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Posted by steve5 on Wednesday, April 11, 2018 12:28 AM

mike , I apologize mate , I just know you study thing's better than my slap dash approach .

the bloke I am trying to imitate , michael , is nearly finished his beautiful model , and is hopefully going to share some of his photo's , of the lateen rigging , for me . which will be a god send . especially the dimension's of the yard .

 

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  • From: Salem, Oregon
Posted by 1943Mike on Wednesday, April 11, 2018 11:45 AM

Steve,

Certainly no need to apologize.

I just wanted you to know that I'm not in any way, shape, or form a guy who can speak knowledgeably about ships or ship rigging. I just grope around and try to find books that I hope will help me. BTW, even if Michael gives you all the information you need to get past the lateen yard and rigging, the book you've ordered may still come in handy both for the remainder of the rigging you have to do and for other ship kits you might get around to - assuming they're ships to which the title of the book refers.

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

Hector Berlioz

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Posted by steve5 on Saturday, April 14, 2018 1:03 AM

got some old PE and some tube styrene ,made a rudder hinge , look's alright to me , now to have a proper go .

 

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Posted by Michael D. on Saturday, April 14, 2018 9:34 AM

Looks good Steve Yes, do you plan on adding the 2 additional gun chaser ports?

 

Michael D.

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Posted by steve5 on Sunday, April 15, 2018 4:55 AM

at this stage no michael , I have spent way too long on the stern ,didn't realise my skill's were not quite there for the balconies , nearly lost interest in the build , later on who know's

steve5

 

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Posted by steve5 on Monday, April 16, 2018 9:49 PM

book arrived today , lot's of pic's , seem's easy to read should be a very good asset , thank's for the tip mike .

 

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  • From: Salem, Oregon
Posted by 1943Mike on Tuesday, April 17, 2018 11:19 AM

Steve, you're quite welcome. I just hope it turns out to have been the kind of expensive purchase that pays for itself in saved time and a bounty of information.

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

Hector Berlioz

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  • From: Chicago suburbs
Posted by Luvspinball on Tuesday, April 17, 2018 12:17 PM

Mike,

I also took your advice and purchased the book.  I got mine off eBay from the Seattle Goodwill, so 100% of the proceeds goes to them.  Thanks again for the advice.  I look forward to reading it.

Bob

Bob Frysztak

Luvspinball

Current builds:  Revell 1/96 USS Constitution with extensive scratch building

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Posted by steve5 on Saturday, April 21, 2018 1:20 AM

the rudder is dry fitted , doesn't look too bad , now to find a suitable sized chain .

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Saturday, April 21, 2018 8:06 AM

Hey Steve, it is looking gorgeous. You are doing some really nice detailing. And the rudder  looks good!

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Posted by steve5 on Saturday, April 21, 2018 3:57 PM

cheer's steve , nice to know your watching mate .

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Saturday, April 21, 2018 5:56 PM

steve5

cheer's steve , nice to know your watching mate .

 

For sure I am. I love what you are doing. Keep up the good work!

Yes

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Posted by Michael D. on Saturday, April 21, 2018 8:59 PM

Looks beautiful Steve, well done Sir.Yes

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  • From: Salem, Oregon
Posted by 1943Mike on Saturday, April 21, 2018 11:27 PM

Steve,

Your build is developing beautifully. I commend you for your extra work and detailing. It's paying off. I'll certainly be along for the ride until she's your commissioned HMS Victory.

As a note to Bob ...

With regard to James Lees' book "The Masting and Rigging of English Ships of War  1625-1860". As I told Steve, it was John Tilley (I really miss his posts!) having mentioned that book several times that motivated me to have it in my library.

You already know from its title that it won't necessarily help you to the nth degree when building your USS Constitution but it certainly should be of help for any English sailing ships of war. I suppose in modeling terms as far as kits go it would be HMS Vicory, and ? But, after having read your bio, I suppose it should be fine reference material if you plan to build an English ship of war from scratch.

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

Hector Berlioz

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Posted by steve5 on Saturday, April 21, 2018 11:57 PM

steve , mike , michael , thank's for the nice word's . it's appreciated .

michael , I noticed you have a line tied to the chain end's , like the french used to do . could you tell me where you tie it off too please mate .

 

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Posted by Michael D. on Sunday, April 22, 2018 10:19 AM

Hi Steve,

The rope goes through the Mizzen channel behind the 3rd deadeye from aft close to the side and up to the poop deck where it's belayed to a cleat.

 

Michael D.

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Posted by rwiederrich on Wednesday, April 25, 2018 7:57 AM

Wonderful work Steve..and magnificent modification of the stern.  It's a rare thing to be able to make the mods you want in a current model to replicate the era you are seeking.  I do that all the time in my clippers.  Very good job.

Rob

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  • From: Western No. Carolina
Posted by gene1 on Wednesday, April 25, 2018 9:25 AM

Steve, you do a beautiful job on all your ships & riverboats. I am so glad to hear you say you don't know much about boats. I am the same way & don't like the ocean, even tho I lived next to it for 40 years. As soon as I could get away from it I moved to the side of a mountain where there are no floods or hurricanes. I have always loved to build ship models tho.I have built a bunch too.

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Posted by steve5 on Wednesday, April 25, 2018 4:44 PM

cheer's rob , I'm going to try a wooden build one day , don't think I will emulate any of your's , but that's the fun of it .

gene , I'm the other way , mostly all our major cities are next to the ocean . one day I might be able to build as neat as you .

 

 

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  • From: Western No. Carolina
Posted by gene1 on Wednesday, April 25, 2018 6:22 PM

Steve, you have me beat so many times & the only thing I do is build fast everyone thinks. I don't mean to, I just sit and scrape & sand each piece like everyone.  I just pick easy ships to build. I went thru 1000 hour wooden ships 35 years ago. Loved them.

    I am about to post my Imai Spanish Galleon, now & it is neat & easy, except for all those hull decorations. It does look neat tho.  I have the hull done & the sails decaled. I really sweated those big sail decals, because they were old & made the ship. I coated them with Microscale decal film before I put them on & it is great. 

   If you haven't got one , get one because it might now be my favorite model. It is really pretty with all the hull detail color.

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Posted by steve5 on Sunday, May 6, 2018 6:06 PM

started on the bow , sadly I don't have michael's sculpting ability , so the decoration's will be slightly different , still trying to sculpt the main figure head [sigh] . found some brass strip , I don't think it look's too bad .

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, May 6, 2018 10:26 PM

Steve, what you have done so far looks gorgeous! Keep your head high, you are doing great!

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Posted by steve5 on Monday, May 7, 2018 12:40 AM

thank's steve mate , I happen to spy these tiny moustashe sticker's , my grandkid's left lying around . hope they don't mind Whistling it shouldn't look as stark , with all the rigging around it .

 

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Posted by Michael D. on Monday, May 7, 2018 7:37 AM

Steve I'm sure they would be proud to have them as part of Grandpa's build, they look great as with the rest of your build mate. The amount of modifications nesessary for this conversion is a lot work and that in it's self is worth kudo's and a few raised glasses on what you've accomplished so far Steve.YesBeer

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Posted by steve5 on Saturday, May 12, 2018 10:38 PM

made the cross member's for the boat's

 

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Posted by steve5 on Sunday, May 13, 2018 4:50 AM

noticed michaelD built up the stern on his beautiful build , made sense to me , so I'm  copy cat . Confused

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, May 13, 2018 10:14 AM

steve5

noticed michaelD built up the stern on his beautiful build , made sense to me , so I'm  copy cat . Confused

 

Your project is looking really cool, Steve. That ship is begging for interior lighting.

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Posted by steve5 on Sunday, May 13, 2018 5:02 PM

Bakster

 

 
steve5

noticed michaelD built up the stern on his beautiful build , made sense to me , so I'm  copy cat . Confused

 

 

 

Your project is looking really cool, Steve. That ship is begging for interior lighting.

 

 

thanks steve . At the beginning  i might have  thought about it  . But I don't have enough  hair left as it is now to  do that mate LOL

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, May 13, 2018 6:23 PM

Lol. I hear you, and I know the feeling. Hang in there on this. You are doing fantastic. I wish I had your ship knowledge and skills. I would love to build a masted ship. Maybe one day. For now, I will enjoy yours.

Yes

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Posted by steve5 on Tuesday, May 15, 2018 4:17 AM

had a look at the boat's in place , I thought i would have been on the rigging by now , but I forgot how many small bit's and piece's their are on this boat , with the alteration's I'm way behind Bang Head

 

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