Interesting build, It looks more like a sub than a torpedo boat..... Although, I guess that what a sub is.

Yeah, the hull is most definitely sub-shaped.  It's got crazy looking fore and aft hydroplanes.  I wonder how well the torpedo would clear the forward vanes when it was launched under combat conditions?

pf4mfu[/url]Schertel-05 by N. T. Izumi, on Flickr:600:0]

The hydrovanes that are made up of top/bottom pieces will need thinning prior to gluing, normal stuff for a limited run kit.  The one piece vanes just need some cleanup and they will be fine as is.

I was able to squeeze in a bit of bench time over the Thanksgiving weekend.  Here is the model taped together, and what a weird looking model it is going to be!  The hydrovanes make it look more like a spaceship than a torpedo boat/sub.

pWzVQb[/url]Schertel-011 by N. T. Izumi, on Flickr:600:0]

pWGowK[/url]Schertel-012 by N. T. Izumi, on Flickr:600:0]

qdXMyT[/url]Schertel-013 by N. T. Izumi, on Flickr:600:0]

Being a limited run kit, there are no locator pins or guides, so some must be added to keep everything in line.  I added some angle strip to hold the three part torpedo recess to the hull.

qbZhW1[/url]Schertel-03 by N. T. Izumi, on Flickr:600:0]

The cockpit is made up of only a bulkhead and seat.  The floor is one of the torpedo recess segments.  Not much will be seen unless the hood is left open, so I'll just give it a lick of white for the interior and black/brown for the seat cushions.

pf4mFu[/url]Schertel-04 by N. T. Izumi, on Flickr:600:0]

G

Was this a concept vessel, or one the Germans actually constructed a prototype of like the Panzer VIII Maus?

Like you said, it looks like a spaceship.....the Botany Bay from Star Trek perhaps.

Cool build.

Modelcrazy,

I believe the Schertel craft was only a concept.  I can't see the torpedo having a good chance of missing the forward hydrovanes during an attack.  The Germans did experiment with hydrofoils, but I think they were more mundane looking.

I thought about the Botany Bay too when I first looked at the taped together model!

Slowly getting to the point where the hull halves can be joined.  I added plastic strip to provide some alignment and additional gluing surface for the poorly fitting parts.  The rear hull will need clamping to match the front.  Still, it's not a serious problem.

q5fgq4[/url]Schertel-14 by N. T. Izumi, on Flickr:600:0]

qmFyAr[/url]Schertel-15 by N. T. Izumi, on Flickr:600:0] 

The hydrovanes were tricky to align.  I had to break off and reset the front vanes twice to get things halfway decent.  It's not 100% perfect, but it will do.  Lots of trimming/filling/sanding will follow.

q58L2h[/url]Schertel-17 by N. T. Izumi, on Flickr:600:0]

I'm now thinking about adding a bit of extra detail to liven things up.

It's going to look cool G-man.

Thanks Modelcrazy, I'll try not to disappoint!

I haven't addressed the small detail parts yet, and they will need a bit of work to look presentable.

pUBcF8[/url]Schertel-08 by N. T. Izumi, on Flickr:600:0]

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The PE props will need some twist, and they fortunately have stubs that can be used as mounting posts.  Gonna try to splash some white paint in the cockpit and black for the seat real soon, so I can close the hull.  Loads of filler and sanding to follow!  Things should move faster then.  Still thinking about a new stand, as the kit one is a little ugly.

Just curious. What did it turn out like?

Hey !

 I didn't know that the Germans did space ships for " Star Trek " ?

Hey !

 I know this is two years old . Did you finish the vessel ?  I have a Mikr - Mir kit too . It's a small freighter reminiscent of the " Shell Welder ". I picked it up at a flea market in Arizona when I went through there in the R.V.

Hey guys, thanks for looking in!  Unfortunately the kit is still not finished.  But - it did move out of the Closet of Doom just last week!  The lion's share of work filling and sanding this putty monster is nearing an end.  I did some additional work since my last post, like make some stuff for the sail (radio antenna, D/F loop, and snorkel type air intake).  The kit's torpedo looked kind of sad so I was planning on pinching one from an Italeri Biber.  Interesting that Mikro-Mir appears to have tried to copy the Italeri torpedo surface details as they match really well.

https://flic.kr/p/yVvCqS][/url]Schertel-027 by N.T. Izumi, on Flickr

As I am seriously lagging in the sub warfare GB, I pulled this kit and Bronco's Seehund out to see if I could finish one.  The Seehund wins as its level of detail puts the Schertel to shame.  I'll get the Schertel up to speed as soon as I can.  Promise!

https://flic.kr/p/WryLC3][/url]Seehund-02 by N.T. Izumi, on Flickr

Hmmm;

 Me likum widdle biddy oooh boats . Me can do mine now ? Seriously , that's an unusual vessel , as is the Biber . Can you imagine the volatility if they had used those designs on the bigger attack boats ?

That hydroplane sub is really interesting looking RG. I also like the Seehund you are trying to finish for the GB too. I am in the same boat with my Gato.

Oh wow G, missed this the first time around. Now that's something different! 

Necro thread!!!  But the project is not really dead - I just build very very slowly.

What brought this back from the Shelf of Doom was Aerobonus' new minisub crew figures.

https://flic.kr/p/2dQRArk][/url]Schertel-29 by N.T. Izumi, on Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/2dQRA7x][/url]Schertel-31 by N.T. Izumi, on Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/2dLiYZf][/url]Schertel-033 by N.T. Izumi, on Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/2dLiYSG][/url]Schertel-034 by N.T. Izumi, on Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/2dLiYCo][/url]Schertel-30 by N.T. Izumi, on Flickr

I find it surprising that an aftermarket company would see fit to make not one, but several figure sets for German minisubs (there's at least two other sets that feature standing crew).  But I am grateful for it, and it has provided impetus to finish this weird torpedo boat.  I have a number of other minisubs (Bieber, Hecht, and Seehund), so I may need to get more crew!

But darn it, first Amodel/Mikro Mir found a way to steal my model dreams while I sleep, and now this!  I need to go to bed wearing a tinfoil hat!  

If I were a kid today they would diagnose me as having ADHD.  Back in the day, my parents and teachers called it “ants in pants”, and the remedy was usually a slap to the head!

The model requires some small but tedious filling/sanding in unmentionable areas, which is what wore me out.  The kit was a real pig to bend and clamp together.  Hopefully the spiffy crew figure will motivate me enough to get it across the finish line.

And then one of the Chinese manufacturers will do a nice, shiny new kit that falls together!

     Micro-Mir makes about a dozen different 1/35 scale "mini" sub kits.  The German 'Schertel-Sachsenberg project is certainly the most futuristic-looking. 

     Glad you found some figures. Their facial expressions look a bit scary to me but they may be on suicide missions in those little subs so that's understandable.

     Thanks for re-opening this thread. That is some good info on the fit issues.  Many of Micro-Mir's larger subs need careful alignment of the hull too.

     Nino

Cool!  I've never seen this kit and look forward to your reveal.   

Hey , real G !

 At least it wasn't fire ants in the pants .I had been blindsided so many times and told to sit still I thought I had some Whirling Dervish genes in me . Turns it was and is A.D.H.D coupled with a permanent , since birth Restless Leg Syndrome .

    See ! We are definitely normal ! I do like that subarine .

Nino - Yeah Mikro Mir make a lot of unusual subjects.  I had my eyes on their many midget subs.  They are one of my favorite kit makers, although their builds are quite challenging.  You know, I didn't really have a close look at the Aerobonus figure faces until you mentioned their expressions.  They look all alike; it's the same guy I think!

Keavdog - Hope to have this finished this year!  The heavy work is all done, so now it's just just the little stuff.  I'll definitely be painting it in that pseudo-night fighter mottle on the box art.

Tanker-Builder - Fire ants!  No, I was not one of those hyper kids.  I just drew pictures of dinosaurs instead of doing schoolwork, and bothered the other kids.

Real G

I can't see the torpedo having a good chance of missing the forward hydrovanes during an attack.

Torpedeos lanuched with a high degree of angular precision.  This was necessary when using gyro-set angluar attacks, or just launching on bearing.

A one degree error at launch is 60 Minutes of Are (MOA).  At a hundred yards, that's just a 60" error (1 MOA ≈ 1" at 100 yard); but is 600"--50'--at a 1000.  Note that at 10,000 yards, that one degree is 6000" of error, or 500'; and that's only about half the 20,000 yard range of an average torpedo.  So, tube launching wants rather precise alignment.

Going the other way around, if the torpedo travels 60' to clear the forward hydroplanes, our putative 60 MOA at 20 yards is a mere 12", or less than the diamter to the torpedo.

Mind, doctrine had not been developed anymore than the the vessel itself had.  So, the intention might have been to not launch up on the hydroplanes.  Maybe.  Perhaps.  How they intended to balance that bad boy up on those foils is yet another topic of supposition. 

I suspect it wasn't a launch under way.

Contrary to popular thought I suppose, a lot of the smaller MTB's dumped their fish and ran away, not like a dynamic launch from a larger ship.

You sure wouldn't want to run in under the guns of anything with much more than a 0.30 mounted on the bridge.

Of interest:

http://168.144.200.155/schertel.htm

The curious would ask where the propulsion was applied.

Hydrofoils of that era often had a sort of centerboard/ keel with a prop on the back end.

Assuming the center of gravity (lateral) was down the middle, that's put in in some conflict with the torpedo.

Hey ! 

 You drew dinosaurs too? Oh Wow .That and P-51s attacking B.F.109s ! Oh ! let's not forget the spaceships !