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CV-63 USS Kitty HaWK
Posted by pathvet9 on Thursday, September 29, 2016 11:06 AM

HELLO - I AM BUILDING THE 1:800 ACADEMY KITTY HAWK FOR A FRIEND AND AM TRYING TO GET THE HULL COLOR CORRECT.

IT CALLS FOR "AIRCRAFT GRAY" AND I AM THINKING EITHER FS 36495 OR 36473. I HAVE LOOKED AT LOTS OF CONVERSION CHARTS BUT CANNOT FIND A MATCH WITH TAMIYA, TESTORS, VALLEJO, HUMBROL, ETC. 

I KEEP TRYING TO LOAD THE "ULTIMATE MODEL PAINT CONVERSION CHART" BUT MY BROWSER CANNOT FIND IT. IS IT STILL AVAILABLE?

WHAT P[AINT SHOULD I USE? PREFER NOT TO MIX COLORS. THANKS.  Indifferent

Cheers, Jake

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  • From: Willamette Valley, Oregon
Posted by goldhammer on Thursday, September 29, 2016 5:50 PM

Jake- I started a thread on "Kitty Hawk questions", should be at the bottom of first page or top of second page here.  Surface_Line made some suggestions on colors for her, as I am going to be doing a build for a friend's widow of the KH.  He was a Phantom crew chief for VF114 in 71-72.

Might be a help, and he added a link for a lot of pics from NavSource.

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Posted by pathvet9 on Thursday, September 29, 2016 7:02 PM

Goldhammer - great picture for your avatar! Oops, I guess I forgot to check for prior post topics. Thanks for letting me know!   Embarrassed

Cheers, Jake

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Posted by pathvet9 on Thursday, September 29, 2016 7:08 PM
I looked but could not find the link. Could you possibly post it here?

Cheers, Jake

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Posted by Surface_Line on Thursday, September 29, 2016 11:06 PM

Hi,

Here is what I wrote earlier:

The ship was painted Haze Gray.  In full scale, that is Federal Standard #26270, marketed as Neutral Gray by Modelmaster.  I suggest that for such a small model that color looks too dark and you would do better with Modelmaster Dark Ghost Gray. 

The masts and radar antennas and the very top of the stack was black.

Flight deck was very dark, and it weathered quickly. Do not paint it black.  Modelmaster Engine Gray is a very very dark shade that is good for a flight deck.

Forget the reference on the instructions for "aircraft gray".  That is neither fish nor fowl.  Good luck on your project.

Rick

pathvet9
I looked but could not find the link. Could you possibly post it here?
 

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Posted by goldhammer on Friday, September 30, 2016 8:14 AM

Thanks, I formed a 4x4 club called Wolfpack 4x4's, named that because of location and that the BLM Advisory Council I'm on was working on a wolf recovery plan in Oregon at the time.  We also tought our Samoyed to "smile pretty" like that.

Link:

http://www.navsource.org/archives/02/63htm

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Posted by warshipguy on Friday, September 30, 2016 8:23 AM

Don't forget that the port side of the islands on conventional carriers were painted black at some point in their careers. The modeler needs to pay attention to the time frame he wishes to depict for that paint scheme.

Bill

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Posted by pathvet9 on Friday, September 30, 2016 9:00 AM
Thank you Rick. I had been wondering what "haze gray" was.

Cheers, Jake

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Posted by pathvet9 on Friday, September 30, 2016 9:03 AM

Billl -thanks for that tidbit. I am not very familiar with carriers and have not seen thaqt depicted. Could you possibly show an example? And what time frame?  Bow Down

warshipguy

Don't forget that the port side of the islands on conventional carriers were painted black at some point in their careers. The modeler needs to pay attention to the time frame he wishes to depict for that paint scheme.

Bill

 

Cheers, Jake

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Posted by warshipguy on Friday, September 30, 2016 10:46 AM

Jake,

I will check that information after I get home from work this evening.

Bill

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Posted by pathvet9 on Friday, September 30, 2016 12:17 PM

Rick - I looked more closely at what I have in stock. Using the Ultimate Conversion Chart, "aircraft gray" comes up as FS36473 or MM1731 (aircraft gray), or XF20 (Tamiya medium gray). The latter looks too brownish to me. These grays all get to looking alike in the neutral, ghost gray, etc. series.  I have light ghost gray but not dark, soI will compare again at my LHS. Thanks.   Bow Down

Hi,

Here is what I wrote earlier:

The ship was painted Haze Gray.  In full scale, that is Federal Standard #26270, marketed as Neutral Gray by Modelmaster.  I suggest that for such a small model that color looks too dark and you would do better with Modelmaster Dark Ghost Gray. 

The masts and radar antennas and the very top of the stack was black.

Flight deck was very dark, and it weathered quickly. Do not paint it black.  Modelmaster Engine Gray is a very very dark shade that is good for a flight deck.

Forget the reference on the instructions for "aircraft gray".  That is neither fish nor fowl.  Good luck on your project.

Rick

 
 
 

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Cheers, Jake

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Posted by goldhammer on Friday, September 30, 2016 2:33 PM

How about MM "Ocean Gray" ?  IIRC it is a little lighter than the Haze.

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Posted by pathvet9 on Friday, September 30, 2016 7:52 PM

Well, I looked at acrylis semigloss ocean gray and it looks a little blue to me?? Whistling

 

[How about MM "Ocean Gray" ?  IIRC it is a little lighter than the Haze.

 

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Cheers, Jake

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