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ICARUS/LIBERTY 1 BUILD (Completed 4-18-21)

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    July 2012
  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Wednesday, June 20, 2018 8:04 PM

CapnMac82
Sydney-based indie rock band. 

I have never heard of them. I will look them up. If you go to my profile page ( which another member here did .... to see if I was an "Ax Murderer" ) you will see a list of band's I listen to.

Don't believe I listed The Dead .... I really dont care for most of their music.

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage"

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, June 20, 2018 8:18 PM

 

If all else fails on the wiring front, shomebody over in Ships illuminated a man-o-war by using adhesive-backed copper tape, and used tiny bits of solder to fasten LEDs to same.

Just a thought.

 

 

Yep. That is also an option.

I am also considering using Evergreen u channel to run some wiring back. If you look at the actual movie prop you can see that they did something similar. Timmy posted an image of the interior. It runs front to back on both sides of the cabin ceiling. In the elctronics industry that is called raceway. It is used to cover wiring. There are two dome lights in the ceiling at the front of the cabin, and I want to recreate those. The delema is that the raceway does not connect to those in the prop. I could deviate on that, but not until I exhaust all my options. It's a visual thing. I feel the raceway would take away from it. Another extreme option would be to drill a hole through the roof, cut a channel along the roof for the wiring, then backfill it closed. Similar to how I ran the fiber optics on the fins of the Seaview. It's an extreme measure but one that I know will work.

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  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Wednesday, June 20, 2018 8:34 PM

Gamera
And I love that kitbash with the 1999 Eagle!

If you liked that "What if" , Your gonna love this one...

Gamera
Love that photo of the lower stage attached Timmy, I've never seen that. Interesting how the rest of the spacecraft was supposed to look.

Ther was also the "Interplanitary Drive".

Then there's this rather "fanciful" version used for the second generation of the Icarus.

Then there's this ... sorry ...it's as big as I could get it.

Or this...

But I believe "This one" was what we were Suppose to see in 1968.

 

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage"

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  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Wednesday, June 20, 2018 9:18 PM

Nino
 Tim,  Not to worry, that rear door leads to the Poop deck. 

Ahhhhh..... 

But now there are a  L O T  more question's to be asked..... L O L  !

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage"

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, June 20, 2018 10:08 PM

Cool stuff Tim. Too bad they didn't stick with that design in the drawing. Very cool.

I was just scanning over the beginning of the movie and noticed this. Look at the right side of the ship time clock. It looks like the display collapsed. The Icarus is falling apart. No wonder why they crash landed.

 

Well... It's bedtime for Bonzo...

 

 

 

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    September 2012
Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, June 20, 2018 10:44 PM

Bakster

 

If all else fails on the wiring front, shomebody over in Ships illuminated a man-o-war by using adhesive-backed copper tape, and used tiny bits of solder to fasten LEDs to same.

Just a thought.

Actually I just used a short piece of the same tape over the lead.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Thursday, June 21, 2018 7:45 AM

Timmy: Lol I was wondering if the USS Aperprise might come up! 

Love those rendering, I had no idea anyone had put that much thought into the rest of the ship! 

 

One thing I always wondered though, we don't see much of an industial civilization by the apes and most of the scientists they did have were orangutans. So how on earth did the three chimps get the ship fueled and repaired enough to launch into orbit for 'Escape'???

Bakster: Hmmm, actually with the ship in that bad a shape you might just cover the pinholes in the seats with little paper strips and paint them grey/silver. 

Taylor: 'This my chimpanzee friends is humanities greatest invention- duct tape!!!' 

 

 

 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Plano (Dallas), Texas
Posted by mmthrax on Thursday, June 21, 2018 9:14 AM

Hello Steve,

Just subscribed to this one and I am ready to be amazed yet again.  Should be a good one, and I am sure I will be inspired. 

Looking forward to this. Eats

Just keep picking away at it...

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Thursday, June 21, 2018 10:11 AM

Gamera
Bakster: Hmmm, actually with the ship in that bad a shape you might just cover the pinholes in the seats with little paper strips and paint them grey/silver.  Taylor: 'This my chimpanzee friends is humanities greatest invention- duct tape!!!' 

No kidding! Idea

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Thursday, June 21, 2018 10:12 AM

GMorrison
Actually I just used a short piece of the same tape over the lead.

Noted!

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    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Thursday, June 21, 2018 10:39 AM

mmthrax

Hello Steve,

Just subscribed to this one and I am ready to be amazed yet again.  Should be a good one, and I am sure I will be inspired. 

Looking forward to this. Eats

 

Hey Mark, glad you found this! At the least it should be entertaining!  Wink

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Thursday, June 21, 2018 10:49 AM

Where am I on this:

I expect the seats to be painted by the weekend. Along with that, I hope to get some major progress done with the sanding and fitting of the hull. There will be a lot of work with that.  

I ordered the resin nozzles last night. It looks like they are made to order, and they quote 4 weeks for delivery. The wait is okay. I have a lot of other things to do before I tackle that section. 

I am looking forward to the fabricating. The windows will be the first thing.

I am putting some feelers out guys: I'd like to add instrumentation to the forward cabin. The kit comes with some molded instrumentation relief, but not much of it. And, I am not quite sure what I'd do with it. I want some of it lighted. I was thinking that I could add or convert this stuff to something like touch panels. If I can find instrumentation decals, in scale, I could apply it over clear styrene and then backlight it. Lighted consoles would dress things up nicely. Just spitballing here. If anyone has ideas about this-- please share. No rush. It will be a few months before I need to address this.

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    July 2012
  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Thursday, June 21, 2018 8:54 PM

Gamera
So how on earth did the three chimps get the ship fueled and repaired enough to launch into orbit for 'Escape'???

I have wondered that myself. The following picture is from Escape from the Planet of the Apes.

You will note that there are only 3 seat's. The Icrius has 4, so who "redesigned" the cockpit.  You will also see an overhead console, that wasn't in the cockpit of the original.

 

Speaking of the cockpit, there are not a lot of good pictures of it. It appeares that the instrumentation is "Analog".... no screens of any kind.

I had two more picture's to share ... but my "Rock" decided to take a Qualude !

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage"

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Thursday, June 21, 2018 10:08 PM

littletimmy
Speaking of the cockpit, there are not a lot of good pictures of it. It appeares that the instrumentation is "Analog".... no screens of any kind.

The ships clocks are digital, but they are not screens. And you are right. There are no screens. From what I have seen thus far, most of the dash is comprised of digital readouts, a few analog reel to reel recording devices, two gooseneck microphones, maybe some switches and lights. If I'd be striving for complete accuracy, I'd have to strip out entirely what MIM created. The instrumentation that they molded is not accurate at all. They created a representation of the ship. If I want to replicate the ships readouts... how would I do it in a way that it doesnt look like garbage. I'd have to make tiny custom decals I guess. If anyone knows how I can do that... I am all ears. If not, I'll have to do what MIM did, and make a loosley based representation. How far do I want to take this? 

 

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  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Thursday, June 21, 2018 10:26 PM

Bakster
The instrumentation that they molded is not accurate at all. They created a representation of the ship.

I just took a close-up look at your picture of the kit's cockpit. It's not even close. Wow !

Anything you come up with will be an improvement !

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage"

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Thursday, June 21, 2018 10:47 PM

littletimmy

 

 
Bakster
The instrumentation that they molded is not accurate at all. They created a representation of the ship.

 

I just took a close-up look at your picture of the kit's cockpit. It's not even close. Wow !

Anything you come up with will be an improvement !

 

Thats what I think too.

On a side note.  You are finding some cool images, many that I have not seen. Kudos for digging these photos up.

Lastly. The chairs are painted with a fresh coat of black paint. Once that dries, I will mask and detail the metal parts with probably alclad silver aluminum. 

My Badger 200 was giving me problems tonight. Plugged. I gave it a good cleaning and hopefully it stops being a pain in the "beep." I should just switch back to my Anthem. I have less problem with that one.

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    August 2007
  • From: back country of SO-CAL, at the birth place of Naval Aviation
Posted by DUSTER on Friday, June 22, 2018 1:01 AM

  I was having my banana. Then I found this build and all its attendant monkeying around. So, I thought; this looks like a project I should swing by and study more. 

Congratulations on the work to date, it “apes” the movie ship pretty dang well.  Lookin’ forward to the next instalment.

                                               

 

 

 

Steve

Building the perfect model---just not quite yet  Confused

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Friday, June 22, 2018 7:33 AM

Wow! Been forever since I've seen any of the movies and I didn't pay that much attention to the interior of the spacecraft. Guess they figured in the years between the movies we'd have forgotten what everything looked like! 

Good luck with the interior Bakster, I think I'd just go with the general generic '60s futuristic look you were talking about. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Friday, June 22, 2018 9:29 AM

Gamera
I think I'd just go with the general generic '60s futuristic look you were talking about. 

Sounds right. Put some brightly colored MonkeyShines to bedazzle and bewilder any intruding apes. And maybe hang a pine tree air-freshener to the rearview mirror too. That rotting corpse is gonna be ripe. What more do you need? Clown

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    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Friday, June 22, 2018 9:46 AM

DUSTER

  I was having my banana. Then I found this build and all its attendant monkeying around. So, I thought; this looks like a project I should swing by and study more. 

Congratulations on the work to date, it “apes” the movie ship pretty dang well.  Lookin’ forward to the next instalment.

 

                                                

 

 

 

 

Lol. Hey Duster--thanks for stopping by! It is always nice to hear from another fellow ape. Keep eating them bananas. Good for the heart, or that's what they say. Love the animation. Big Smile I look forward to you swinging around.

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Friday, June 22, 2018 11:28 AM

You know you could always have Cornelius jumping the Icarus with his bike:

 

'Boss, Evel Kneval isn't as popular as he used to be. What should we do with all these toy motorcycles???'

'These Apes movies are popular. Just buy the rights and get someone to make a monkey and stick it on the bike, do I have to think of everything!?!'

 

I'm surprised that we didn't see Luke Skywalker on that bike next.....  

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Friday, June 22, 2018 11:55 AM

Gamera
You know you could always have Cornelius jumping the Icarus with his bike:

What a visual I get with that. This is hilarious. Lol. 

It seems that Bakster is not the only person that had ape fever. There must have been a market for this. What a hoot.

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    July 2012
  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Friday, June 22, 2018 7:11 PM

Gamera
'These Apes movies are popular. Just buy the rights and get someone to make a monkey and stick it on the bike, do I have to think of everything!?!'

 I was a poor "farmboy" in 1973 , so I couldn't afford all the toy's I wanted. But my friend's and I could "Pool" our toy's and together we could "Act out" what we saw on TV .

My neighbor Greg had this 

I had these...

I didnt have all 6. I had 4 ( two of them were the same) but I don't remember which one's I had ( They all suffered the same "Black Cat" explosive demise.)

If only I Had N O T been allowed to buy fireworks ..... I also breifly watched the TV series and just had to have this.

I didnt have it very long..... A much LARGER Planet of the Apes fan beat me up and took it !  My parent's then bought me a "Raggedy Ann and  Andy" lunch box to replace it...... Then I "REALLY" got beat up !

 

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage"

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Friday, June 22, 2018 8:17 PM

Hmmm, displays . . .

How about some "creative retro"--add screens, but CRT ones of aproximately IBM-AT vintage?

Series of, to scale, oh, 10" x 7" rectangles.  Shoot some clear yellow onto decal film, then print some black "screens" with white "characters" (bloboids, more like).

Put the yellow film down on clear material, overlay wit hthe black screens, and, voila, amber-on-black CRT displays.  Plain white led behind to light them up.

You might also check the aiation p/e market for square (or round) etched bezels.

Or not.  Your choice.

Say, does this seem huge after having put so much effort into a 1/350 Seaview?

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    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Friday, June 22, 2018 9:37 PM

Hey Tim, cool stuff. Seems to me that tonight you are coming out of the POTAs closet. Welcome. Admitting it is always the most difficult step. Lol.

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  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Friday, June 22, 2018 9:57 PM

Bakster
Seems to me that tonight you are coming out of the POTAs closet

And "diving" right back into the "Star Trek" closet ! L O L 

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage"

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Friday, June 22, 2018 10:06 PM

Capn, I see that you have your thinking cap on. Remember how teachers used to say that? Now Kids... I need you to put your thinking caps on. I did have mine on. Mine was thinking about POTAs.

Those are not bad ideas. I will give that some serious thought. Way to think out of the box, Capn. That's good stuff.

Does this seem so huge after the Seaview? No it does't. I just think that trying to make the console exactly like the prop would in the end be... unrewarding. From what I have seen, the console consists mainly of digital readouts like the clock image I posted. It would take a ton of time to fabricate all those with little visual return. It just does not seem worth it to me. Not to worry though. With the things I have planned there will be plenty of fun details requiring exorbitant amounts of time, and the clunking of my noggin against the wall.

Thanks for the input!

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Friday, June 22, 2018 10:08 PM

Oh man. Who can ever forget Star Trek.

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  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Friday, June 22, 2018 10:25 PM

Bakster
. From what I have seen, the console consists mainly of digital readouts like the clock image I posted

But wait ......

I "Dare you" to do this...

Thats right fans , Talyer was a collector of Vinyl.

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage"

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Friday, June 22, 2018 10:42 PM

littletimmy

 

 
Bakster
. From what I have seen, the console consists mainly of digital readouts like the clock image I posted

 

But wait ......

I "Dare you" to do this...

Thats right fans , Talyer was a collector of Vinyl.

 

 Are you going to make me look and see if that was really in the movie? Have you forgotten what the Lawgiver said in the fifth scroll? Yeah so have I. But it must have been pretty good.

At first I thought you were daring me to smoke a cigar. The last time I smoked a cigar I turned green. Or so people told me. I maintain that it was all the JD that I drank. Maybe it was both.

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