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  • From: Greenville, NC
Posted by jtilley on Sunday, July 12, 2015 10:07 AM

Neat idea. The irony is that an overturned candle started the fire that sank the ship.

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

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Posted by over47 on Tuesday, July 14, 2015 3:02 PM

Hi,

the light bulb looks incandescent.  LED would be a better choice as they burn cooler.  We don't want to repeat history as the professor has stated.  Some dioramas/shadowboxes that created early on, I used bulbs that gave off just a little too much heat and over time made the figures sagged into slightly less than appealing postures.

You don't want your efforts to end up at the bottom of an aquarium.

Peter

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Converting a 74 gun Heller kit into HMS Sutherland; 1/200

Converting Bomb Ketch into HMS Harvey; 1/200

Cleaning up an Aifix lot of 54mm figures, for converting.

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, July 15, 2015 1:13 AM

Flicker. Always a subject in lighting ships. Anything 18th Century or later is oil lamps and they don't flicker. Not an issue here.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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  • From: Greenville, NC
Posted by jtilley on Wednesday, July 15, 2015 11:26 AM

Whatever lighting source you use, for heaven's sake make sure you have a way of getting at it when the model's finished.

I once built a "grain of wheat" bulb into the captain's cabin of a Revell 1/96 Constitution, having been assured by the proprietor of the hobby shop that "grain of wheat bulbs don't burn out." That one did.

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, July 15, 2015 1:20 PM

I was cruising eBay for old kits the other day. Appar. Lindberg made this ship too.

I used yellow LED's in my Victory.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by cerberusjf on Friday, July 17, 2015 2:50 PM

I thought the o.p. might find this thread interesting..

www.papermodelers.com/.../9403-sovereign-seas-1637-1-96-scratch-build.html

Doris did a great job building "Sovereign of the seas" and got help from Kpt.Kl  in this thread

modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php

A lot of work in these threads, maybe helpful for you?

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  • From: Wyoming Michigan
Posted by ejhammer on Friday, July 17, 2015 4:57 PM

I put 5 grain of rice bulbs in to light the hangar deck of a 1/700 ESSEX, powered it wrong with 6v instead of 3v, burned out one bulb immediately. What a job to replace it. Left the old one in and ran a duplicate in it's place. Will use led's or that new sheet lighting next time.

EJ

Completed - 1/525 Round Two Lindberg repop of T2A tanker done as USS MATTAPONI, USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa Dec 1942, USS Yorktown 1/700 Trumpeter 1943. In The Yards - USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa 1945, USS ESSEX 1/700 Dragon 1944, USS ESSEX 1/700 Trumpeter 1945, USS ESSEX 1/540 Revell (vintage) 1962, USS ESSEX 1/350 Trumpeter 1942, USS ESSEX LHD-2 as commissioned, converted from USS Wasp kit Gallery Models. Plus 35 other plastic and wood ship kits.

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Posted by kpnuts on Sunday, July 19, 2015 1:48 PM

Hi all a small update on this, The transom sticks out past the gallaries on the sides and I didnt like the way Airfix just moulded them flat so I've rounded the edges and reguilded them

also the grills on the prow are not moulded all the way through so I drilled all the holes out.

and I've hacked the candle apart and reconfigured it

as yet have to figure a way to replace batteries when needed, thinking I may make it a waterline model.

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Posted by GMorrison on Sunday, July 19, 2015 2:25 PM

An idea. Put the whole lamp assembly on the end of a stick thats painted black. Poke it in there.

I designed a building that had a spire on top, with an FAA mandated red light.

How to change the lightbulb.

I had a steeplejack come in, he sez "either I go get it or it comes down to me. "

So we put it on a halyard arrangement.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Monday, July 20, 2015 8:38 AM

GM,

Lindbergh still does make this ship as "Blackbeard Pirate Ship".  It is smaller than the Airfix kit but does have the wood grain molded onto the hull sides.  Lindbergh also has the old solid plastic preformed sails molded onto the yards.  It's not a bad kit by any means (at least the gun ports are opened) but the cannon barrels are molded onto strips in rows to project out of the ports. And, of course, the molded shrouds and ratlines are junk.

Other kits include the Wappen von Hamburg as the "Captain Kidd" pirate ship, La Flore and the "Captain Kidd" pirate ship, and the Saint Louis as the Captain Harry Morgan pirate ship.  I don't know if Lindbergh ever released the Gouda as one in this series.

These kits are not bad at all. Some even have the entire gun decks. They can be built into nice representations of the original ships if you scrap the pirate flags and name plates.

Oh well, I hope that I helped!

Bill

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Posted by kpnuts on Wednesday, July 22, 2015 12:01 PM

Hi all here is another update on her 

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  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Thursday, July 23, 2015 10:39 AM

I love what you did with the lights!

Bill

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Posted by kpnuts on Sunday, July 26, 2015 11:07 AM

Hi all here is another update on this lovely little kit, it really is a joy to build.

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Posted by steve5 on Monday, July 27, 2015 4:42 AM

I'm really enjoying this build kpnuts ,

 

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Posted by kpnuts on Monday, July 27, 2015 2:00 PM

Hi all here is tonights update

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Posted by kpnuts on Wednesday, July 29, 2015 2:33 PM

Hi all here is tonights update, I've tried to do the cannon anchors and the ammo boxes.

also tried an experiment with the vac formed sails

which looks most realistic

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Posted by kpnuts on Sunday, August 9, 2015 12:40 PM

Hi all here is an update on this one. All the guns in place (still got to tie some down) all the closed gunports glued in.

 

 

 

I've discovered that the slots in the grating for the bowsprit tie downs are not there so had to make them.

 

 

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Posted by kpnuts on Tuesday, August 11, 2015 2:16 PM

Hi all made a start on the water effects.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by kpnuts on Friday, August 14, 2015 3:07 PM

Hi all here is tonights update

 

 

 

 

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Posted by kpnuts on Sunday, August 16, 2015 12:30 PM

Hi all here is a little update on this

 

 

 

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  • From: Greenville, NC
Posted by jtilley on Sunday, August 16, 2015 3:08 PM

This is going to be a spectacular model. I admit I had some initial reservations about the way you were doing the "sea," but now it looks great. It has much of the character and color of the old master seventeenth-century marine painters - just right for this particular model. The various "waves" look almost like the brush strokes in a Van de Velde painting.

Personally I don't like vacuum-formed plastic sails, but I like what you've done with this set. Again, it's consistent with the character of the rest of the model.

With, I'm afraid, one exception. This is the sort of thing that you'd probably catch yourself if you weren't so close to the project. Sometimes a fresh pair of eyes picks up things that the modeler doesn't.

The ship is making quite a few knots in a choppy sea, creating a massive bow wave and leaving quite a wake. The wind is obviously blowing pretty briskly to kick up such a sea. And the ship is moving pretty fast. But Airfix molded those sails as though they're almost becalmed, with just a breath of air catching their bellies.

There are several obvious solutions, the best of which might be to use the vacform sails as patterns for a scratchbuilt set that's being really blown in the wind. (Given the state of the sea in the base, I think she'd look natural with only the foresail, fore topsail, main topsail, and spritsail set - and the others furled.) I've never tried it myself (my personal preference is for furled sails), but I suspect a convincing set of sails could be made out of artist's vellum paper.

Whether you do something about this is, of course, entirely up to you. I have no idea how many viewers of your model would catch the problem. But I strongly suspect you would  have - without my help - when you started setting those sails.

Since I'm alread being rude, I wonder if I might make another, much smaller suggestion. The title of this thread has a conspicuous typographical error in it (the sort I make frequently). The name of the ship is, of course, Royal Sovereign - or better yet (as I mentioned early in the thread) Sovereign of the Seas. The goof could be fixed in a few seconds, but the only person who can do it is the post's originator.

Again, this is going to be a great model. Do keep us posted.

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

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Posted by kpnuts on Monday, August 17, 2015 12:40 AM

Thanks for the comments, you give me more credit than I deserve, I hope I do your faith justice.

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Posted by hpiguy on Tuesday, August 18, 2015 11:48 AM

What a beauty. Glad I came across this thread.

I'm also glad Round2 is still pushing out these kits under the Lindberg name. In fact they are reissuing some in new boxes (with of course pirate names) but nonetheless we can get our hands on them easily and build.

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Posted by kpnuts on Thursday, August 20, 2015 1:49 PM

Hi all well the amati Loom A Line is total rubbish, the airfix doodah is brill though, so that is 10 quid down the drain, the airfix whatsit was free with the Wasa.

 

 

 

 

Rigging is deffinitely not my thing, I am thinking maybe take the top mast off just leave the lower masts and have it as its having a refit, don't know 

 

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Posted by kpnuts on Saturday, August 22, 2015 12:08 PM

Hi all well I've decided to plug away at the rigging and here's where I am now, I've discovered I can do more than one set at a time with this thingy, thus saving loads of thread.

 

 

 

 

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  • From: Jacksonville, Florida
Posted by Vagabond_Astronomer on Monday, August 24, 2015 9:03 PM

Looking forward to seeing this bird upon completion. Great work so far.

Cheers,

Robert

"I have loved the stars too dearly to be fearful of the night..."
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Posted by kpnuts on Wednesday, August 26, 2015 3:19 PM

Well I know it's not finished but it's sold, my boss's husband came round to show me his car (some little horrors standing on a bridge lobbed a rock as he drove under and stoved in his drivers pillar and windscreen (the cars only a fortnight old £90,000 worth) he spied it and the Reale and said the Reale was too big for his new seaside house but he would buy the sovriegn.

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Posted by kpnuts on Thursday, August 27, 2015 4:32 PM

Hi all well now its going to be paid for I thought I better make more of an effort to finish it.

 

 

 

 

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Thursday, August 27, 2015 11:12 PM

One of the things the makers of those loom-a-line  never tell you is that, if you make the shrouds in pairs , which are then seized to mke an eye, you have to do that before the top masts are afixed.

If a body tries to tie the shorouds across the  cheeks is that the thread piles up in the gap in an unrealistic way.  Which leaves only the alternative of make tiny eye siezings either one shroud at a time, or spanning port & starboard shouds around the mast.  Neither is particularly easy.

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Posted by kpnuts on Sunday, August 30, 2015 12:47 PM

Hi all a little update on this one, I've done the anchors and dirtied up the flag a bit as it was pointed out it was a bit clean compared to the sail.

 

 

 

 

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