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Little wood Flattie build

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, April 13, 2015 10:48 AM

Can't have enough brass wire.

I find best way to make a ring is to wind a "spring"  around a small dowel. Chop out pieces about 1 1/2 twists each. Then cut both ends at once, and bend flat. You'll get 4 or 5 good ones out of say 8 twists

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  • From: Wyoming Michigan
Posted by ejhammer on Monday, April 13, 2015 7:32 PM

While waiting for my 3mm blocks to arrive, I went shopping at Michal's and Hobby Lobby looking for wire. There is an amazing amount of wire in the beading department.

Sizing wire - well it makes my 73 year old head spin. I still think in inches. Wire and rod are designated in fractional inches, decimal inches (my machinist's thinking), wire gauge and millimeters depending on the product and the manufacturer. I made a spreadsheet for wire from 12 g (gauge) to 32 g so I can get a mental feel for the sizes.

I found some 28 g, (.37mm), 24g (.49mm), 20g (.80mm) and 18g (1.01mm) copper wire in the workshop, most of it I stripped from stranded type building wire scraps or electronic wiring. Also, some 26 g (.40mm) in black, copper and antique brass,  and 24g ((.50mm) in antique brass that was in the model room junk that I picked up somewhere. Not sure what they are made of but seem soft enough. I also have some brass rods, 1.57mm, 1.2mm,  .81mm, .51mm. The rod is more of a hard brass than soft.

You'd think that would do me right? Guess I must be fussy, cause I really decided on 22 g wire size for what I wanted and had none.

Well, I found some stuff called Parawire. A soft copper wire with a "permanently colored non-tarnish" coating. Comes in several gauges from 16g to 28g and different colors, so I got a roll of "Natural Brass", a kinda antiqued brass color. Wanted truly brass color too but they were out of that. Really nice stuff and works great for wrapping. I'll still use stiffer brass rod to make the rings and eyes from, as that holds it's shape better.

They had ready made rings, but only down to 4mm. 3mm rings were only in silver color so I passed on that.

Meantime, I'm practicing ring making from some .81mm brass rod.

Gosh, I'm thinking in mm now!

EJ

Completed - 1/525 Round Two Lindberg repop of T2A tanker done as USS MATTAPONI, USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa Dec 1942, USS Yorktown 1/700 Trumpeter 1943. In The Yards - USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa 1945, USS ESSEX 1/700 Dragon 1944, USS ESSEX 1/700 Trumpeter 1945, USS ESSEX 1/540 Revell (vintage) 1962, USS ESSEX 1/350 Trumpeter 1942, USS ESSEX LHD-2 as commissioned, converted from USS Wasp kit Gallery Models. Plus 35 other plastic and wood ship kits.

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  • From: Wyoming Michigan
Posted by ejhammer on Friday, May 1, 2015 3:23 PM

Got sidetracked from the build for a bit. Started mentoring middle school kids at my grandson's school for the science Olympiad competition. I would be coaching the bridge building competition. I has 5 teams of two students. In the beginning, our bridges were scoring in the 650 to 750 range, but we found out we needed to be in the 1800 or better range to be competitive.
Here are some of the bridges -







We built and tested about 50 bridges. The first local competition, we took 7 place out of 54 bridges with a ribbon. The second competition, a regional, we placed 12 out of 42 bridges, with no ribbon, but overall, the school took a 3rd place medal.
We changed our design parameters, and have tested them to a score of over 2000, with some weight to go. The scores are based on the weight of the load to a max of 15 KG, divided by the weight of the bridge. Our entry will weigh in at 6.9 Grams and if it takes the full 15 KG without breaking will give us a score of 2174. It is the last picture. Quite an improvement.
The kids are at Michigan State University today at the state competition - I can't wait to see how they did. I'm very proud of their accomplishments and dedication.
I have finally cleaned up my bench and am getting back in the "Flattie build" mode, so more of that to follow.
EJ

Completed - 1/525 Round Two Lindberg repop of T2A tanker done as USS MATTAPONI, USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa Dec 1942, USS Yorktown 1/700 Trumpeter 1943. In The Yards - USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa 1945, USS ESSEX 1/700 Dragon 1944, USS ESSEX 1/700 Trumpeter 1945, USS ESSEX 1/540 Revell (vintage) 1962, USS ESSEX 1/350 Trumpeter 1942, USS ESSEX LHD-2 as commissioned, converted from USS Wasp kit Gallery Models. Plus 35 other plastic and wood ship kits.

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Posted by GMorrison on Saturday, May 2, 2015 12:28 AM

Bow string truss wins more races. Nice project and great that you are giving them coaching.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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  • From: Wyoming Michigan
Posted by ejhammer on Wednesday, May 20, 2015 7:35 PM

in error

Completed - 1/525 Round Two Lindberg repop of T2A tanker done as USS MATTAPONI, USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa Dec 1942, USS Yorktown 1/700 Trumpeter 1943. In The Yards - USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa 1945, USS ESSEX 1/700 Dragon 1944, USS ESSEX 1/700 Trumpeter 1945, USS ESSEX 1/540 Revell (vintage) 1962, USS ESSEX 1/350 Trumpeter 1942, USS ESSEX LHD-2 as commissioned, converted from USS Wasp kit Gallery Models. Plus 35 other plastic and wood ship kits.

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  • From: Wyoming Michigan
Posted by ejhammer on Wednesday, May 20, 2015 7:36 PM

Completed - 1/525 Round Two Lindberg repop of T2A tanker done as USS MATTAPONI, USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa Dec 1942, USS Yorktown 1/700 Trumpeter 1943. In The Yards - USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa 1945, USS ESSEX 1/700 Dragon 1944, USS ESSEX 1/700 Trumpeter 1945, USS ESSEX 1/540 Revell (vintage) 1962, USS ESSEX 1/350 Trumpeter 1942, USS ESSEX LHD-2 as commissioned, converted from USS Wasp kit Gallery Models. Plus 35 other plastic and wood ship kits.

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Posted by tankerbuilder on Wednesday, May 27, 2015 10:29 PM

AWW ;

Darn it now E.J. Just for that I will have to dig out the Whitehall . I think that is without a doubt the most beautiful rowing boat I've ever seen .  T.B.      P.S. I like the way you treated the pintle and gudgeon application on the boat .

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, May 28, 2015 12:39 AM

Traveler done just right.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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  • From: Wyoming Michigan
Posted by ejhammer on Thursday, May 28, 2015 8:21 AM

Thanks guys.

Got sidetracked for a bit. Will get back to it this weekend.

Gonna try the epoxy trick to mount the block eyes to the oversized holes in the mast and spars, then will set the mast, also in epoxy cause it will give me time to get the thing where I want it. Then set the spars and rigging.

Not sure about the rigging. The kit stuff is kinda off, plus I don't know what size cordage would have been used on this boat. I'd like to get some of the Syren stuff cause I like the look of it. Just have to decide on the diameters to use.

I'm working it up in my head how to make it into a "working" boat. Maybe a bit of grunge, some rope coils around, a pile of netting, a wood crate. Any ideas out there?

EJ

Completed - 1/525 Round Two Lindberg repop of T2A tanker done as USS MATTAPONI, USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa Dec 1942, USS Yorktown 1/700 Trumpeter 1943. In The Yards - USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa 1945, USS ESSEX 1/700 Dragon 1944, USS ESSEX 1/700 Trumpeter 1945, USS ESSEX 1/540 Revell (vintage) 1962, USS ESSEX 1/350 Trumpeter 1942, USS ESSEX LHD-2 as commissioned, converted from USS Wasp kit Gallery Models. Plus 35 other plastic and wood ship kits.

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  • From: Spartanburg, SC
Posted by subfixer on Thursday, May 28, 2015 10:59 AM

Boats get dirty, working boats get really dirty, especially in the sections where work is being performed. Don't be afraid t apply a heavy wash to flow into the corners and seams.

I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

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Posted by tankerbuilder on Thursday, May 28, 2015 12:52 PM

E.J.

Now see ! You did just what I always talk about . There's always something out there Not from Micro - Mark or Squadron that will work for modelers ! Right on !  By the way , I like the bridges !  T.B.

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  • From: Wyoming Michigan
Posted by ejhammer on Thursday, October 1, 2015 1:07 PM

 

WOW, it’s been April since my last post. Summer, heart problems, a bit of travel, illness, man did the time fly. Feeling better now and gonna try to get caught up.

Finished up the flattie back in May, so here goes.

Some rigging stuff

The finished boat

This was a fun build. Had to get some schooling on rigging, and the history of east coast working boats was interesting as well. 

On to another project.

EJ

 

 

 

 

 

Completed - 1/525 Round Two Lindberg repop of T2A tanker done as USS MATTAPONI, USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa Dec 1942, USS Yorktown 1/700 Trumpeter 1943. In The Yards - USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa 1945, USS ESSEX 1/700 Dragon 1944, USS ESSEX 1/700 Trumpeter 1945, USS ESSEX 1/540 Revell (vintage) 1962, USS ESSEX 1/350 Trumpeter 1942, USS ESSEX LHD-2 as commissioned, converted from USS Wasp kit Gallery Models. Plus 35 other plastic and wood ship kits.

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  • From: Cavite, Philippines
Posted by allan on Thursday, October 1, 2015 8:54 PM

I love it!  Always impressed by builds like this. 

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  • From: Wyoming Michigan
Posted by ejhammer on Friday, October 2, 2015 9:28 AM

Thank Allen

 

EJ

Completed - 1/525 Round Two Lindberg repop of T2A tanker done as USS MATTAPONI, USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa Dec 1942, USS Yorktown 1/700 Trumpeter 1943. In The Yards - USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa 1945, USS ESSEX 1/700 Dragon 1944, USS ESSEX 1/700 Trumpeter 1945, USS ESSEX 1/540 Revell (vintage) 1962, USS ESSEX 1/350 Trumpeter 1942, USS ESSEX LHD-2 as commissioned, converted from USS Wasp kit Gallery Models. Plus 35 other plastic and wood ship kits.

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  • From: Greenville, NC
Posted by jtilley on Friday, October 2, 2015 11:44 AM

Fine model. I hope it teaches a lesson to lots of people: large-scale models of small vessels can be very impressive, and the Midwest kits are excellent.

If you want to get into wood ship modeling, a Midwest kit is a great place to start. Much better than a Constitution, Cutty Sark, or Victory.

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

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  • From: Salem, Oregon
Posted by 1943Mike on Friday, October 2, 2015 11:55 AM

I really like how you've done the rigging ropes. You seem to have worked them into a very believable representation of the real thing at this scale. Your whole model seems very well done and is a pleasure to view.

Mike

Mike

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  • From: brisbane australia
Posted by surfsup on Saturday, October 3, 2015 5:15 AM

I am very impressed with your work on this one. love it.....Ceers Mark

If i was your wife, i'd poison your tea! If Iwas your husband, I would drink it! WINSTON CHURCHILL

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  • From: Wyoming Michigan
Posted by ejhammer on Saturday, October 3, 2015 9:36 AM

Thanks guys.

Did the float test. In the kitchen sink she sat well. Pretty little thing. Took her out to the birdbath and plopped her in. It was kinda breezy so I had to chase her around a bit. She sailed really nice even without sails.























I'm pleased. :) :)

EJ

Completed - 1/525 Round Two Lindberg repop of T2A tanker done as USS MATTAPONI, USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa Dec 1942, USS Yorktown 1/700 Trumpeter 1943. In The Yards - USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa 1945, USS ESSEX 1/700 Dragon 1944, USS ESSEX 1/700 Trumpeter 1945, USS ESSEX 1/540 Revell (vintage) 1962, USS ESSEX 1/350 Trumpeter 1942, USS ESSEX LHD-2 as commissioned, converted from USS Wasp kit Gallery Models. Plus 35 other plastic and wood ship kits.

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  • From: Greenville, NC
Posted by jtilley on Saturday, October 3, 2015 10:31 AM

You had to chase her around the birdbath? What's your birdbath built for? Bald eagles? Albatroses? Pterodactyls?

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

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  • From: Wyoming Michigan
Posted by ejhammer on Saturday, October 3, 2015 10:59 AM

jtilley

You had to chase her around the birdbath? What's your birdbath built for? Bald eagles? Albatroses? Pterodactyls?

 

About 36" diameter X 3" deep. It was very breezy though, and poor flattie just wouldn't sit still for a proper picture.

Have had a peregrin falcon washing up there though.

EJ

Completed - 1/525 Round Two Lindberg repop of T2A tanker done as USS MATTAPONI, USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa Dec 1942, USS Yorktown 1/700 Trumpeter 1943. In The Yards - USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa 1945, USS ESSEX 1/700 Dragon 1944, USS ESSEX 1/700 Trumpeter 1945, USS ESSEX 1/540 Revell (vintage) 1962, USS ESSEX 1/350 Trumpeter 1942, USS ESSEX LHD-2 as commissioned, converted from USS Wasp kit Gallery Models. Plus 35 other plastic and wood ship kits.

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  • From: Wyoming Michigan
Posted by ejhammer on Saturday, October 3, 2015 3:33 PM

JT - Thanks for your input. Do you know of any books on rigging small sailing boats? Most everything I have found is for schooners and larger vessels.

I so thouroughly enjoy building the small working boats and their history and would like to know more.

 

EJ

Completed - 1/525 Round Two Lindberg repop of T2A tanker done as USS MATTAPONI, USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa Dec 1942, USS Yorktown 1/700 Trumpeter 1943. In The Yards - USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa 1945, USS ESSEX 1/700 Dragon 1944, USS ESSEX 1/700 Trumpeter 1945, USS ESSEX 1/540 Revell (vintage) 1962, USS ESSEX 1/350 Trumpeter 1942, USS ESSEX LHD-2 as commissioned, converted from USS Wasp kit Gallery Models. Plus 35 other plastic and wood ship kits.

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