next goal.

I worked on sanding and shaping the epoxy last night. I started with my grinder to rip the bulk of it off. Then I moved to using a file and sanding stick. Two positives came out of last night. The first is that my vacuum system worked well. The dust was sucked straight into the vac while I grinded. Secondly-- my noted concerns on if the epoxy would hold was put to rest. The answer is that it held very well. I was surprised at how well. 

I did a lot of work with this last night. The larger gaps have been eliminated. The battle isn't won, but I captured some ground. I might have a foothold. 

Gamera
Sorry, wouldn't have opinionated on a quick, cheap, and dirty approach except that I really didn't want to see you trash an expensive kit like this. 

No worries at all. I get it. It was a bad week at work, and that tested my patience for this project. 

 

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    July, 2014
Posted by Bakster on Monday, July 09, 2018 11:41 PM

Greetings. The link below has nothing to do with this build. I am posting this because I think this guy is a hoot. I also think it's a good idea what he is doing, and his finished product is pretty darn good.

Have a good Apes night/day. Enjoy.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pm3_9pXRrig#fauxfullscreen

 

 

  • Member since
    November, 2005
  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Tuesday, July 10, 2018 9:05 PM

Bakster
Have a good Apes night/day. Enjoy.

That was quite the wander through the tube of yous Smile

This was interesting, though, as you mentioned resin water:

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Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, July 10, 2018 9:53 PM

CapnMac82

 

 
Bakster
Have a good Apes night/day. Enjoy.

 

That was quite the wander through the tube of yous Smile

This was interesting, though, as you mentioned resin water:

 

Capn, I am confused. Did my link not work? It was about using expandable foam to make rocks. The link is working when I try it. Did it not work for you?

 

  • Member since
    November, 2005
  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Thursday, July 12, 2018 6:18 PM

Bakster
Did my link not work?

No, it worked quite well.

And, four videos later, YT offered me up the one on waterfalls and resin water.

Something of a íQue Voilá!

I particularly liked how he used an airbrush to blend the bank color into the river color.  The technique to make vines was also cool.

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Posted by Bakster on Friday, July 13, 2018 9:12 PM

CapnMac82

 

 
Bakster
Did my link not work?

 

No, it worked quite well.

And, four videos later, YT offered me up the one on waterfalls and resin water.

Something of a íQue Voilá!

I particularly liked how he used an airbrush to blend the bank color into the river color.  The technique to make vines was also cool.

 

Say Capn, your waterfall video is the most detailed and informative that I have seen. I am bookmarking it. Some of the techniques may be useful to me when I get to making my desert lake water scene. Thanks for sharing that. Thumbs up! Yes

 

  • Member since
    July, 2014
Posted by Bakster on Saturday, July 14, 2018 4:12 PM

Here is a Bakster comic short called, Taylor's Revenge:

 

 

                                                         THE END

 

  • Member since
    July, 2012
  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Saturday, July 14, 2018 7:00 PM

HEY GUY'S !!!

Check out my "John Travolta" Saturday Night Fever move !

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage".

  

 

    

  • Member since
    July, 2012
  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Saturday, July 14, 2018 7:05 PM

So, we have seen the PotA motorcycle....

Now I present.... 

I musta missed the part of the movie where they "Parachuted" into the scene...

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage".

  

 

    

  • Member since
    July, 2014
Posted by Bakster on Saturday, July 14, 2018 10:28 PM

littletimmy

So, we have seen the PotA motorcycle....

Now I present.... 

I musta missed the part of the movie where they "Parachuted" into the scene...

 

Such a detailed noggin on that thing too.

 

  • Member since
    July, 2012
  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Saturday, July 14, 2018 10:33 PM

So I "noticed" that the doll in your cartoon know's my name......

Now I want one LOL !

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage".

  

 

    

  • Member since
    July, 2014
Posted by Bakster on Saturday, July 14, 2018 10:47 PM

littletimmy

So I "noticed" that the doll in your cartoon know's my name......

Now I want one LOL !

 

LOL. Buddy--I got mine a few weeks back for less than $10 each. These were released only a few years ago. When I ordered them there were more available.

I ordered these two charactors off Amazon. I think they work with Ebay because Zaius came from a private holder. Here is a funny part. Not funny funny--just funny. The person that owned and shipped it lives a mere 5 to 6 miles from me. If she had my phone number, I could have picked it up to or from work. I go past her area. What are the odds? In this whole country--it comes from someone near me. It's a sign, man. There is Apes juju going on.

 

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Posted by Bakster on Saturday, July 14, 2018 10:56 PM

PS: My ordering them is Gamera's fault. He was posting all those cool images of Apes toys. It got me thinking to find some. 

Thanks Gamera! Yes

 

  • Member since
    July, 2012
  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Saturday, July 14, 2018 11:07 PM

Bakster
It's a sign, man. There is Apes juju going on.

Defenitly ! 

I forgot to tell you, on my last visit to Hobby Lobby I picked up some scenery stuff. I decided to conduct an "Experiment" with water effect's . The video Capn Mac 82 posted just came along at the perfect time. ( Ape JuJu )

Edit: I just discovered the Nannybot will not let me say   m o j o .

I got several tinting base bottle's and multiple Green and Yellow silt undercoat bottle's. I'm going to "attempt" to do something very similar to the dio base your going to do for the Icreus.    ( Were 7 page's into this and I still can't spell Icrus...)

 It's been several (20+ year's ) since I have done a water diorama, so it may be a total disaster.... But I'm willing to share my "EPIC FAILURE" with you ( so you will know what not to try. )

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage".

  

 

    

  • Member since
    July, 2014
Posted by Bakster on Saturday, July 14, 2018 11:16 PM

littletimmy
I forgot to tell you, on my last visit to Hobby Lobby I picked up some scenery stuff. I decided to conduct an "Experiment" with water effect's . The video Capn Mac 82 posted just came along at the perfect time.

Buddy! That's awesome! That should be cool. Are you doing just a scenery thing? Or are you adding a model to it? Let us know how it goes... Good or bad we all learn from it.

Too funny how we all bounce off each others ideas. Inspiration comes from all over the place. Once again--a good reason to do W.I.P.s

 

  • Member since
    July, 2012
  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Saturday, July 14, 2018 11:24 PM

Bakster
Are you doing just a scenery thing? Or are you adding a model to it?

Havent decided on that yet. More than likely it will just be a water dio. That way if it does turn out ok, I can "Incorporate " it into the train layout ..... ( whenever I get around to that life sucking, rest of my life wasted project.)

Bakster
Too funny how we all bounce off each others ideas. Inspiration comes from all over the place. Once again--a good reason to do W.I.P.s

Had it not been for the picture's of the water landing you posted on page one, I probably wouldnt have bought this stuff.... so this will be "your fault" ...

( Unless it turn's out great.... then I "meant" to do that. )

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage".

  

 

    

  • Member since
    July, 2014
Posted by Bakster on Saturday, July 14, 2018 11:29 PM

littletimmy
Havent decided on that yet. More than likely it will just be a water dio. That way if it does turn out ok, I can "Incorporate " it into the train layout ..... ( whenever I get around to that life sucking, rest of my life wasted project.)

LOL. Oh man. You said it. It is a major time suck.  But hey--cool as all heck.

littletimmy
Had it not been for the picture's of the water landing you posted on page one, I probably wouldnt have bought this stuff.... so this will be "your fault" ... ( Unless it turn's out great.... then I "meant" to do that. )

LOL.  That's fine. I'll take ownership.

Hey--can't wait to see how this goes for you. It will be a fun project.

 

 

  • Member since
    July, 2012
  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Saturday, July 14, 2018 11:34 PM

I will post it in the Diorama forum..... I "Hi-Jack" yours too much as it is.

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage".

  

 

    

  • Member since
    July, 2014
Posted by Bakster on Saturday, July 14, 2018 11:38 PM

littletimmy

I will post it in the Diorama forum..... I "Hi-Jack" yours too much as it is.

 

Okay fine but please post a link here when you start one. Yes

 

  • Member since
    July, 2012
  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Saturday, July 14, 2018 11:43 PM

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage".

  

 

    

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, July 15, 2018 11:58 AM

Nice toupee. I'd call that the dime store variety. 

 

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, July 15, 2018 12:05 PM

Alternate ending:

Coming soon: Bloopers and outtakes. Movie

 

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, July 15, 2018 3:44 PM

So, you don't think that all I do is make comics...

Below: Using epoxy I made these spacers. While still uncured I pressed the two shells together to get a general fit. Then, I added another thin layer and let it cure. Once cured I sanded them to get the correct height. Making these helped with the sliding around.

Below: I added epoxy to fill the gaps.

Below: You can see that the previous slant is fixed. I did a lot of tweaking to get here. What ugly head rears up as a result of all that will remain to be seen.  A few things have cropped up already. Thus far--nothing that can't be dealt with.

There is much more bodywork to do, but at least I have the alignment fixed and some of the major gaps dealt with.

 

 

 

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Posted by Bakster on Monday, July 16, 2018 7:51 PM

Timmy sent me this cool image. It looks like a larger scale build. Did you have more info on this Tim?

 

 

  • Member since
    November, 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Monday, July 16, 2018 8:33 PM

Lol Bakster! Love the action figures and you're making great progress on the Icarus too!!!

 

PS: Not sure why anyone would ever name a ship 'Icarus'!?! After all he flies too close to the sun, melts the wax holding his feathered wings together and then falls in the ocean and drowns. Then again there's been jets, rockets, etc named 'Fireball'- isn't that the same as naming it 'Explosion'???

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

  • Member since
    November, 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Monday, July 16, 2018 8:34 PM

Bakster

Timmy sent me this cool image. It looks like a larger scale build. Did you have more info on this Tim?

 

 

OH WOW!!! Love those!!!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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