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Building an Ethan Allen sub with interior.

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  • Member since
    February, 2016
  • From: Western No. Carolina
Building an Ethan Allen sub with interior.
Posted by gene1 on Sunday, February 10, 2019 9:40 PM

 nino got me interested in this model with pictures of a finished kit. I needed a break on the Victory & built this . It has been fun & interesting. I got interior colors from Bill, warshipguy, & I hope I did it close to right.

  Ther have been some really nice models of this already & I got a lot of ideas from them. They helped a lot. Here are some pictures.

I also have a George Washinton that I am going to do closed because it does not have all the parts.

This last picture is the 1/200 Ethan Allen with a Nicnimo IXC 1/200 unfinished to show the size difference.

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    February, 2016
  • From: Western No. Carolina
Posted by gene1 on Sunday, February 10, 2019 9:51 PM

I had to add this because I spent 5 days doing the IXC Nichimo. It really is a beautiful little model.

Niether one is mounted on a base yet & I am going to do a Riich 1/200 1944 USS Gato to complete the 3 set.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Sunday, February 10, 2019 10:07 PM

Nice job, is it the old Renwal kit?

Steve

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  • From: Western No. Carolina
Posted by gene1 on Sunday, February 10, 2019 10:15 PM

Yes Stev e, nino gave Bill & I each one. Bill's will be better & more accurate because he spent 3 years on her, & is a better modeler.

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Posted by steve5 on Sunday, February 10, 2019 11:55 PM

very nice gene , interesting kit with all the cut away's .

 

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  • From: brisbane australia
Posted by surfsup on Monday, February 11, 2019 6:58 PM

Very well done my Friend.....Cheers Mark

If i was your wife, i'd poison your tea! If Iwas your husband, I would drink it! WINSTON CHURCHILL
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  • From: Philadelphia Pa
Posted by Nino on Monday, February 11, 2019 7:14 PM

Gene,  The colors turned out Terrific... and as Accurate as can be without have color Pics of each area of the Ethan Allen. The Pea-Green sure looks authentic from the few photo's I have seen.   

Many "Builds"/Postings of this kit have been done over the years but I like yours best with the partial cut-away of the control room deck to show more of the crews mess and Bunking ("missile control center"?).

And thank you for the pre-painted kit.  Still working on moving my Hobby area so it will take some time for me to finish painting and assembling it.

So,  did you install the spring to fire the Polaris missile?

   Nino

 

P.S.  When you get that Bronco 1/200 Russian Kilo sub built, You must post a picture of it next to SSBN-608.

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  • From: Western No. Carolina
Posted by gene1 on Monday, February 11, 2019 9:14 PM

  Jim, I will show all 4 together, the Ethan Allen, the Russian Kilo, the U Boat IXC & the USS Gato. That will be 2 cold war enemies & to WW2 enemies. Seems in my long lifetime nobody ever liked anybody else. All are in 1/200 . What abig difference in size even then. 

    I got the idea of that cut back deck from, I believe, Phillip !. His is a beautiful build & on FSM.

                  Thank you for the Russian Sub, Bronco does a beautiful kit.

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Posted by steve5 on Monday, February 11, 2019 9:38 PM

Gene , would you have any photos of how you did the cut aways mate .

PS .... Thanks for the nice words my friend

 

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Posted by scottrc on Tuesday, February 12, 2019 8:57 AM

Gene,

Your builds are so clean and precise.  Very well done.  

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  • From: Western No. Carolina
Posted by gene1 on Tuesday, February 12, 2019 9:18 AM

Thanks to all of you for the compliments. 

Steve, this picture I believe shows how I did the cut. I started & went in & out where the desk is & in again & cut a little off the partition outside the door & then in again & out before the next partition. Look at Phillip 1's build, he did it a little differently. His is a beautiful build of this sub. I cut it rough with my  Foredom drill & then used a sanding wheel to smooth it. Just be careful.

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  • From: Western No. Carolina
Posted by gene1 on Tuesday, February 12, 2019 9:34 AM

Steve, here is another that might show it better.

I have another of this kit Revell 1/144 VIIC 41.  I built a bunch of subs about 6 years ago & loved them. I told a guy on the forum about your

beautiful R E Lee

VIIC 41 with a wooden deck.

My 36' Revell VIIC

 

 

 

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, February 12, 2019 10:48 AM

A post of Dr. Tilley's in 2009.

"Dr. Thomas Graham's fine book, Remembering Revell Model Kits,contains (pp. 78-79) a most interesting story about the great Rickover controversy:

"For Revell's ship model line, the decade of the 1960s began with a rousing national controvesy over one of Revell's new models.  On June 19, 1961, the front page of the New York Times carried a photo of Revell's Polaris guided missile submarine U.S.S. George Washingtonalong with a story revealing secret testimony given by Admiral Hyman Rickover, father of the nuclear submarine.  'If I were a Russian,' declared the admiral, 'I would be most grateful to the United States for its generosity in supplying such information for $2.98.' (Actually it was cheaper:  $1.98.)  Rickover claimed top secret data had been leaked to a hobby company.  He did not mention the name of the company, and both Revell and Renwall had Polaris subs in their catalogs - but the media spotlight focused on Revell....

"When Henry Blankfort [Revell's vice president for public relations] read the story he immediately recognized this as a marvelous opportunity for some free publicity.  He contacted the press and told them Lew Glaser, President of Revell, would be available to answer questions at his home the following day.  Then he phoned Lew.  'I'm going to tell you what to do,' he said, 'and then I'm going to disappear.'  Blankfort did not want the old allegations of his supposed Communist past to muddy-up the story.  When the media men arrived at the Glaser household, Lew dived into the backyard pool with a model of the Polaris sub and surfaced blowing bubbles....A photo of the episode appeared in the next day's Los Angeles Times and later as the picture of the week in Life.  [It's reproduced in the book - and it's pretty funny.]  The Glasers were invited to appear on radio and TV for interviews.

"Lew found himself forced into the awkward position of arguing for the inaccuracy of a Revell model.  He pointed out that Revell got one big item wrong, giving the Polaris sub only eight missile launch tubes, rather than the actual sixteen.  (An error corrected in later issues of the kit.)  Glaser avowed that Revell had received no secret information, but had simply gleaned facts from trade and technical journals 'available to anyone who wants to take the time and trouble to look them up.' (Los Angeles Times, June 19, 1961, 1.) 

"Nationally syndicated columnist Walter Winchell picked up the trail of the controversy and someone fed him material for one of his columns in which he called Lew Glaser a Trotskyite and denounced Blankfort for taking the Fifth Amendment during the Congressional Un-American Activities hearings of the early 'fifties.

"The boys in the model shop at Revell found all this very amusing.  They had, of course, researched the model just as Glaser said, piecing together data on the submarine from whatever sources they could find.  One of the model's creators, Englishman Ron Campbell, recalled that the craftsmen in the model shop had no idea what kind of motor the sub had, so he just gave it a three-stage turbine like those he had once manufactured in his previous job back in Britain.

"In the end Royle Glaser [the president's wife] pronounced it "the best piece of PR we ever had, thanks to Admiral Rickover and Henry Blankfort.  We sold a jillion of the sub models because they were already in the stores."".

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, February 12, 2019 10:54 AM

That build is a treasure. A true classic. 

A consideration the modeler should make with a cut away sub that's intended to be accurate is the difference in size between the outer hull and the pressure hull.

These modern subs are a set of concentric cylinders, the pressure hull a number of feet smaller all the way around than the outer hull.

You did a swell job with this, Gene.

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  • From: Western No. Carolina
Posted by gene1 on Tuesday, February 12, 2019 5:40 PM

Bill, Thanks for the compliment. I took a break from the Victory with the Renwal sub & did enjoy it. Then the little Nichimo IXC sub came in the mail & lured me again to build it. I have a Riich 1/200 Gato coming from Austrailia & that could lure me again before I get back on the Victory. Then nino,Jim, sent me a Bronco Kilo in 1/200  to go with the other 3 1/200.  I do love subs because they are easy & fun to build, but I wouldn't have the nerve to get on one.  Leave that to warshipguy. I never minded airplanes because you could jump  out of them, try that at 300' down.  

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