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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, September 15, 2020 4:02 PM

Hey Greg--thanks.  You know... I like them too. This thing can be tough to image and for some reason they seem to pop. I guess the stars lined up for me. 

Btw. I did a little more searching and it turns out that larger slide mount covers are made, and available. I'd need to do a little more research regarding size, cost, and if I'd be able to cut them. I think that they are glass. They are very thin. Maybe if I would score them with a hobby knife and then snap em. The clarity is night and day difference. 

Somebody stop me!  Idea

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Thursday, September 17, 2020 11:44 AM

Greg
Those new camera POV's in the last post are cool.

And there are hints of even more options in photography in the near future.

There's word that there are cameras that will get small enough, with RF transmitters equally small enough, to provide "cab ride" views from running HO locomotives.  That, the controls would be able to have a small screen so you could actually "ride along."

Really cool for the model railroaders, but just imagine what it would be like to beable to show cockpit views from the inside.

Which means we will also have some incredible options for photographing models, too.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Friday, September 18, 2020 12:11 PM

CapnMac82

 

 
Greg
Those new camera POV's in the last post are cool.

 

And there are hints of even more options in photography in the near future.

There's word that there are cameras that will get small enough, with RF transmitters equally small enough, to provide "cab ride" views from running HO locomotives.  That, the controls would be able to have a small screen so you could actually "ride along."

Really cool for the model railroaders, but just imagine what it would be like to beable to show cockpit views from the inside.

Which means we will also have some incredible options for photographing models, too.

 

How cool would that be? A virtual train ride. I like it.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Friday, September 18, 2020 12:36 PM

Bakster
Somebody stop me!  

Well? Nobody stopped me. So, into another rabbit hole I be going. Woosh!

For the price of a cheap dinner I ordered slide covers. If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 88mph, you,re gonna see some serious s***.  

Sorry... wrong movie. If my calculations are correct, they ought just fit. Cutting them will be the big ?. If I can cut them, it should improve the look without adding too much more work to this. More to come.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Monday, September 21, 2020 8:37 PM

Here is an example of what Capn and I are talking about. Aside from residual dust, the cover slip is nicely scaled, it is extremely clear, and it is free of distortion.

Evergreen plastic on the other hand. It visually distorts, it scratches easily, and when viewed at angles an already opaque look becomes more so. And when I say it scratches easily--I mean it. You must handle it as little as possible. Some of the scratches seen in the example are caused by my wiping it with microfiber. Finger oils seem to affect its clarity, as well. I think it is the cleaning of them that does the most damage.

The difference is, "clear." Geeked

Is it a big deal? Probably not. But why not construct something as good as you can.

 

So... the cover slips are large enough for what I need. I experimented on cutting them and the only way that works for me is by using a diamond encrusted needle file. By placing a metal ruler over the glass as a guide--I etch a groove into the glass until the two sides separate. It is delicate work, but not too terrible. I have worked on worse.

More to come.

 

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Wednesday, September 23, 2020 6:07 PM

Diamond needle file is an excellent idea.  One that would not have been available not so very long ago.

Definitely a case when things of the past are influenced by those of the future.

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  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Wednesday, September 23, 2020 6:44 PM

I was going to say "i'm not stopping you". But I was too slow.

CapnMac82
Really cool for the model railroaders, but just imagine what it would be like to beable to show cockpit views from the inside.

Not only that, but if those little astronuts were getting out of bed and running around while you sleep, like in some movies and stuff, you'd catch them red-handed!

The glass slides are very clear. That said, just want to make sure you are familiar with the Novus polishing system. I don't know if they make the plastic sheet better or not, and I'm not saying you could ever make them look as good as the slides. Maybe a fallback position.

-Greg

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Thursday, September 24, 2020 12:23 AM

CapnMac82

Diamond needle file is an excellent idea.  One that would not have been available not so very long ago.

Definitely a case when things of the past are influenced by those of the future.

 

Capn...I don't think I could do this without them. I tried standard files and even a glass cutter, all to no effect. The diamond files cut into glass nicely. 

Funny thing. I purchased the file set on a whim over a year ago. I figured, I may need that someday.

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Thursday, September 24, 2020 12:53 AM

Greg

I was going to say "i'm not stopping you". But I was too slow.

 

 
CapnMac82
Really cool for the model railroaders, but just imagine what it would be like to beable to show cockpit views from the inside.

 

Not only that, but if those little astronuts were getting out of bed and running around while you sleep, like in some movies and stuff, you'd catch them red-handed!

The glass slides are very clear. That said, just want to make sure you are familiar with the Novus polishing system. I don't know if they make the plastic sheet better or not, and I'm not saying you could ever make them look as good as the slides. Maybe a fallback position.

 

Good point about catching them red handed. Lol. 

Thanks for being slow, Greg. Surprise

Something tells me Novus will not help much. When looked at closely you can see the plastic has built in inclusions. I think this contributes to the fogginess. The stuff is crude. It is more like clear film carrier, verses a solid piece of plastic.

Well, I made two new frames tonight. I have two more to go. I had forgotten how difficult it is to make these. The upside is that I won't be redoing the fancy mechanicals to hold the glass in place. Since I am working with glass now, I can safely use CA to secure them. I'd really like to get these done by over the weekend. I should get close to that goal.

 

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  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Thursday, September 24, 2020 8:24 AM

So long as you are familiar with Novus in general, my work today is complete and I shall stop worrying. I get the picture re the plastic now.

BTW, about those diamond files, I picked up a cheap set of miniature diamond files at Harbor Freight several years back too. Great purchase.

I'm not a fan of cheap tools generally, but Harbor Freight is an enigma to me. They have boatloads of cheap junk, yet it is a blast to wander the aisles and darned near impossible to leave empty-handed!

I remind myself of Steve Martin in the Jerk in there. "I'm not going to buy anything, I don't need anything, not a thing ......I need this wrench set...."

-Greg

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Thursday, September 24, 2020 10:00 AM

Greg
So long as you are familiar with Novus in general, my work today is complete and I shall stop worrying. I get the picture re the plastic now.

Obi-Wan-- you have taught me well. Novus will not incur Evergreen Plastic Star System.

 

Greg
BTW, about those diamond files, I picked up a cheap set of miniature diamond files at Harbor Freight several years back too. Great purchase.

Yeah I think I got mine at a local hobby shop. They were not all that expensive. 

Greg
I remind myself of Steve Martin in the Jerk in there. "I'm not going to buy anything, I don't need anything, not a thing ......I need this wrench set...."

But are you somebody? Is your name in the phonebook? Wink

 

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Thursday, September 24, 2020 10:49 AM

It sounds cool, I'm looking forward to photos of how things are going Bakster! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, September 27, 2020 6:35 PM

Gamera

It sounds cool, I'm looking forward to photos of how things are going Bakster! 

 

 

Here you go Gam, more photos.

Hallelujah--the office is done! I will say this though. My latest rabbit hole was quite the test. 

Even though I worked out a means to cut the glass--it didn't mean it would work well. And let me tell ya...it was a struggle. This glass is fragile. I scrapped a few by the mere act of scribing because in that process they can fracture. If I made it through scribing--then good luck with detaching. Often, I didn't get a clean break, or the piece would break in the wrong place. Like with everything though--there is a process to figure out, and I eventually did.

Below: I found out that I didn't need to scribe as deep if I did what is shown below.

Using the ruler as a fence, I'd press on the end and it would snap off nicely. The fence removed some of the stresses and it worked like a charm. Throughput increased dramaticlly. 

Below: New frames and new glass. Btw. I had just barely enough paint leftover to paint these. This color was a custom mix and I was glad I didn't have to replicate it. I don't like replicants! Make note of that, Gam. No replicants.  Stick out tongue

I carefully applied small amounts of CA around the edges of the glass. It was precarious because too much CA could cause wicking--slopping up the job. That would defeat the purpose of all this hard work.

I didn't think I would get them installed today because of all the other work I did, but I went for it. It is always a risky thing for me to do... delicate work paired with fatigue. A few near disasters but I made it through. I used 5-minute epoxy to attach them. 

Notice the crack in Stewarts glass. I etched it using the diamond file. It worked fantastic for that.  

And that is that. I suppose I could add other things to this but-- stick a fork in me--I am done. Nothing more would be seen anyhow.

From here I will turn my attention to the outer hull. I have some cleanup work and I want to do that before permanently installing the office.

End of update.

 

 

 

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, September 27, 2020 6:39 PM

Btw.  Somebody please explain to me why I started this dang project. It seems like ages ago. Sleep

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  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Sunday, September 27, 2020 7:24 PM

That ended up so cool it pretty much leaves me speechless, which as you (and those who know me) is darned near a miracle.

I haven't a clue why you started it, but continue to be glad you did. You are not only doing a knockout job, but good job on the stick-to-it-ive-ness, too.

-Greg

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, September 27, 2020 10:41 PM

Greg

That ended up so cool it pretty much leaves me speechless, which as you (and those who know me) is darned near a miracle.

I haven't a clue why you started it, but continue to be glad you did. You are not only doing a knockout job, but good job on the stick-to-it-ive-ness, too.

 

Hey Greg, thank you sir. That is quite an endorsement!

I tell ya. The glass made a bigger difference than I imagined it would. Unless there is a reflection, you can't even see it's there. The clarity is amazing and when compared to the plastic counterpart, it is night and day difference. With the plastic it was difficult to see the figures in their chamber. The glass changed all that. For such a big focal point of the build, it was worth the effort. Now, if I only could have used real glass for the front windows. Lol.

 

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Thursday, October 1, 2020 7:48 PM

Bakster
I don't like replicants!

last thing the apes need is replicants.  Or agruments about the blending of the Blade Runner Universe into the Xenomorph universe o_O

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Thursday, October 1, 2020 7:49 PM

Bakster
explain to me why I started this dang project.

Becasue it was cool.

And easier than a donkey ride through the Forbidden Zone.

 

Oh, and Marooned was on TCM this afternoon--still a great movie wit ha first rate cast.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Saturday, October 3, 2020 2:00 PM

CapnMac82
CapnMac82 wrote the following post yesterday: Bakster explain to me why I started this dang project. Becasue it was cool.

Hey Capn-- you hit the nail on the head. Thanks for reminding me!

 

CapnMac82
Oh, and Marooned was on TCM this afternoon--still a great movie wit ha first rate cast. Add Quote to your Post

I watched that too. And yes--they had a major cast of people!

 

 

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, October 6, 2020 12:03 PM

Cause you could have went to 'Planet of the Llamas' but it's just too horrible... 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 10:31 AM

Gamera

Cause you could have went to 'Planet of the Llamas' but it's just too horrible... 

 

That's a hoot, Gam.  It is a horrible prospect indeed... and such a nice mug on that face too!

Hey! Build progress has all but stopped, for various reasons. I am in various life battles but one I did not expect is that the Icarus inadvertently landed on, Planet Moth! 

 

A Bakster Short

I'd say it was around June that I began noticing clouds of moths fluttering around a bush near my downstairs window. I thought to myself, "Self--I don't think I have ever seen that many moths out there."

I shrugged it off as one of them things. Well, in the days ahead I noticed little gray moths in my house. I have seen them before, but they always die off. I didn't give it another thought. Days turn to weeks and I am seeing them now in bigger numbers, and in every room of the house. This is no longer a mere sideline spectacle--this has turned into an all-out assault.

I did some research, and I came to the terrible conclusion that I am in the midst of a Pantry Moth infestation. The more I read--the more alarmed I am that this is no joke. They can be hard to get rid of and they can contaminate most of your food. They are capable of burrowing through plastic and paper, then nest. They are insidious. Some people go years without getting them wiped out. It wasn't long when I was killing dozens by the day.

The tide began to turn when I purchased some moth traps. I had my doubts about em but the minute I set one on top of my entertainment center--2 moths came fluttering from nowhere. They were in an extreme excitement. Little did they know--the traps emit pheromone, and they think it's time to mate! The males fly in and they quickly get stuck on the sticky carboard. Too bad for them -- you pesky vermin.

Now that the females are being deprived of their mates--their egg laying days are over. Most any of the moths that I see now must be females because the traps do nothing to attract them. So with those--it is assured destruction via smoosh. The traps catch a few more males here and there. Yesterday, had seen a big escalation on the cusp of a slowdown just days before. That will happen as previously fertilized eggs hatch. This may go on for weeks. The good news is--I have not seen one since I got up this morning, and that is unusual. I'd always find some on the walls in the AM because they come out mostly during the night.

Why am I telling you this? Because Planet Moth is not a cool place to be. If you see these critters in your house--get traps--get them early, and do you research. Check your food. Btw. They love bird seed, pet food, flower, meal, and rice. Some of these articles can be brought home from the store already infested. If stored indoors, all should be in tightly sealed containers. If you see moths in the store... go to another store because they may have eggs already dropped on or in them.

I had an open bag of birdseed in my house and that was more than likely the source of the infestation, or the food source. Most seed come already infected, and it should never be stored in the house. I still think one or more came in from outside too. 

Once I can get the moths out of the Icarus--I may get to building again.

This has been a public service message beamed subspace from Planet Moth, via Icarus.

 

Or maybe you like moths, then just ignore this commentary. Yes

 

 

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Posted by falconmod on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 10:46 AM

Bakster,

   Since your in WI that wonderful 1st hard frost will be here soon!  my favorite thing is when all those little blood suckers die off and I can go outside without getting my blood sucked out.   DIE Mosquitoes!

John 

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 11:18 AM

Ack! Good luck with your infestation Bakster. I wonder if as John pointed out they're all trying to get inside before it gets too cold for them. 

Thankfully I've not had much of a problem with moths, probably because of all the spiders in the house that eat them. 

Though I've never had a horde of them or even just one really big one yet...

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 11:19 AM

falconmod

Bakster,

   Since your in WI that wonderful 1st hard frost will be here soon!  my favorite thing is when all those little blood suckers die off and I can go outside without getting my blood sucked out.   DIE Mosquitoes!

John 

 

Hey John, amen to that. The cold weather helps to knock down moth infestations too. Or at unleast, until spring. Lol.

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 11:23 AM

And hope you don't have to face an infestation of flying turtles...

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by falconmod on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 11:25 AM

Bakster

 

 
falconmod

Bakster,

   Since your in WI that wonderful 1st hard frost will be here soon!  my favorite thing is when all those little blood suckers die off and I can go outside without getting my blood sucked out.   DIE Mosquitoes!

John 

 

 

 

Hey John, amen to that. The cold weather helps to knock down moth infestations too. Or at unleast, until spring. Lol.

 

When it happens I'll go out out and do the dead mosquito dance in celebration.  The big ones you can kill with a bat,  it's the little ones that are the worst.  And we won't talk about June bugs, chinese beatles or boxelder bugs cuz they die too!   Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!

John

On the Bench: 1/72 Ki-67, 1/48 T-38

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 11:33 AM

Gamera

Ack! Good luck with your infestation Bakster. I wonder if as John pointed out they're all trying to get inside before it gets too cold for them. 

Thankfully I've not had much of a problem with moths, probably because of all the spiders in the house that eat them. 

Though I've never had a horde of them or even just one really big one yet...

 

Yeah I was lucky too, for a long time. Then this year it was an all out assault. Fortunately, my food seems ok. There is no evidence of larvae tampering. I think the bag of bird seed kept their attention, and thank goodness for that. The grossest part of this is seeing their crawling larvae. They are like thin maggots. People report seeing them hanging from ceilings. I didn't see that but I did see them crawling along the walls. I found some under shoes nestled in the treads.  It is gross stuff!

I just went downstairs again, the cat was bugging me for a treat. Still no new moths. I may be winning the battle. Or maybe, you wont hear from me again because I was captured and put into a cocoon as food.  Huh?

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 11:35 AM

falconmod
When it happens I'll go out out and do the dead mosquito dance in celebration.  The big ones you can kill with a bat,  it's the little ones that are the worst.  And we won't talk about June bugs, chinese beatles or boxelder bugs cuz they die too!   Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha! John

Right! Lol!

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Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 11:37 AM

Gamera

And hope you don't have to face an infestation of flying turtles...

 

omg. Get me a baseball bat. Lol!

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Posted by falconmod on Wednesday, October 7, 2020 11:41 AM

Bakster

 

 
Gamera

And hope you don't have to face an infestation of flying turtles...

 

 

 

omg. Get me a baseball bat. Lol!

 

Or some Ninja Turtle pizza to throw at it.  they liked pizza right. Confused

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